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Old Hein Warner jacks, leaky or fixable?

Danglerb

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Talking to one of my mechanic friends he said he has several old Hein Warner jacks that he no longer uses because after a trip to Jack Exchange they still leaked. This is a nothing in his shop leaks mechanic, so no leaks has to mean no leaks, not a drop. Should a rebuild kit meet that standard?

I don't know the model numbers, but the shop has been around a good 30 years.
 
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A properly rebuilt jack using the correct oem seals and properly installed should provide many years of leak free service. With that said, some hein Werner models require occasional tightning of the compression nuts (vee packing) to keep them at optimum performance. A shop that has been in business for 30 years should have knowledge to rebuild jacks, unless they have a flunky in the back doing the work.
 
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Worse, Jack Exchange is three blocks down the street.

Next time I am there I will try to get more info on the jacks, and maybe take a swing at rebuilding one, or at least find out what the exact issues were.
 

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This reminds me of a saga I went through with an old Hein-Werner. I was given an old Hein-Werner 1-1/2 ton jack by a gentleman who had terminal cancer. It was the jack he had used for years in his home shop. He did not want any thing for it, because he had the jack rebuilt a few months prior at the local area "premier" hydraulic shop, brought it home and it promptly leaked on the floor of his pristine shop. The jack had been parked in the corner of his shop since the fluid leak. He thought the jack might be fixable and gave it to me. At the time, I was going to order a Milwaukee Hydraulics jack and I would not have messed with the Hein-Werner, but decided to see about having the leak fixed. The jack still had the nice shiny sticker from the local "premier" hydraulic repair service and they had stamped the jack with a date of the rebuild. I took it back to the original local area "premier" hydraulic shop who had "completely rebuilt" the jack a few months prior (20 miles round trip), explained the situation, and they said they would take a look at it. I called them after a few days to check the status and they informed that the jack was done. I asked what the problem was and they said it just needed rebuilt. ( For the second time in 4 months!) The cost: $220 plus tax! I then asked if it had required numerous replacement parts. No, just a set of seals was the answer. I kept my mouth shut and picked up the jack and took it home. (20 miles round trip). The next day, I was in the garage and noticed a 2" OD spot of oil under the jack. I move the jack over a foot and the next day I have a second 2" spot of oil on the floor. I decide to test over night under load. Now I have a 12" spot on the floor. I call the local "premier" hydraulic repair service and calmly explain what is going on and they say bring it back and they will take a look. (20 miles round trip). I call a couple days later and they tell me the jack is fixed. I go to pick up the jack (20 miles round trip) and the owner of the local "premier" hydraulic repair service comes up to me and explains the reason for the leak. It seems that one of the small cup seals has to pushed past some threads and seal had been damaging by the "new guy" (his words, not mine) when installing. Then the owner acts like he is doing me a favor by saying there would be no charge for this jack's 3rd visit to their "crackerjack" (my words, not his) repair facility in 4 months. He also told me to "spread the word" (his words, not mine) about his "world class" (my words, not his) repair facility. I kept my mouth shut and picked up the jack and took it home. I guess $220 plus tax for a seal kit just gets you the shop flunky these days! Finally a jack that works and does not leak! All that was required was 80 miles of driving, 3 hours of my time, and $220 plus tax. It was a lot of time and money, but I think I owed it to the gentleman who gave me the jack.
 

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What town or City are you in where such "Premier" level of Hydraulic Services is available? Mike in Calgary
 
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Now I know why these companies were taken over by Chinese Companies. Service on My Hein Werner 2 Ton Proesfessional Hydraulic Service Jack is abysmal (unless I do the work myself). My 2-1/4 ton Shurlift Heavy Service Jack and Extended Floor Jack work with no issues and Princess Auto Stands behind siuch jacks (imported from China) with a refund and service policy that guarantees satisfaction. Your experience with the "PREMIER" level of service of Hein-Werner products is not atypical. China is happy to fill the vacuum at a reasonable price. No wonder their market share is growing! Mike
 

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Now I know why these companies were taken over by Chinese Companies. Service on My Hein Werner 2 Ton Proesfessional Hydraulic Service Jack is abysmal (unless I do the work myself). My 2-1/4 ton Shurlift Heavy Service Jack and Extended Floor Jack work with no issues and Princess Auto Stands behind siuch jacks (imported from China) with a refund and service policy that guarantees satisfaction. Your experience with the "PREMIER" level of service of Hein-Werner products is not atypical. China is happy to fill the vacuum at a reasonable price. No wonder their market share is growing! Mike


It wasn't Hein-Werner that fixed his jack. If they had, it would have been done right just as it would have been done right at countless hundreds of shops across the USA. His just happened to be rebuilt at a jackleg shop that did not know what they were doing.

What has almost killed the USA jack industry is the cheap imports from China compared to the prices domestic manufactures have to pay for shop labor, insurance, taxes, cost of goods and a lot more that the Chinese either do not have or get at a lower cost.

Are the jacks just as good? I don't think so and I doubt that you will get many to disagree with that statement. Do they do the job? Yes, for a time they will. The difference lies in the quality and longevity of the jacks.

It all gets back to the age-old import/domestic argument that will never be resolved as everyone is too polarized in his or her opinion.
 

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This is a reasonable, logical post. I agree with it.

It wasn't Hein-Werner that fixed his jack. If they had, it would have been done right just as it would have been done right at countless hundreds of shops across the USA. His just happened to be rebuilt at a jackleg shop that did not know what they were doing.

What has almost killed the USA jack industry is the cheap imports from China compared to the prices domestic manufactures have to pay for shop labor, insurance, taxes, cost of goods and a lot more that the Chinese either do not have or get at a lower cost.

Are the jacks just as good? I don't think so and I doubt that you will get many to disagree with that statement. Do they do the job? Yes, for a time they will. The difference lies in the quality and longevity of the jacks.

It all gets back to the age-old import/domestic argument that will never be resolved as everyone is too polarized in his or her opinion.
 

madamd

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Talking to one of my mechanic friends he said he has several old Hein Warner jacks that he no longer uses because after a trip to Jack Exchange they still leaked. This is a nothing in his shop leaks mechanic, so no leaks has to mean no leaks, not a drop. Should a rebuild kit meet that standard?

I don't know the model numbers, but the shop has been around a good 30 years.

man jack exchange is my jack dealer... i never had to deal w/ their jack services dept... did not realize they are POS since they are authorized distributors for many brands...

where else can socal people go...??
 

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I used to use Kimmerle Brothers in Los Angeles when I lived in Southern California and continued when they moved to Santa Fe Springs. Still located at 12060 Florence. Also have stores in San Francisco and Fresno.

They used to have very knowlegeable and personable behind the counter, but I believe he is retired now. "Chuck??". Hopefully that kind of service still exists.

Anyway, give them a look if you're not happy with Jack-X-Change.
 
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