Oil filter removal pliers

[dink]

Oil filter removal pliers.....are they better then the standard oil filter wrenches like thats been around forever?

what are peoples thoughts

http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CHA-215.html

Old style wrench
http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/SKF-MODU46CLPB.html

 

[Luckydevil]

Whatever works best considering your space restraints. Most cars have limited space around the oil filter usually, especially newer cars.

Hell, I've seen guys use screwdrivers stabbed into the oil filter to remove it before.

 

[Thumper]

If ya got room they work great. You just gotta watch how tight ya squeeze em or you'll collapse the filter.

 

[Fast Orange]

IMHO,those pliers are the tool of last resort when neither a strap wrench or a filter "socket" won't get the old filter off.Using these usually results in a crushed and torn filter case and the accompanying puddle on the floor.If you need to resort to these,it's time to give the guy who did the last LOF a beating.

George

 

[eschoendorff]

IMHO,those pliers are the tool of last resort when neither a strap wrench or a filter "socket" won't get the old filter off.Using these usually results in a crushed and torn filter case and the accompanying puddle on the floor.If you need to resort to these,it's time to give the guy who did the last LOF a beating.

George

I agree here. Use these if you want to wear the oil in the oil filter. My favorite oil filter removal device is one that I found at Sears. It fits on a 3/8 ratchet and as you turn the ratchet counterclockwise, the tool contracts around the oil filter. It is pretty cool, works well, is USA made and was only about $7. I think that it is actually a KD tools sourced device.

 

[wythors]

I've worked in shops and dealerships for 20 years (god, I'm getting old) and I've never seen a professional technician use one of those. The weapon of choice is usually either the standard contracting strap type or the cup on a ratchet type.

 

[krooser]

Big ChannelLocks....

 

[kartracer55]

If you have the room... Funny you should bring this up as I changed the oil in the durango today. The only style you can use are the strap kinds... no room for the plastic cups, cant use the one withh the 3 spring loaded arms, and definetly no room for those giant pliers.

I REALLY like the plastic cup ones that fit onto the bottom of the filter but rarely can I use them. My collection is 2 sizes of the straps, one cup, and one of these 3 arm claw deals from craftsman.

Jim

 

[pl_silverado]

These are the ones i have used for the last year, they work well, in most vehicles there is enough room to use them, of course i primarily deal with imports.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?item_ID=16349&group_ID=1535

Best $ 35 ever spent.

 

[kblazer87]

Big ChannelLocks....

I agree. That is what I have used for years. Some times will collapse the sides a bit, but I am not reusing the filter so doesn't matter to me. I prefer these over all of the other types I have used.
Mike

 

[Rickster]

I ave two styles, this one is the go-to one, but you need to get it in the right size for your filter: http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/KD-2991.html

This is my back up: http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/KD-2320.html

 

[Runner94]

I have the usual assortment of filter wrenches. I too have the three finger counterclockwise tool that goes on a 3/8 drive ratchet or extension. One thing I've learned through the years, after many times having to use a screw driver through the can or a chisel on the top ring, if it's that tight you tightened it too much. I hand tighten all my filters. Granted I crank them up by hand but I can loosen them by hand with a lot of effort. I have all Toyotas and if you tighten them too much the filter binds on the mount. Then the gasket won't work. A little fresh oil on the gasket also helps to get them loose.

My 2 cents.

This is the link to the one I use. http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/KD-3288.html

 

[kartracer55]

I have the usual assortment of filter wrenches. I too have the three finger counterclockwise tool that goes on a 3/8 drive ratchet or extension. One thing I've learned through the years, after many times having to use a screw driver through the can or a chisel on the top ring, if it's that tight you tightened it too much. I hand tighten all my filters. Granted I crank them up by hand but I can loosen them by hand with a lot of effort. I have all Toyotas and if you tighten them too much the filter binds on the mount. Then the gasket won't work. A little fresh oil on the gasket also helps to get them loose.

My 2 cents.

This is the link to the one I use. http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/KD-3288.html

I agree... Ive pulled filters off that I didnt think were going to come off... some people overtighten thier filters WAY too much(on the flip-side, Ive been able to remove themby hand). You said fresh oil on the gasket helps... Its an absolute must, or so I was tought. IT helps to seal the gasket. The rule I was tought was to go 3/4-1 full turn (never more) for the larger filters from the moment the gasket touches, and about 3/4 on smaller filters from whe the gasket touches.

Jim

 

[iiibdsiil]

Don't forget to always check to make sure the gasket came off the block. Never had it happen to me, but watched a buddy double gasket one at the Ford dealer. It's about funny as heck.

 

[JeeperAz]

Also, make sure to lube the gaskets before you put the filter on and do not over tighten.

Nice when a piece of sh*t Fram filter's gasket pinches and all of the oil in the vehicle gushes out as your wife drives it and ignores the check engine light.

 

[Jared]

Don't forget to always check to make sure the gasket came off the block. Never had it happen to me, but watched a buddy double gasket one at the Ford dealer. It's about funny as heck.

My friend did this in his 72 mustang and spun couple main bearing. Its definitly a good thing to check to make sure it came of and always put some grease or oil on the seal

 

[eschoendorff]

Also, make sure to lube the gaskets before you put the filter on and do not over tighten.

Nice when a piece of sh*t Fram filter's gasket pinches and all of the oil in the vehicle gushes out as your wife drives it and ignores the check engine light.

Ugh... FRAM. I use the Purolator Pure One on the Vette and teh SuperTech (from Walmart) on everything else. You can laugh if you like, but the SuperTech has garnered some pretty good reviewes from the guys over at the "Bob Is the Oil Guy" website. These guys are borderline fanatic about oils/filters/lubrication. Check it out!

http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi

 

[JeeperAz]

Fortunately, the picture above isnt mine. I would never use Fram.

 

[Fast Orange]

Here we go with the great oil filter debate-
Has this subject been brought up here yet? If not,should we get into it,and what topic category does it fit into?

George

 

[kartracer55]

Well fram filters are supposed to ****, but Any filter that you double gasket would probably blow out. I dont have to tell you guys though.

WIX filters are known to be tops. I just read the box when I changed it yesterday, and it turns out it has an oil bypass valve so if the filter clogs it doesnt starve themotor for oil. WIX makes NAPA premium filters too, so you can get them alot cheaper.

In the one car my dad uses the wix filters because he comutes in it and puts on a ton of miles, so he needs them to hold up a bit longer than the other car, because he cant be changine the oil every other weekend. HE buys regular purolator filters for the durango because my mom doesnt really put many miles on it, so the oil gets changed rather often. The important thing is to change it every oil change... Ive come across many sources that say you can change the filter every other time you change just the oil. Thats just BS and your asking for trouble.

Jim

 

[dink]

When changing the oil on my Scion xB I just go to the dealer.....they were tested against others and the Toyota filter (whoever makes it for them) worked alot better

 

[kartracer55]

When changing the oil on my Scion xB I just go to the dealer.....they were tested against others and the Toyota filter (whoever makes it for them) worked alot better

IF the scion filter is branded toyota it is just a Purolator filter... not the basic but the next one up.

Maybe you can save yourself some $$$



Jim

 

[dink]

I believe its $3.50 at the dealer

 

[wythors]

I believe its $3.50 at the dealer

If it is, it isn't a Toyota filter. I'm a parts guy at a Toyota dealer. Cost on the filter is $3.85 and most retail them at $4.95. A lot of dealers will buy cheapo filters and use them on their loss-leader oil changes.

 

[Fast Orange]

For my pick-up,which is probably used.abused more than the average car or truck by towing,short and long commutes,extensive idling and a ton of other sins, I use Mobil 1 oil and K&N oil filters.The K&Ns cost more,but since I'm already spending $25 for oil,a $10 filter doesn't hurt too badly.My LOF interval for the truck is 5000 miles or 2 months.The K&Ns filter down to 10 microns,have the beefiest case,a high quality by-pass valve and a silicone based gasket. The oil still looks clean when it gets changed.
For my wife's VW Passat VR-6,which only sees about 5000 miles ayear,either Wix or OEM cartridgeswith Vavolineor Castrol dino based oil.LOF interval is every 6 months.
For gas engined trucks at work,all WIX with Valvoline All-Climate,every 3000 miles.
For all diesels,I use WIX and Shell Rotella T- every 6000 miles or 6 months.
The lower end Frams are garbage-the higher priced ones aren't much better.And,to add insult to injury,there are a lot of counterfeit chinese made trash being sold in almost perfect copies of Fram products.

George

 

[dboat]

FWIW,
I run Mobil 1 oil and filters in all of our vehicles. I also use Mobil 1 in our 4 cycle lawn tools. I use LawnBoy oil for the 2 cycle stuff.. my mower is a LawnBoy and I like not having to change the oil..
Dana

 

[eschoendorff]

FWIW,
I run Mobil 1 oil and filters in all of our vehicles. I also use Mobil 1 in our 4 cycle lawn tools. I use LawnBoy oil for the 2 cycle stuff.. my mower is a LawnBoy and I like not having to change the oil..
Dana

I am the same way with 2 cycle oil, except I use Stihl exclusively. When we owned a lawnservice, we used only Lawnboy 2 cycle 21" mowers (well, not counting the big commercial riders) and Stihl trimmers, blowers, etc. The Stihl gave us the best lifespan with the least amount of ash.

Highly recommended if anyone's shopping 2 cycle oil.

 

[kartracer55]

Highly recommended if anyone's shopping 2 cycle oil.

I disagree

PowerPlus full synthetic, Burris castor Blend, or Motul The guys who run the Pipe class yamahas turn those things at about 15-2K lol Mine only sees like 14-5

Of course, 8$ a pint is a bit much for a trimmer lol

Haha

Jim

 

[kartracer55]

FWIW,
I run Mobil 1 oil and filters in all of our vehicles. I also use Mobil 1 in our 4 cycle lawn tools. I use LawnBoy oil for the 2 cycle stuff.. my mower is a LawnBoy and I like not having to change the oil..
Dana

Why bother with the synthetic? I overhaul, rebuild and repair small power equipment like this as a sort of side buisness(but im by no means an expert)... People bring in stuff for me to do an oil change on and the last person to touch it was me a year prior to that. Lawnmowers have a rather boring life compared to a car engine... they run full throttle for 20-30 minutes a week, sometimes every other week, and thats it. IF your doing commercial maintnence its a different story, but as long as you check the level of your oil every once ina while to make sure it isnt low, you only need to change it like once a year any way. Think of it like this... If you cut your lawn once a week for 3/4 of the year, and the mower is running for 30 minutes, its been running for just shy of 20 hours (25 is the norm, briggs says 50 for some but i dont buy that) Just the rule I follow and have been tought to follow, no problems yet

Jim

 

[dink]

If it is, it isn't a Toyota filter. I'm a parts guy at a Toyota dealer. Cost on the filter is $3.85 and most retail them at $4.95. A lot of dealers will buy cheapo filters and use them on their loss-leader oil changes.

I pay the $3.85.....its in a nice Toyota red with white lettering....and it works for me

 

[Vincent Vega]

I gotta go with the big channel lock choice(if needed.) I do all my own LOF. The filters are never on too tight. Always oil the gasket, always.

 

[kartracer55]

I wanna know what the hell kind of cars you guys all drive to be able to use pliers like that. I can barely fit a band wrench sometimes lol

Jim

 

[iiibdsiil]

I used to have a hell of a time on the Fords, and I have never ever ever ever ever gotten on of those ones that you wrap around pull the handle to tighten it to work. I give it everything I've got with my hand, then I bust out my Facom ratcheting one. For being straight like it is, I have gotten to work on almost everything, just takes a little bending sometimes. Else, it's channel locks.

 

[kartracer55]

I used to have a hell of a time on the Fords, and I have never ever ever ever ever gotten on of those ones that you wrap around pull the handle to tighten it to work. I give it everything I've got with my hand, then I bust out my Facom ratcheting one. For being straight like it is, I have gotten to work on almost everything, just takes a little bending sometimes. Else, it's channel locks.


No, not a strap wrench like from sears... one of these... as you turn the ratchet they get tighter on the filter. Youve seen them, they havent changed at all

http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/KD-2320.html

Jim

 

[iiibdsiil]

Ya, that's what I'm talking about. Except they usually open up fully and you have to hold the handle. I have never gotten one of those to work. Lol

 

[kartracer55]

No, I mean check out the link lol You slip it over the bottom of the filter and put an extension and ratchet on the thing. take the filter off, flip the thing over to tighten the new one. These are the ones I always use... the only ones that fit half the time.

Jim

 

[dboat]

Why bother with the synthetic? I overhaul, rebuild and repair small power equipment like this as a sort of side buisness(but im by no means an expert)... People bring in stuff for me to do an oil change on and the last person to touch it was me a year prior to that. Lawnmowers have a rather boring life compared to a car engine... they run full throttle for 20-30 minutes a week, sometimes every other week, and thats it. IF your doing commercial maintnence its a different story, but as long as you check the level of your oil every once ina while to make sure it isnt low, you only need to change it like once a year any way. Think of it like this... If you cut your lawn once a week for 3/4 of the year, and the mower is running for 30 minutes, its been running for just shy of 20 hours (25 is the norm, briggs says 50 for some but i dont buy that) Just the rule I follow and have been tought to follow, no problems yet

Jim

two reasons, its overkill and I dont worry about the protection that way; and its the only oil I have in my garage, so I dont have to worry about which one I grab.. its all Mobil 1 except for the 2 cycle stuff.. I only run one mixture on it, so some get more oil than what they need but its better than having to have multiple mixtures.
Dana

 

[eschoendorff]

two reasons, its overkill and I dont worry about the protection that way; and its the only oil I have in my garage, so I dont have to worry about which one I grab.. its all Mobil 1 except for the 2 cycle stuff.. I only run one mixture on it, so some get more oil than what they need but its better than having to have multiple mixtures.
Dana

SOunds like you got a system going there. Why mess with a good thing?

 

[iiibdsiil]

No, I mean check out the link lol You slip it over the bottom of the filter and put an extension and ratchet on the thing. take the filter off, flip the thing over to tighten the new one. These are the ones I always use... the only ones that fit half the time.

Jim

Lol. I looked at the link. It's too hard to explain the mixup.

 

[kartracer55]

stupid internet... we cant communicate our thoughts lol

Oh well Whatever works right?

Jim