I need some help Identifing an old delta drill press I believe it's a 17 inch model. It's missing the spindle pinion and handle it has part of the power feed attachment. I think it may be a special 600 will other model pinions work for it. I know the picture army the best I'll try to get some better ones when I can serial number appears to be 19 0799. Any info would be appriacited. Thanks
Old delta drill press
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Richard Cranium
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It don't really look to be in bad shape if you can find the replacement parts for a decent price. Did you post how much they want for it?
oops, I guess you answered that in the last posting.
oops, I guess you answered that in the last posting.
454ragtop
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Pull gear?
Wow, that's the Delta DP-600!!
It looks like it's missing the feed handle, quill spring cover, possibly table lift mechanism and chuck/arbor.
I do see the spindle.
It looks pretty decent but the images are terrible. It could be a diamond in the rough once you inspect it in person.
If the table lift mechanism is complete and working then go buy it ASAP!! That's a killer price for a very hard to find unit. The table mechanism alone is worth the asking price if it's there.
The spring cover, feed handle and chuck are easily replaced. I don't even see an arc of shame in the table!!
Throw on a Teco L510 VFD, restore it and you'll have one of the best DP's every made.
It looks like it's missing the feed handle, quill spring cover, possibly table lift mechanism and chuck/arbor.
I do see the spindle.
It looks pretty decent but the images are terrible. It could be a diamond in the rough once you inspect it in person.
If the table lift mechanism is complete and working then go buy it ASAP!! That's a killer price for a very hard to find unit. The table mechanism alone is worth the asking price if it's there.
The spring cover, feed handle and chuck are easily replaced. I don't even see an arc of shame in the table!!
Throw on a Teco L510 VFD, restore it and you'll have one of the best DP's every made.
454ragtop
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I'll have to double check when I get out to my shop, but I'm pretty sure the pinion is different with the power down feed. Will have to see how complete the down feed is and then decide whether you want to keep it. I'm sure the manual down feed pinions are a lot easier to come by, I may even have an extra.
Packard V8
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Agree, the DP600 is one of the best ever built. That 1-1/2hp 3-phase motor is a real plus. As mentioned, make sure the table raising mechanism is all there. It's somewhat fragile; the most likely to be missing pieces or broken and replacement pieces are very expensive.
Having just gone through the process of rebuilding one missing a few pieces, go into it knowing $250 is just the beginning. It seems there are plenty just like that one being parted out on eBay and the sellers think each and every small piece is worth $50+. Unless you're a really patient shopper, you can easily have another $250 in the missing pieces and then the VFD is another $150.
jack vines
454ragtop
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I responded to your thread over at OWWM. I checked, and the power feed models use a longer pinion, to accommodate the drive box. Hard to tell from your pics, but looks like you may be missing that gear box? Can you get some better pics of the other side of the head? Might be better off skipping the down feed, and installing a manual pinion.
PolishAvenger
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Congrats! When I owned one of these, I woulda bought THIS one just to have such a minty fresh table! Would own it to this day if I hadn't found an upgrade that I couldn't pass up. Enjoy!
-Mark
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Congratulations!! That looks like a nice machine at a you **** price.
Get a Teco L510-101-H1 VFD here:
http://dealerselectric.com/L510-101-H1-N.asp
The VFD is rated 1 HP but you can get by with a 1.5 HP motor. (use Sensorless vector mode and do an autotune. That will tune the VFD to the actual motor parameters.). PM me once you get to that point and I can email you all the programming settings I used. I haven't had a single problem. You also can get a 1.5HP VFD but prices jump significantly.
I'd remove all the power feed components and hang onto them just in case you find the other parts down the road. You should be able to eventually find the manual feed parts on Ebay or the BOYD thread at OWWM.
Does yours have a complete and working table lift mechanism?
Here's mine:
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This is one of those threads that can really show the hobbiest /limited exposure mentality. Suggesting that the Delta 17" 600, is one of the best ever...drill pressess? Hardly, and many home shops will find the flat production table limiting for many operations.
It's a good home shop drill press but still a bit fragile. Just use caution, especially if you get the power feed working. The missing quill pinion makes it useless as is.
It's a good home shop drill press but still a bit fragile. Just use caution, especially if you get the power feed working. The missing quill pinion makes it useless as is.
Packard V8
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Just asking, of those DPs in this price range and reasonable production volume, what would you recommend as a superior machine?
jack vines
454ragtop
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Curious about this as well, the Delta 17's are superior to the more common 13,14,and 15" drill presses like the Craftsman, Walker Turner, Atlas, Buffalo etc. I don't find them to be fragile at all, seem pretty rugged to me.
To the OP, pretty sure I have a manual feed pinion, unfortunately I sold the spare hub with the handles I had to another member a month or 2 ago.
So fragile that they survived the better half of a century of factory production use/abuse and are still coveted today?
And I'm sure you are counting all those that were destroyed or parted out due to severe damage/use? Also realize that the heavy drilling was done on more industrial machines. I just find the statement "one of the best" to be a bit ignorant. Same as with those that think the craftsman block grinders are the end all be all. Are they good tools, sure, great for the home shop, but to not realize they are middle of the road in the grand scheme of industrial tools is just ignorant.
And for the record, I've been there done that. Have a delta 17" and delta 15" drill press in the garage. Once you start to use industrial machinery you will see the difference. It's gotten to the point that many of the small machines have become more of a collectors item than a working tool. Without the quill pinion the OP bought a non working drill press.
Murphy4570
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Those old Deltas are indeed beefy, and the table lift feature is very nice. With that said, the solid tables themselves ****. No T slots, holes, etc, at all. Useless for attaching an X-Y table, rotary table, indexing head, or drill press vise. You have to use Kant clamps or C clamps to secure a vise or the work to the table.
I have access to a couple of them at work, and only use them for non-critical drilling into wood or minor diameter holes in metal, as to safely use it I have to swing the vise around so it rests against the column and hold it with one hand. For anything critical I use one of the Bridgeports, and for big holes a radial arm drill press.
With that said, I wish I had the table lift mechanism on my USA 15" Wilton drill press.
I have access to a couple of them at work, and only use them for non-critical drilling into wood or minor diameter holes in metal, as to safely use it I have to swing the vise around so it rests against the column and hold it with one hand. For anything critical I use one of the Bridgeports, and for big holes a radial arm drill press.
With that said, I wish I had the table lift mechanism on my USA 15" Wilton drill press.
Since when has severe "damage/use" = fragile.
So which is it? A "fragile home shop machine" or a "middle of the road industrial machine"? I'll agree with the later.
Of course it's not a 10 ton 6' Cincinnati Pickford but isn't that a little silly given the scope of this specific GJ forum/audience??
Of course he did. But for only a couple Benjamins he has the start of what looks like an easy restoration and he'll end up with a fine machine. The quill pinion shouldn't be too hard for the OP to find.
bubinga
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Do you mean "Bull gear" Like a low speed gear box for the spindle.
Like on a lathe.
Packard V8
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jack vines
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More information on the Pull-Gear about halfway down this page:
https://shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewtopic.php?t=6453&start=10
https://shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewtopic.php?t=6453&start=10
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CrankyOldMan
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You've got the missing half from my DP-600!
To the right buyer (and I may be just that person) it could be worth a decent chunk of change. I saw the front gearbox (the part you're missing) on eBay around the time I bought mine this summer, but they wanted a kidney and spleen for it. You didn't by chance buy it, did you?
454ragtop
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Johndough, did you ever get yours working? I've since found the manual feed pinion that I couldn't find when you were looking.
No I haven’t I gave up on it a little bit I think I have a lead on a pinion and handle over at vintage machinery forum. I’ll contact you if that doesn’t work out thank you. I still will need the srpring asembly or Aleast the cover and nut if anyone has one.
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454ragtop
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Ok, let me know, I have all the return spring parts as well.