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orangeracer

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I have picked up an old pratt whitney 13x30 model b lathe and have been trying to find a manual for it with no luck. Dose anyone have a copy or source where one could be downloaded or purchaced? Also I'm trying to decide how I am going to power it any suggestions on VFD vs rotary phase converters vs static phase converters. Thanks
 
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Carla

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Hello, orange,

The place to ask about your P-W would be on the 'antique' section of the Practical Machinist internet board.

Several model B owners have put in queries and comments there, and.....if I remember correctly......such manuals and drawings as are known to exist have been posted there.

I've never owned one of those myself, but have worked on a couple of them......very high quality lathes, to be sure, but one wants to be ever so careful to be certain that the oil pump is getting enough oil up to the gearing on spindle, before running more than 'just on test'.

Your lathe most likely has either a 2 or 3hp 3ph motor. Your motor is most likely a '9-lead' motor, meaning it can be wired for either 220 or 440.

If yours is wired 440, opening up the leads, and re-connecting for 220 is straightforward. (single-voltage 440 motors were a Navy spec, unfortunately.....if you've one of those, have it rewound, as finding a dual-voltage motor of the correct frame dimensions to fit the mounting would be quite difficult.)

Look in the magstarter for the coil voltage. If its a 440 coil, you may have a difficult time finding a 220 replacement coil, and will have to have a 220 coil custom-wound for it. Alternatively, for private shop use, one may simply fit a common drum-switch, with a fused disconnect box on the wall.

A rotary phase convertor is the most practical, cost-effective choice.....you really don't need the variable speed capability of a VFD for any practical use of the machine. Ask in the 'electrical' area of the Practical Machinist board for advice as to the best make to get.

cheers

Carla
 
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Those lathes were bough by Cincinnati milecron.
As of a few years ago they were still supporting them....kind of.
They would make you copies of the manuals if they have them and you could get prints for parts you may need to make

I have that same machine,

Let's see pictures of the lathe

Bob
 
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Doug Arthurs

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If you can replacing the motor with a single phase should be possible. If it has a 3 phase now and you can find a cheap VFD on ebay they are pretty easy to set up.
 

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If you can replacing the motor with a single phase should be possible. If it has a 3 phase now and you can find a cheap VFD on ebay they are pretty easy to set up.

I would rather see you keep the three phase motor and use a VFD.
That late does not have that many speeds, being able,to adjust the speed of the motor will be nice
Plus I always prefer to run three phase motors over single phase.
My lathe of the same model has a 3hp motor in it. The VFD means keeping that motor and gaining reverse

Bob
 
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orangeracer

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Here is a couple pictures of the lathe. I have done some looking at the vfd on ebay but am unsure how to go about selecting the correct one. Has anyone used the off brand vfd selling for around 100 on ebay? Are they alright? My motor is a 2 hp the tag shows it was a 440volt motor but has been changed to 220
 

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