Old delta drill press parts needed

[370]

Ok so I have an old delta drill press (I believe its a 17-600). Looks like this



What I need is a motor capacitor mine is a 110v/230v multi volt motor. I also need a couple handles and possibly the hub the handles screw into. I'm not sure if I can save the hub. I'm certain I could make the handles if need be. Just have the neighbor thread some bar on his lathe for me and the knobs kinda look like the knobs on my transfer case shifters for my rock crawler jeep.

 

[exmaxima1]

Ok so I have an old delta drill press (I believe its a 17-600). Looks like this



What I need is a motor capacitor mine is a 110v/230v multi volt motor. I also need a couple handles and possibly the hub the handles screw into. I'm not sure if I can save the hub. I'm certain I could make the handles if need be. Just have the neighbor thread some bar on his lathe for me and the knobs kinda look like the knobs on my transfer case shifters for my rock crawler jeep.

I have the same drill press and was also unable to save the hub when the handles wore out the holes. Stock handle were threaded 7/16", so I bored/reamed slightly under 1/2" and pressed in 1/2" shafts. Used press-on knobs as well. Works great.

 

[Mintgrun]

McMaster Carr has a nice assortment of knobs to choose from --
http://www.mcmaster.com/#machine-component-knobs/=14a1y2i

 

[Packard V8]

I also need a couple handles and possibly the hub the handles screw into. I'm not sure if I can save the hub.

The handles and knobs are an easy fabrication. Usually, a Helicoil will repair the hub threads. If it's too far gone for an insert, the DP had a hard life, but, as mentioned, bore and tap to 1/2".

jack vines

 

[370]

Yeah I'm sure I can fix thr handles and hub. But what about this motor capacitor. Thats whatbreally holding me back at the moment.

 

[bmw57isetta]

For those knobs, I've used JW Winco. Good selection and prices. Search on "ball knobs". www.jwwinco.com

Another source, although pricier, is essentracomponents.com.

You might also find your handles at either place as well.

 

[tym]

Yeah I'm sure I can fix thr handles and hub. But what about this motor capacitor. Thats whatbreally holding me back at the moment.

Any idea what the capacitance value and voltage rating were? Should be able to source one from Digi-Key, Mouser, etc.

 

[ecotec]

For those knobs, I've used JW Winco. Good selection and prices. Search on "ball knobs". www.jwwinco.com

Another source, although pricier, is essentracomponents.com.

You might also find your handles at either place as well.

Thank you. I will go check this website out right now. I need two feed handles and two feed handle balls for my Atlas 1010. My price list that came with my press says the handles are $.50 and the balls are $.30... This is in Bulletin 1010-NP1 November 1949, so the prices may have gone up. Nobody seems to be answering the phone at the Atlas Press Company...

 

[454ragtop]

I have a spare hub, with handles I could sell. Prior owner made some knurled aluminum knobs, could either use them or swap them out for some plastic knobs.
Jim

 

[370]

I have a spare hub, with handles I could sell. Prior owner made some knurled aluminum knobs, could either use them or swap them out for some plastic knobs.
Jim

I'm interested. I'll PM you and we'll talk $$

 

[370]

Any idea what the capacitance value and voltage rating were? Should be able to source one from Digi-Key, Mouser, etc.

I can get you a picture of the tag on the motor past that I have no idea. When I bought this drill press the capacitor was already missing

 

[tym]

Tag or perhaps there's a wiring diagram somewhere.

I'll bet the GJ hive mind probably knows what value cap is needed.

 

[tool_scrounge]

Remember - if you pay by check or money order with Digikey, there is no minimum order size and shipping is free.

 

[370]

I'll grab a picture of the tag in the AM. I thought I had a of on my phone but I dont

 

[kentenn]

Check Owwm.org and vintagemachinery.org. Those guys have a lot of parts and info...

 

[Davefr]

If the cap is missing you might be SOL in pinpointing the correct value. At that point it's a matter of researching similar HP, speed, voltage motors and making an educated guess. (or trial and error using a Turbo Cap).

You generally want the smallest value where the motor starts quickly. (or maybe one value higher then that)

Another option is to take it to a motor shop if there are any left in your area.

However I'd VFD it. A VFD is the single biggest improvement you can make to a DP IMHO. Just find a cheap 3 phase motor and add a VFD. Lot's of examples here:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=320064

(mine is #204)

 

[tym]

To add to the above, given that most caps have a +/-20% or so tolerance, finding a "close enough" value with sufficient voltage rating should be OK. An exact capacitance value match isn't necessary.

 

[370]

If the cap is missing you might be SOL in pinpointing the correct value. At that point it's a matter of researching similar HP, speed, voltage motors and making an educated guess. (or trial and error using a Turbo Cap).

You generally want the smallest value where the motor starts quickly. (or maybe one value higher then that)

Another option is to take it to a motor shop if there are any left in your area.

However I'd VFD it. A VFD is the single biggest improvement you can make to a DP IMHO. Just find a cheap 3 phase motor and add a VFD. Lot's of examples here:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=320064

(mine is #204)

I don't have 3ph. Residential shop so only 1ph
here

I'm in a very industrial area I bet I have a local.electric motor shop. Or it just dawned on me I might have just the resource I need for this problem.. my father in law is an electrical.engineer. i'll tap his brain about it.

 

[Davefr]

I don't have 3ph. Residential shop so only 1ph
here

You don't need 3 phase.

The beauty of a VFD is that it takes single phase AC, rectifies it to DC and then transforms it to 3 phase AC and will then vary the frequency and thus the motor's speed.

 

[370]

Ok i'm interested. This VFD you speak of would make it possible for me to buy a 3ph mill and use it in my home shop correct? I'd be more interested in using it for that then this drill press. What does VFD stand for? Average cost?

 

[Davefr]

Ok i'm interested. This VFD you speak of would make it possible for me to buy a 3ph mill and use it in my home shop correct? I'd be more interested in using it for that then this drill press. What does VFD stand for? Average cost?

Variable Frequency Drive (VFD)

You can supply single phase 120VAC and the VFD will output 220VAC three phase and it will vary the frequency with user input to provide precise motor speed control. This version is good for about 1 - 1.5HP motors. Cost is around $150 + or -.

The downside is that you will loose power at the very low RPM end compared to changing belts and pulleys. However this may not be a concern if your motor is large enough. (a VFD supplies constant torque vs belts/step pulleys that multiply torque).

My 17" Delta DP has a 1.5 HP 3 phase motor and I power it with a Teco L510 1 HP VFD. (slightly under spec but works fine). I can go from 200 RPM to 3350 at the turn of a dial. Since the motor is 1.5 HP I get plenty of torque at the low RPM end. (if my motor was 1/2 HP 3 phase then I doubt it would have much torque at the very low RPM end).

For >1.5 HP motors you'll likely need to supply 220VAC single phase input and VFD pricing goes up significantly.

Go to the VFD thread for more info.

A VFD on a DP or mill is a marriage made in heaven IMHO.