nate379
Banned
Used the plier style on hundreds of cars and only found it to be a problem on the super cheap filters. The ones that the metal was about the thickness of a beer can.
If you are changing oil on automotive, get the cup style that is specific for that vehicle. As far as oil filter pliers, I hate them. THey don't work that well and if you pull a filter off in the field without having the exact same filter then you're screwed. I say that because the company I work for gets different brands of filters and even though they are suppose to cross, sometimes they don't. If you put a hole in the filter with the channellocks then the machine is completely down and you are in deep sh*t.
Back in my younger days, to save a buck, I'd do the same thing. But, then I recall a story that an old mechanic told me. You see, there was this young bull and his father, the old bull. They were looking over the hill and saw a herd of young heffers. The young bull said to his father, " Dad, why don't we run down to the herd and 



