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Oil Heat Sources...Any Ceiling mounts?

Spudland_Dave

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Are there any slick hot air-oil fired heaters out there...sorta like a Reznor/Modine Gas version but oil fired instead?
LP/Gas is not an option due to safety concerns...so it has to be oil.
Just looking for something that might preserve floorspace, etc.. the only ceiling mounts I've found are waste oil burners.
 
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You might need to get a oil fired boiler, then feed a forced air unit with water/steam. At least, that's what my dad does in his ~10 car garage. One central boiler and ~3-4 forced air units. Could also just do radiators. Nice heat source.

Google shows whole house forced air units that are oil fed. There might be a small one. There are horizontal oriented ones too that you can install in a crawl space or suspend.

example:
http://www.alpinehomeair.com/viewproduct.cfm?productID=453066237

It's 1200 cfm - how big is your garage?
 
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Look for regular home oil furnaces. Your shop is big enough to utilize a full sized furnace. You can hang a furnace from the ceiling by suspending a platform or by using unistrut.

Seems crazy to use oil but current costs are not that bad. Should be lots of oil furnaces available from people switching over to the much cheaper NG furnaces, heat pumps, or even propane. Contact an HVAC company to ask about their take outs.

You can use home heating oil in your tractor, even in your truck if you don't mind breaking the law. It's all diesel fuel.
 
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Look for regular home oil furnaces. Your shop is big enough to utilize a full sized furnace. You can hang a furnace from the ceiling by suspending a platform or by using unistrut.

Seems crazy to use oil but current costs are not that bad. Should be lots of oil furnaces available from people switching over to the much cheaper NG furnaces, heat pumps, or even propane. Contact an HVAC company to ask about their take outs.

You can use home heating oil in your tractor, even in your truck if you don't mind breaking the law. It's all diesel fuel.

LOL, funny you mention about take outs...my heating guy was JUST telling me he's taking out a 2 year old LP boiler because of that LP explosion here in ME....same one that has my wife shaken up...they are going back to oil...he's actually gotten a couple other calls asking about doing the same switch.

In the meantime...my wife spoke with her sister who used to have NG at their place...and they own a bunch of Appt. Buildings with NG heat...I think by me not pushing it too hard she's opening up to the idea of the Reznor...final decision will be the quote from my heating guy..which I think we all know which will be cheaper. :beer:
 

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The answer to your question is yes there are suspended oil heaters. Personally I don't think they are any safer than gas (but that's a personal opinion.) To properly evaluate the risk you'd have to do some serious research, then do a statistical analysis. Just because someone else had a problem doesn't mean the entire system is flawed--perhaps there was something unique about their installation that caused the problem?
 
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The answer to your question is yes there are suspended oil heaters. Personally I don't think they are any safer than gas (but that's a personal opinion.) To properly evaluate the risk you'd have to do some serious research, then do a statistical analysis. Just because someone else had a problem doesn't mean the entire system is flawed--perhaps there was something unique about their installation that caused the problem?

Oh I agree, your preaching to the choir...I want the Gas for a couple reasons, she didn't/doesn't...because of this:
http://www.kjonline.com/news/Some-condo-residents-allowed-to-return-following-Yarmouth-explosion.html
 
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OMG, 3000$ for a hanging heater? Wow.

Yeah, seems excessive, contractor price is probably half of that. I'm sure if you look around you can get a better deal. But, this does go to answering the OP's question as to what's available.

Myself, I'd probably go with a gas fired unit in a home shop/garage...oil is a pain in the ***, but, to each his own.
 
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OMG, 3000$ for a hanging heater? Wow.

That's pretty much what I said too...

Yeah, seems excessive, contractor price is probably half of that. I'm sure if you look around you can get a better deal. But, this does go to answering the OP's question as to what's available.

Myself, I'd probably go with a gas fired unit in a home shop/garage...oil is a pain in the ***, but, to each his own.

Truthfully, I PREFER Oil, Gas is purely a financial decision for me. If I could get a Reznor UDAP in a direct vent oil fired variant, I probably would pay the 3k no questions as that's exactly what I'm looking for...unfortunately that doesn't exist, so I gotta go with LP. Luckily the unit itself is dirt cheap and from what I've read, very nice.
 

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That's pretty much what I said too...



Truthfully, I PREFER Oil, Gas is purely a financial decision for me. If I could get a Reznor UDAP in a direct vent oil fired variant, I probably would pay the 3k no questions as that's exactly what I'm looking for...unfortunately that doesn't exist, so I gotta go with LP. Luckily the unit itself is dirt cheap and from what I've read, very nice.

In my experience, the Modines are right on par with the Reznors, for what it's worth.
 
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In my experience, the Modines are right on par with the Reznors, for what it's worth.

Yeah I was under the same impression...Reznor wins because A) Fan is apparently quieter, B) Gloss white w/Red Lettering is way nicer then that ugly Tan Modine uses.

I've seen plenty of those stuck in the corner of a shop/garage with plenum on top and registers cut into it.

That's precisely what my heating guy suggested and is quoting out for an oil solution alongside the Reznor. (Heating guy suggested modine too, but I told him I wanted the quieter fan)
 

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LOL, finally someone who likes oil for heating their garage!

I own one, a "Metro Heat" Hanging heater likely from the 70's. It is starting to show it's age, and it needs another overhaul.

The advantage with oil heaters is that they are easy to work on if you are mechanically inclined. The disadvantage is that they require regular work and cleaning, and the oil is just a dirty fuel.

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Some other advantages of oil heat in your garage:

1) Areas like mine have natural gas expansion going on everywhere (except to my house apparently which is another sore point to me). In those areas, used oil tanks, and used furnaces can often be had for nearly free... in some cases, they are informally selling/giving away the oil as well.
2) Ease of fixing.
3) Less chance to blow up than with propane.
4) Older furnaces are often quite literally, bombproof.

Disadvantages:

1) Insurance costs
2) Priming (if it is a hanging it adds extra pain)
3) Air purging
4) Setting air mixture ratio
5) Cleaning
6) Operating cost is tied to the whims of foreigners who will greedily accept our money, then use some of it to to wage jihad against us. (and the remainder to fund lavish lifestyles that British monarchy, US Presidents, and Canadian Prime Ministers can only dream of while other western ex-pats conduct the real work of getting it out of the ground around the world)

My views aside, I can see alot of the reasons why people move to propane, and I want to in alot of ways, but for now, oil furnaces are just too common for my area. I do plan on upgrading this beast to a used newer house furnace eventually when it finally puff's out.

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