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goodfellow

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I got these as a $10.00 "buy it now" on ebay. Someone obviously didn't know what they were selling. It's a lot of old Burroughs carburetor adjustment tools -- and miscellaneous add ons.

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cruiser808

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Anyone can claim to be a Q-jet "expert". I've found enough posers to make me sick. The basic problem is that most companies and rebuilders do not take care of the thottle shaft bushings when rebuilding them. It's more $$$$$. I love Q-jets and make a sideline living restoring them, but I only have local customers and want to keep it that way.
 
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krusty the clown

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both elroy and cruiser are right it's a lost art and most never master it! i have only rebuilt one automotive carb in the last 5 years and it was an AVS. however i have done several motorcycle carbs that other shops have tuned and didn't get right. it takes patience and experience that the flate rate system doesn't allow.
 

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Motorcycle carburetors leave most techs chewing their toe nails. Seen a few times a badly adjusted carburetor really screwed up an engine.
 

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Rochester's were always easy, but I never mastered the technique of doing the Quadra Jet. I only wish that I could find someone local that knew how to work on them. I have a 1969 Caddy that could use a good carb rebuild before I try running it on the road. It also needs some serious paint work also...
 

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I love Q-jets and make a sideline living restoring them,

Then you know about the problem of the bowl cover warping because of the uneven clamping pressure of the mounting bolts. The rear two are at the base, and the front two of course are going through the bowl cover; why they did that I'll never know. :wtf:
 

nissan_crawler

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q-jets are excellent carbs once they're set right. That being said, I hate setting them, and am by no means, an expert at it. I'm a trial and error guy.
 

Merkava_4

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I never got a chance to master the use of those linkage bending tools; all I ever did was clean/reassemble with a new float, new needle and seat, new accelerator pump, new gaskets, check for bent metering rods, and then just set the choke plate to the right size drill bit.

A feeler gage between the bowl cover and bowl body usually showed warpage; the gage had to be a rather thin .002" leaf if I remeber correctly.

I never got a chance to learn how to change the throttle shaft bushings; I usually had to hand the throttle plate assemble off to a pro to do that.

I miss carburetors; they're a lot of fun.
 
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Blacknwhitepit

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Yes, rebuilding a carb is a lost art.

Gone with Horse whip manufacturers and cure all tonics.

I am glad they are gone, and I don't care to even remember doing them. Especially those damm Q-jets with the TPS built into them.

I rebuilt enough Q-Jets.

I also do not miss replacing points and setting timing.

JMHO

-BWP
 
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TNToy

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Carbs are gay. Too hard to diagnose with a laptop chock full of OEM-specific software, and a $300 multimeter.

Who the hell wants to use a vacuum gauge to fix vehicles? :shudder:

I'm lost without ST and LT fuel trim readings. :D
 

billymade

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I don't miss rebuilding carbs constantly, stuck floats, points, adjusting valves etc. etc.... FI, fly by wire, no dist., self adjusting belts, synthetic oil and low maintenance is awesome... :)
 

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I don't miss rebuilding carbs constantly, stuck floats, points, adjusting valves etc. etc.... FI, fly by wire, no dist., self adjusting belts, synthetic oil and low maintenance is awesome... :)

Whats constantly? On the Motorcrafts on my FE engines other than needing to constantly play with the manual choke linkage on my truck becuase I didn't have time to set it up right until recently I haven't even looked them since I rebuilt the carbs when I first got them (on the one that was 6 years ago the other last year).

Overall I spend about as much maintence time on my 71 Ford and my 68 Monterey as I do on my moms 96 Caravan or my sisters 98 Grand Ma. Disclaimer: My truck however at the moment qualifies as high maintence since I have been redoing the cab and interior and doors and finding out why I hate body work.
 

Junkman

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Carbs are gay. Too hard to diagnose with a laptop chock full of OEM-specific software, and a $300 multimeter.

Who the hell wants to use a vacuum gauge to fix vehicles? :shudder:

I'm lost without ST and LT fuel trim readings. :D

I don't miss rebuilding carbs constantly, stuck floats, points, adjusting valves etc. etc.... FI, fly by wire, no dist., self adjusting belts, synthetic oil and low maintenance is awesome... :)

With these type of engines, what do you need tools for.. Can't your computer just hook up to it and make all the necessary repairs. Wouldn't want to see you prissy computer jockeys get your fingers dirty would we??? :lol_hitti
Real mechanics wear grease like purfume...:thumbup:
 

SteveV

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I'm not a Quadrajet fan, even though they can be great when they're set up right.

I've also had mine rebuilt by Quadrajet "gurus", and have been disappointed. All the times I've messed with one, I've regretted not just throwing a Holly or Edelbrock on and calling it a day.

They have some cool features, but I would rather just have simplicity if I'm messing with an older car.
 

krusty the clown

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With these type of engines, what do you need tools for.. Can't your computer just hook up to it and make all the necessary repairs. Wouldn't want to see you prissy computer jockeys get your fingers dirty would we??? :lol_hitti
Real mechanics wear grease like purfume...:thumbup:


jeez junk......ya gotta stop sugar coating stuff :lol_hitti
 

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I would give my front seat in hell for a nice set.....just like back in the good old days. These young'uns don't know what they missed out on...LOL:bounce:

Theres nothing like a Thermoquad.....
 

cruiser808

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I never had the tools, probably a good part of why I hated it.

Nissan, you're absolutely right, it ain't no fun without the right tools, especially the later electronic carbs like the E-Qjet. Thexton and OTC made alot of the tools I use, gotta have them to set the carb up right.
 
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