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Oil Filter INSTALLER wrench

wil

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I USED to use one of those strap wrenches to remove and install oil filters
when I can access the sides of them.

With these 200x Camrys and Corollas, I've had to resort to using
THIS kind of wrench to remove the oil filters:
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So...WHAT can I use to TIGHTEN the filter that xtra 3/4 turn that the filter
manufacturer recommends? NO, this wrench only loosens! NO, I can't
tighten it THAT much with my hand!!!:confused:

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Just my opinion, but it's an educated opinion. There is no need to ever tighten a filter beyond what you can do with your bare hand.
 

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So you're one of those people who's filters I'm always fighting. Never use anything but your hand to tighten an oil filter. Run it down until the gasket contacts and add 2/3-3/4 squish for the gasket to seal. If you properly tightened the oil filter you won't need a wrench to remove it 3,000 miles later.
 
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With the Toyotas, you only have enough room to put your fingers around the filter. Not
even enough space to put the palm of my hand to get a good grip. It seems like I'm lucky
if I can even get 1/4 turn tight!
 

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Hand tight is all you need after putting a little oil on the gasket.:thumbup: However, it might be lisle but, more than one version of the pictured oil filter wrench will also tighten. Shop around if you must.
 

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I dont know what is going on. Either newer cars have a special mounting base OR, what ai think, oil filters are coming with a 'different' gasket. I really dont think my strength has varied.


I used to get like 1/2-3/4 of a turn by hand and could remove it later by hand. But now, it is quite snug at a 1/2 and some filter cans spec a full turn. I thought this was bogus and I would just install it firm, but then it weeped a little. So, I think the new filters are requiring more torque to secure them.
 

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Just my opinion, but it's an educated opinion. There is no need to ever tighten a filter beyond what you can do with your bare hand.

I have been changing oil on my vehicle, my family's and friends vehicles for almost 50 years ! Never used anything more than my bare hand to tighten a spin on filter.

Make sure your hand is a clean and oil free as possible and you won't have a problem. If you really want some "extra" grip, put a wrap of double sticky tape on it.
 

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I've also always just used my hand. This is how I was taught when I worked in a shop in high school and I've been doing it this way ever since. I've never had an issue.
 

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I use oil filter cup wrenches to install the filters, the only problem is you need a bunch of different ones.

To all the guys spouting the "You should never tighten a filter beyond finger tight!" line some of the OEM filters don't use a flat gasket and are supposed to be a little tighter than hand tight. Then there's always the ones you just can't wrap your hands around because they're in such an awkward place.
 

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Just ram a screw driver through it and give a twist... :) never tightened one with a wrench.

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I think he means he tightens it lightly with the wrench because can"t get a good grip on it, I do this with LS in chevy trucks.

I believe you are correct. My Mother's 15 Kia Soul's filter is located in what's almost like a semi circle cutout. You can only get your hand on about 50% of the outer surface.
 
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I thought the Lisle one would have taken care of both the REMOVE and INSTALL, but they are REMOVE ONLY! Anybody have a modification to this wrench so it INSTALLS too?
Else I have to buy another tool, like the end cap INSTALLERS at Advance!

My Toyotas, AND my Honda minivan, all have NO clearance to put your hand around the
filter. Access to the end of the filter only. Maybe FINGER tight (3 fingers and a thumb) for about 1/8 to 1/4 turn, but not what I would consider tight enough for no leak.
 

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I use the AST TOY730 filter wrench for the 90915-YZZD3 filter on my Camry and Tacoma

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Most filters specifically state in the instructions to only tighten hand tight. I hate it when people use tools to tighten a filter. It makes it really difficult to remove. In the case of the OP, use rubber gloves to tighten the filter, it will give you the additional torque you need if you can't get it tight enough.
 
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WhiffySpark

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I thought the Lisle one would have taken care of both the REMOVE and INSTALL, but they are REMOVE ONLY! Anybody have a modification to this wrench so it INSTALLS too?
Else I have to buy another tool, like the end cap INSTALLERS at Advance!

My Toyotas, AND my Honda minivan, all have NO clearance to put your hand around the
filter. Access to the end of the filter only. Maybe FINGER tight (3 fingers and a thumb) for about 1/8 to 1/4 turn, but not what I would consider tight enough for no leak.

That's how it should be. Do not use a tool.
 

George in Rancho Cordova

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A filter on an old Falcon had an oil leak, but only above idle speed.
The RPM had to be increased to generate enough oil pressure to leak where the filter had been installed and cut with a strap type filter wrench.
 

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Which one of you nice gentlemen would like to come over 4X per year and hand-tighten the filter on my Explorer with the plastic shield/oil guide so close, and no room between the fan & block to get at it from the top?

"One size fits all" responses don't cut it.
 

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If an oil filter needs anything more than hand tight I use a work grippy glove for extra grip, and give it that extra hand tight twist. Example Ducati motorcycles, like their oil filters tighter than your average oil filter. I only use a wrench for removal. Besides it normally scratches or damages the filter. If on a motorcycle, the filter is on show ! and you want to avoid any damage for cosmetic reasons.
 

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Interestingly, some manufacturers like GM provide torque specifications for oil filters - 22.0 pounds-feet for a Corvette. Installation requires a lot MORE force than most people can apply by hand when gripping a 3-inch filter (1.5-inch lever arm).

Better work on your grip if you follow factory specifications. :)
 

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The only reason I use the cup wrench on my mom's Kia is because I physically can't get the 3/4 turn as recommended on the filters. Even when I use the cup wrench I still just tighten it 3/4 turn from when the gasket makes contact.

Obviously, you shouldn't be cranking it down to 40ft/lbs or anything, my TL service manual recommends 3/4 turn or 8.7ft/lbs Some cars just don't have the room to get your hand on the filter to hand tighten it.
 
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WhiffySpark

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Which one of you nice gentlemen would like to come over 4X per year and hand-tighten the filter on my Explorer with the plastic shield/oil guide so close, and no room between the fan & block to get at it from the top?

"One size fits all" responses don't cut it.

They're not that hard unless you're not on a lift.

There really isn't any filter that I've ever used something to tighten.
 

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I have one of these - it fits on my 3/8 ratchet.

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I bought it 10+ years ago from a local auto parts store to use mostly for loosening filters in tight spaces, like on my Tacoma or the Rav4 I had before. It's Made in USA and cost me $10 I think - much better deal than the Toyota SST.

I agree that filters should be tightened by hand, but there are some vehicles with oil filters mounted in such a way that they are hard to tighten by hand.

Tip: Use a piece of sandpaper to get some extra grip when you're trying to loosen or tighten a slippery oil filter by hand.
 

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with oil filters i have always hand tighten without issues because they do not take tha much really and are a pain to get off over tightened

buy to anwser your original question the aluminum up styles work the best on both ends just make sure and use them with a socket the square drive on some does not like overtightened filter
 

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I take any piece of sandpaper I can find in the 100-180 grit range, and fold it so the back is against itself, grit on my hand and the filter. Oh yeah, I tear it so it's about the length of my hand.

I had to learn to cheat every way I could when I tore my bicep muscle on my right arm.
 

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I take any piece of sandpaper I can find in the 100-180 grit range, and fold it so the back is against itself, grit on my hand and the filter. Oh yeah, I tear it so it's about the length of my hand.

I had to learn to cheat every way I could when I tore my bicep muscle on my right arm.

Yup I have some 120 grit paper in the oil change drawer. I've never found a filter wrench I liked and an old timer showed me that trick. Now if I could only find the 200 LB gorilla that puts them on...

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GirlnAgarage

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Switch to fluted filters and use the fluted wrench pictured a few above so you can use an extension on it. It just goes on like a cap.
 
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OUCH! For $77 and change, break even for a diy oil change, won't happen
until I'm well under a few feet of dirt! And I only need 1 size!

I DO have one of those "cap" wrenches that fits a Fram PH25 filter (3 1/2" dia). Unfortunately, the Toyota filters are only 2" in diameter.

Maybe putting an adjustable hose clamp around this fancy $10 Lisle tool will let me use this tool as an filter INSTALLER!:dunno:
 

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What part # is your oil filter?

I had this issue in Japan, changing my oil on an Isuzu. It's not rocket surgery, we just gotta find you the right size fluted oil filter wrench. I had one of those you posted in your first post but same problem, I couldn't use to tighten and I couldn't get my hand in there. I think I also attempted a using a strap wrench attacking from the top.

Perhaps a option is an oil filter relocation kit, depending on your plans for that vehicle. May make it loads easier to change your oil.
 
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Well I guess I use something that folks don't usually use.

It's an old sheet of used ping pong paddle rubber. If the filter is oily and difficult to get a grip on it, the rubber sheet works well. I guess it's a similar idea to the guy above who uses 120grit sandpaper.
 

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OUCH! For $77 and change, break even for a diy oil change, won't happen
until I'm well under a few feet of dirt! And I only need 1 size!

I DO have one of those "cap" wrenches that fits a Fram PH25 filter (3 1/2" dia). Unfortunately, the Toyota filters are only 2" in diameter.

Maybe putting an adjustable hose clamp around this fancy $10 Lisle tool will let me use this tool as an filter INSTALLER!:dunno:
The Toyota filters use a 65mm 14 flue. It's in the kit. I snagged the proto kit la couple of days ago on eBay for $27 w/shipping. Yeah $77 is a lot.
 
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