Old Machinist Tool ID help please.

[ssffnomad]

Info: John M. O'Connell, Born July 01,1863.
Toolmaker @ Barney&Smith, Mfg of Railroad Cars, Dayton ,Ohio.
Was told he made Box w/ 1" False Bottom.

 

[ssffnomad]

 

[woody 73]

Very nice tools be sure and wipe them down with an old oil rag. Some of the tools that you have are called outside calipers; I use mine all the time but not as you might think (a machinist would take measurements on his parts that he is turning), but rather I use mine to figure the bowl thickness on my wood lathe.

 

[ssffnomad]

Yes they need to be cleaned and oiled. Thanks

 

[930dreamer]

Tell us more, did you buy this collection?

 

[ssffnomad]

L.S. Starrett Co. Athol, Mass.
The Billings & spencer Co. Hartford, Conn.
P. Lowentrau. Newark, N.J.
Master Rule Mfg Co. Inc. N.Y.C.
Goodell-Pratt Co. Greenfield, Mass.
Luftkin Rule Saginaw, Mich.
The L.S.S. Co. Athol, Mass.
G.T.&D. Corp Greenfield, Mass.
B&S Mfg Co. Prov, R.I.
Moore Drop Forge Co. Springfield, Mass.
Defiance by Stanley U.S.A.

 

[2mJps]

I can look at old tool boxes like this for hours new tools not so much.

 

[zkling]

What do you want to know about them specifically?

I always enjoy when people purchase tools and they don't know what they are

I spy with my eye...

A wooden box
A file card
A few outside calipers
A few inside calibers
A divider
A reamer
Three tap wrenches
Three lathe dogs
A combination square with centering tool
A depth micrometer
A go / no go plug gauge
A folding ruler
A punch
A few chisles
A lathe tool bit holder
A monkey wrench
A modern pen
A piece of paper
A wooden table
A hex key

 

[crewchief888]

Yes they need to be cleaned and oiled. Thanks

the 3 tools that look like bearing splitters, right side, and center of the pic are old lathe dogs.
used to clamp round stock for turning in a lathe using a face plate istead of a 3 or 4 jaw chuck

 

[jeffmoss26]

I am jealous. Great finds!!

 

[Outlawmws]

You have some woodworking tools mixed in with the machinists tools. a couple of wood chisels without handles, and a try square (which could be for wood or may have been precision for layout work),

The center finder (Vee shaped tool ) and the combination square may have been part of a set, or may not... are they the same brand?

The adjustable wrench is an "auto" wrench, not a Monkey wrench. does it have a script Ford on it? Many came with model T's

 

[ssffnomad]

Thanks for replies, i was trying to post between Coats of Paint. Could not keep up. Box/Tools where a gift to me. Not for sale.
I know what a Table and Pen are. My Dad was a Union Machinist for 39 years, put Food on our Table. IP Mill shut down, jobs gone. He has not had a chance to view yet.
"Outlaw" i am at work , will check tomorrow. What age would you put on these Collection ? Think it fits age of Gentleman mentioned above ?
Thank You

 

[Outlawmws]

Thanks for replies, i was trying to post between Coats of Paint. Could not keep up. Box/Tools where a gift to me. Not for sale.
I know what a Table and Pen are. My Dad was a Union Machinist for 39 years, put Food on our Table. IP Mill shut down, jobs gone. He has not had a chance to view yet.
"Outlaw" i am at work , will check tomorrow. What age would you put on these Collection ? Think it fits age of Gentleman mentioned above ?
Thank You

Mostly sounds about right. Some could have been hand-me-downs from his father also

 

[Carla]

The devices which 'look like bearing splitters' are 'clamp dogs' used for driving workpieces between centres in a lathe. Two are commercially made ones, most likely marked either 'Armstrong', 'Williams' or 'Billings', and the small one appears to be shop made.

Two of the tap wrenches are likely shop-made, as well.

As was mentioned earlier, the 'monkey wrench' is Ford style, and may be Ford script marked. The square tip on the handle was used to turn the level/drain plugs on the gearbox and back axle housing.

cheers

Carla

 

[justanengineer]

Looking at it overall, you have some "turn of the/early 20th century" tools, but dating them is rather difficult. If youre really curious I would suggest inquiring over on practicalmachinist. My gut feeling is that unless the man was wealthy the tools were purchased later in life (early 20th century) and not used much in his working career judging by the given birth year. Realistically, during the time he was in his "prime," most of railroad mechanics/machinists/toolmakers made most of their own tools...Walter Chrysler's box and tools being a great example similar to this one (google is your friend). The box looks correct for the lathe 1800s time period and being DIY really isnt uncommon - it used to be very common for toolmakers to make their own boxes as a sign of pride (not cheapness), along with most of their own tools. Irregardless of "originality," you found a great box with a ton of history and some early tools.

If you have any questions about what specific items are for dont hesitate to ask. I will disagree with others and say I believe they are all metalworking tools unless my eyes are deceiving, the "wood chisels" likely being scrapers.

Out of curiosity, what tool is by Goodell-Pratt? I have one of their lil "toy" lathes without any accessories and missing a few parts in my long line of projects and being that the company is rather obscure/tiny/long gone....I definitely notice the name.

 

[ssffnomad]

Outlaw. Center Finder - no name. 4" Combo Square - The L.S..S. Co. Carla. Auto Wrench - Moore Drop Forge Co. SPFLD Mass. Justanengineer. Goodell-Pratt tool is 3 3/4" fixed square - no numbers.

 

[ssffnomad]

On the Auto Wrench; I missed Ford name. I want to thank all for Replies/Help. Now I have to start pecking away with Cleaning and Oiling

 

[Nelson58]

Carb cleaner or simple green removes the grease, murphy's oil soap on the wood case, evaporust on any rusted tools.


Nelson