Old metal lathe identity?

[stephen4785]

A friend of mine texted me about an old lathe his neighbor wanted to sell. I bought it sight unseen for $150. He texted me these pics and I cant figure out what brand/model it is from the pics. Is anyone able to figure out what it is? The motor drive on top is something Iv never seen in that configuration.

 

[Doug Arthurs]

Can't help with identifying but the gearbox looks like a multi-speed gearbox used to convert line shaft equipment to electrical motor drive.

 

[930dreamer]

We need more pics for a better ID.

 

[454ragtop]

Old line shaft lathe converted to electric motor. Looks like a Drive-All gear box http://www.driveallmfg.com/ Probably some tags or cast in lettering on it somewhere.

 

[JHuston]

The "T" slots above the apron might be enough to identify it; have you looked on VintageMachinery.org ? That's where I would start.

The oilers and handwheels/knobs are very much turn of the century or earlier. For 150.00, you really can't go wrong, but if you can find the change gears and any tooling ( It may be in the cardboard box in the photo) you may wind up with a perfectly useable lathe. Someone has already gone to the trouble of figuring out a drive system that doesn't require a lineshaft, which is a big hurdle with a lathe that old.
I've completely rebuilt probably a half dozen older metal lathes, including my baby, a 14" Mulliner Enlund from about 1919. Even a worn out lathe can do decent work once you are familiar with it and learn to play to its strengths. Clean it up as best you can, lubricate everything, and try it out.Get a feel for it and what it can do- it may be all the lathe you need.

-James Huston

 

[stephen4785]

The "T" slots above the apron might be enough to identify it; have you looked on VintageMachinery.org ? That's where I would start.

The oilers and handwheels/knobs are very much turn of the century or earlier. For 150.00, you really can't go wrong, but if you can find the change gears and any tooling ( It may be in the cardboard box in the photo) you may wind up with a perfectly useable lathe. Someone has already gone to the trouble of figuring out a drive system that doesn't require a lineshaft, which is a big hurdle with a lathe that old.
I've completely rebuilt probably a half dozen older metal lathes, including my baby, a 14" Mulliner Enlund from about 1919. Even a worn out lathe can do decent work once you are familiar with it and learn to play to its strengths. Clean it up as best you can, lubricate everything, and try it out.Get a feel for it and what it can do- it may be all the lathe you need.

-James Huston

I think it would be cool to have in the shop. probably not the most practical but I love the way it looks and the setup. And like you said, for $150 I cant go wrong. I also think restoring it will make some good YouTube videos. Ill have some more pics as soon as I go get it. Im in the process of moving so itll be a few weeks.
I really like that gear box on top. iv never seen one like that and the fact that the handle have that vintage industrial look is awesome.

 

[stephen4785]

I messed up the link for this picutre. Here's the only other picture I have for now.

 

[Packard V8]

Yes, I'd give $150 and consider it a gift.

jack vines

 

[Maui]

If you decide to partially disassemble the lathe to move it (which is highly recommended)be careful when removing that overhead gear box. It will be surprisingly heavy.

That could possibly be an early Sebastian lathe.

Maui

 

[stephen4785]

I think I found it. Carrol Jamieson.
Anyone ever heard of them?http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Lathe/Thumbnails.html

 

[stephen4785]

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=6166

 

[JHuston]

One thing I see is that the gear train from the gear on the head stock to the gear box ( which appears to be a quick change , which is a plus) appears to be missing. Definitely dig around for the parts, especially anything that looks like gearing. It's possible to figure out the gear sizes, buy stock gears and machine them to fit ( after all, you do have a lathe), but it'll make life easier if you can find them. My Mulliner needed a few gears replaced due to a gruesome crash at some point in the past 90 years; I had everything done with one phone call and a few hours of work.

For the average person, a properly set up 100 year old lathe will do everything needed. If you plan on making, say, model steam engines, it'll show some deficiencies .

-James Huston

 

[Bob P1]

Wow, that is an oldie. Practical machinist site may help in iding it.