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Seems a bit overpriced. But 11 2-1/2" drive sockets is a lot of metal. I've never seen a socket that big.
Also keep in mind the customer base for this product. We're not talking DIY, we're talking seriously heavy industrial/construction.
Also keep in mind the customer base for this product. We're not talking DIY, we're talking seriously heavy industrial/construction.
msharley
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Turbine work at the nuke plant....
dr_clyde
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Notice that they’re backordered…
Seriously though, if you’re working on something that needs 2-1/2” drive sockets, 50 grand for the tools is a drop in the bucket.
Seriously though, if you’re working on something that needs 2-1/2” drive sockets, 50 grand for the tools is a drop in the bucket.
msharley
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They already lost the blame 10mm.........
Professional Tool User
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This is a low volume production tool that is useless outside of heavy equipment, really big construction fasteners, and industrial applications. I bet Proto, Wright, and other USA made brands will also charge a small fortune for something like this. Someone has to pay for the tooling and small production batches.
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sparky 1971
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Wow! I was browsing around harryepstein.com a few days ago and saw they have some 3-1/2" drive sockets, the largest is 9-1/8 and over $5000.00. I think they are Wright, but I stumbled on them under SK. If it needs larger sockets than I have in 3/4" drive, I want nothing to do with it.
RTM
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And I assume you use an excavator to turn that puppy.
anndel
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Windmill mounting nuts for wind power generation. I think I've seem something like it when I worked at the Chevron Refinery.
Lassen Forge
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We had stuff like that in bridge construction and maintenance, tho most of the time we just had spud wrenches... and notice it's for an 11 piece SET of sockets, so yeah, if I needed those sizes everyday (like we used to) then yeah, 50 large isn't a bad price. BTW, slinking those, best better eat your wheaties... 
cvairwerks
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BTW, slinking those, best better eat your wheaties...
Prolly need the service truck crane to get the set out of the truck bed....
What a beast
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Tynee
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What a beast
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I see you had the same question I did, "Wonder what you turn that much socket with..."
3baygarage
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I was thinking of a flyer BOGO deal:
"Buy this 11pc SAE set, get the inversion table free!"
"Buy this 11pc SAE set, get the inversion table free!"
KnurledNut
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Lassen Forge
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Look at 2 1/2" on a ruler compared to a 1/2" drive, and you realize just how massive those are... yet for hat kind of work, yeah, it;s worth it.
Renegade1LI
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We do a lot of large diameter hi torque bolting in treatment plants utilizing hydraulic wrenches, most sockets that size are used with hydraulic bolting systems like these from hytorc. Once set up the tool does all the work & depending on what system you have the torque value can be preset.
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NORTON'S SHOP
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Is that the regular price or on sale price?
Under_Pressure
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Buying 2 1/2" drive sockets as an 11 piece set seems a little unusual, I don't care who you are. It's one thing to buy a set of 1/2 drive knowing you'll have some that might never get used. With this stuff it seems unlikely that you will run into an unexpected fastener size in the middle of a job and be like "damn, glad my set came with a 7 1/8" socket even though I never thought I'd use it."
dr_clyde
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It's something companies buy, not necessarily individuals. I can totally see sets like this in mining, industrial maintenance, power generation, large machine assembly or repair, things like that.
You really think places like Caterpillar are going to onsey twosey buy sockets for their crib when they can just buy a set with everything they need? Just one D9 or something can easily justify a tool set like this.
When you work with large maintenance/repair budgets and have to plan for things like downtime and shutdown repairs, it pays dividends to have the tools and supplies on the shelf ready to go. It wouldn't be a hard sell at all to a maintenance manager of a large power plant or mining operation to have this set on the shelf in the tool crib. When minutes of unplanned downtime can cost tens of thousands, 50k for a set of sockets is chump change.
RTM
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Back in the 80s in my days at a brewery, we were told each minute of unplanned downtime was more than $1000. Can't imagine those numbers nowadays.
Anyone ever drop one into the river below?We had stuff like that in bridge construction and maintenance, tho most of the time we just had spud wrenches... and notice it's for an 11 piece SET of sockets, so yeah, if I needed those sizes everyday (like we used to) then yeah, 50 large isn't a bad price. BTW, slinking those, best better eat your wheaties...
Under_Pressure
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I realize the market for sockets like these. The sizes we are talking about here go beyond what would would be used even on large construction equipment other than maybe extremely large cranes or draglines. Not that there might not be one or two extremely large hex size nuts on, say, the driveline somewhere (analogous to how automotive applications often have axle nuts that are out of proportion to everything else on the vehicle) but that would be a known and defined size, and likely would have a special service tool anyway. So I doubt you would need to keep a full set around for that.
Stuff like this would be used for extremely heavy bolted structural connections (bridges and such) and some extremely large industrial machines. Power plants are mentioned, and I suppose maybe in some rotating equipment some of these sizes are used, but the largest standard flange bolt size I'm aware of is 4" (on a 48" 900# flange which is insane and I've never seen in real life), which would use a 6 1/8" socket for a heavy hex nut. So not even into the size range of this set. It would be different if we were talking 1 1/2" drive, but 2 1/2" drive is used on only the most extreme of the extreme applications, and the sizes in this set are the biggest sizes for even 2 1/2" drive. Not sure about everyone else, but 8" is the biggest Proto makes for sure.
All that being said, I suppose it is true that if you are in a business that uses equipment which requires sockets in this ballpark on even a rare occasion, that equipment is supporting operations that cost tens of thousands of dollars per hour. So convincing management to spend $50k to reduce extra downtime risk (due to not having a tool) by even a tiny amount is not that hard.
dr_clyde
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Let me put it as simply as I know how.
If you own or maintain equipment that uses fasteners or needs tools of this size, the 50k the set costs is miniscule in comparison to the machine or operation. You just buy the set at that point.
A brand new D9 bulldozer (which is probably too small for these) costs in excess of $900,000 new. Chances are real good if you are buying a brand new D9 you are running other machines of similar size and quality. Easily an operation in the millions of dollars. The purchasing agent will just buy the set for the crib vs pick and choose multiple line items.
A mining operation in the Athabasca tar sands of Alberta is running a fleet of Cat 797 haul trucks, some of the largest trucks in the world. Just ONE tire on one of those costs $42,500. These are the kinds of operations that buy these socket sets.
joel63
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And a lot of rest.We had stuff like that in bridge construction and maintenance, tho most of the time we just had spud wrenches... and notice it's for an 11 piece SET of sockets, so yeah, if I needed those sizes everyday (like we used to) then yeah, 50 large isn't a bad price. BTW, slinking those, best better eat your wheaties...
KnurledNut
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I did some work at a mine that had their own on-site stocked Caterpillar parts crib. They also maintained warehouses full of tools, parts, hardware, equipment and consumables. Backup machinery was ready to go. IIRC, a single unit (just one of many) lost at least $20k/hr when idled. They could get almost anything within about 8 hours.
I never saw any 2-1/2" drive there but plenty of 3/4", 1" and some 1-1/2".
Snapped-off
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Did you get that from FB?
KnurledNut
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homemadetools forum
VolvoRyan
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What a beast
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Wow. Just look at the CFM on that.
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sparky 1971
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That's nothin'. Take a look at this bad boy. I have a 60 gallon three horse compressor and would need 34 of them to run this at 90 psi. And a 1-1/2" hose. And it weighs 600 pounds.
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B_Bimmer
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I have no conceivable use for any of this stuff, but find myself now thinking my socket set is incomplete.
jussastocklbz
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You should see how much the IR 2.5" impact is. Its got 50,000 ft lbs of torque. The bigger the toy, the bigger the price tag. That is for some serious
right there. Thats either for mining, heavy heavy equipment, big azz cranes, bridges and buildings and large marine applications. And definitely something that would be going on the company card. 6 3/4"-8" is something we all would never need. I have everything up to 2" and eventually need to atleast go to 3" to work on the equipment i work on.cvairwerks
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The wheel nut on the mains for one of our jets is 4” if I remember correctly.
iirc if a bucket goes down on an operation like that it's something like $20,000 a minute.
Lassen Forge
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We timed it - 3 1/2 seconds from the edge of the scaffolding under the SFOBB (where I worked) into San Francisco Bay below. And yes, you could see the splash, hear the "kerplunk" of the splash, and catch the holy wrath of the boss...
My first challenge of running a crew was a "disaffected employee" who hated being there, launching spud wrenches off the platform to keep from working... expecting me to blow up. Instead I said "Hmmm, we seem to have left our wrenches at the shop, guess we need to go back and do that, but hey, lets take a break before we go back"...
I then told him if he'd quit launching our expensive and somewhat unobtanuim tools I'd do what I could to pull a transfer for him... He did, so I did - I saw him 3 months later and he was happy as a clam in salt water!
BTW - nothing quite as cool as hanging out on the safety capture nets 150 feet up...
KnurledNut
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Depends on the mineral being extracted...
