Old plumbing trap

[Karl_B]

Howdy, folks!

I haven't been terribly active here for a while, but I had a request that I thought the GJ hive-mind could help with.

I'm trying to find some sort of picture or illustration to explain how this drain is incorrectly plumbed. It looks like the installer removed a cleanout plug, and attached the drain there, then tried to crimp the actual drain pipe shut. It's leaking from that attempt at a crimp.

If I had to guess where this thing came from, I would say an old French farmhouse or such. It's the style they like for fixtures and furniture and they import it for that use.

 

[nmk_61802]

Howdy, folks!

I haven't been terribly active here for a while, but I had a request that I thought the GJ hive-mind could help with.

I'm trying to find some sort of picture or illustration to explain how this drain is incorrectly plumbed. It looks like the installer removed a cleanout plug, and attached the drain there, then tried to crimp the actual drain pipe shut. It's leaking from that attempt at a crimp.

If I had to guess where this thing came from, I would say an old French farmhouse or such. It's the style they like for fixtures and furniture and they import it for that use.

Looks like an older version of a Drum Trap:

https://www.google.com/search?q=dru...CA&bih=1040&biw=1920&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS949US949

Its incorrectly plumbed because its leaking. If he had used the correct port, it would have also been incorrectly plumbed because it would have been double trapped.

Can the basket be replaced with a standard basket and tail piece?

 

[rlitman]

It's a bottle trap. I'm not familiar with that flange on a trap, but it looks a lot like a pump flange.

Yes, he's bypassing the bottle trap by draining from the cleanout. I see a trap under that, so at least it isn't double trapped.

If it were me, I'd take off the second flange, cut a flat sheet of plastic and another of a gasket material (cork or rubber would do), put them between the flanges and bolt the flanges back together.

 

[The Cobbler]

yes, an old bottle trap. what is it draining? what size is the drain on the appliance that it's draining? I would want to get rid of all that old stuff & replace it all. also you have copper tied to galvanized... potential for a leak from electrolysis from dissimilar metals
the galvanized looks new, or has it been painted ?

 

[Karl_B]

My best guess is that copper pipe was salvaged and the galvanized fittings were new. I pointed out all the problems with that, too, but it's not my property to fix. I'm just giving a heads up as to what's wrong and what their new plumber should do.

I haven't had much luck with the picture thing, but I guess I could do a rough edit to the picture and just use that.

 

[claymont]

My best guess is that copper pipe was salvaged and the galvanized fittings were new. I pointed out all the problems with that, too, but it's not my property to fix. I'm just giving a heads up as to what's wrong and what their new plumber should do.

If he has a plumber, why not let the plumber decide what to do? Do you think a plumber is going to just fix that stuff? If it's leaking out of that side outlet, there's a blockage somewhere in that drain line.