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r_olson_06

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Just wondering what you guys use to clean up them older wrenches and the sockets. I hear some people using wire wheel, some using chemicals, and some using electrolysis. Willing to hear your input especially on the inside of the socket walls.
 
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chrisziem

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I brush off tools then place them in a coffee can full of atf. Next you pull them out a few days later, drain them in a pan and rub them with a rag.

Bottle brushes for insides!
 

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i like to soak them in vinegar and after a day or two (depending on how bad they are) I scrub them with wire brush and wash and then immediately rub with an oily rag.

sometimes i will hit them in the media cabinet at work and then a little clean up on the wire wheel.
 

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I soak mine in a mixture of unicorn sweat, wolverine dandruff, and grain alcohol.
Only takes a couple minutes, and tastes great over shaved ice after your tools are clean.
 

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This was just recently done (actually 2X over) in the past couple of weeks. here is my (now canned) answer:

Rust and cleaning tools
Somewhat depends on if you are talking rust removal or grease removal. If it’s both, get the grease off first so you don’t mess up the de-rusting solutions.

For grease I’ll use Simple Green generally, sometimes my solvent tank, sometimes just paint thinner (Mineral Spirits), but that leaves a slight oily residue. If you want NO oily residue, use white gas/Naphtha

I use vinegar on plated parts as Electrolysis and other methods will quickly strip plating off. So will vinegar, but not quickly. I've only had one bad experience with a plated tool and frankly its plating was dying anyway. However, given time vinegar WILL damage or remove the plating.

Apple cider Vinegar is reputed to be stronger; I have yet to test that out myself.

I class Vinegar as only one of many ways to remove rust:

My rust removal repertoire in most used order:

Electrolysis
Fine wire wheel/brass wire wheel
Vinegar
Molasses dilution (About 10/1; slow but amazing results given time)


For paint prep and final oxidation removal for iron/steel parts: Phosphoric acid (Jasco Metal etch)

For plated parts:
SOS (NOT Brillo!) pad (with soap, if the soap is gone, toss it.
Oil and 0000 steel wool (The oil keeps it from scratching the chrome)
Vinegar


Evaporust is supposed to do a great job without damaging paint or plating, but is expensive. I have not yet used it.
 

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I hate what any of the blaster medias do to the finish/patina of tools, and don't even consider it for plated tools...

Lovin the word "patina", I just soak them in ATF usually, sometimes for a week or two, I find the wire wheel works ok for things that have a black oxide finish to begin with, but not chrome. Im also not as picky as a lot of fellows using electrolysis.
 

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You guys should try Citric Acid. Its used very regularly in the Coleman Lantern scene, to restore old plated lanterns.

So were do you find citric acid you say... well it happens to be one of the main ingredients in cool-aid. I personally get the Wallmart brand. Its super cheap and works extremely well. Just mix in water, adjust ratio to whatever strength you want. Also works a little better if water is hot or at least warm, but not necessary.

OHH one note, get the lemon flavored one unless you like pink, purple or green tools!!! LOL
 
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Brad54

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I've got a 5-gallon bucket of molasses out in front of the shop... it's great. Throw them in, pull them out a week or two later and all rust is gone.
Wash with hot water and a brush, "dry" with carb cleaner (it's fast and prevents flash rusting).

I've had this bucket out there since February or March, and just keep topping off the water that evaporates out. I've thrown a continues stream of tools and small car parts into it over the last four or five months.
Don't cover it... it'll ferment and smell like an open sewer.

-Brad
 

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A guy I've traded tools with turned me on to salt and vinegar bath. I have about a pound of salt and about 3 gallons of vinegar in a five gallon bucket. Drop them in there overnight, and they clean right up when you pull them out. Little buff with some fine steel wool and they are good as new.

I quickly dry them off and spray them with WD40
 
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rick carpenter

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I never have cared for a polished-like-new old tool. I like a light vinegar soak or wd40 and hit them with a dremel fiber(?) polish wheel and/or 4-0 steel wool; I clean the plastic handles with mild cleanser or do a half-a$$ed strip job on wood handles and treat them with BLO/kerosene; oil/grease 'em; and I'm done. I like to leave as much patina on old tools as possible.
 

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You guys should try Citric Acid. Its used very regularly in the Coleman Lantern scene, to restore old plated lanterns.

So were do you find citric acid you say... well it happens to be one of the main ingredients in cool-aid. I personally get the Wallmart brand. Its super cheap and works extremely well. Just mix in water, adjust ratio to whatever strength you want. Also works a little better if water is hot or at least warm, but not necessary.

OHH one note, get the lemon flavored one unless you like pink, purple or green tools!!! LOL

What ratio?
 

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I guess I'm behind the times with the molasses and bead blaster.
I use WD-40 and an old towel. Stops & removes rust, and does not appear to hurt the finish. ]

Maybe I'll try shave ice... :lol_hitti
 

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Don't wire wheel or blast anything with a cadmium plate on it!

That would go for Electrolysis as well for cadmium, or any type of plating for that matter...

No wire wheel? Afraid of it gripping the platting and ripping it off? Or is there another reason I don't know?

You don't want to be doing any wire wheeling on Cadmium plating as you will get the stuff airborne and in an inhale-able state. (Serious health hazard...) even chrome plating I don't like to wire wheel other than very gently with a fine brass wheel, and even then it's a last resort as you can still damage the plating, even if there is not the health hazards that Cad has with wire wheeling.

Besides all the potential health hazards, all of these methods will either remove or likely damage the plating which you don't want to be doing.
 

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When I get a bunch of older tools with no plating, I plan to beadblast them clean and reparkerize them, so they would have some new looks and some new resistance to corrosion. The plated ones, just clean as best as I can and use em.
 

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Coleman Lantern scene??

I didn't know there was such a thing! I recently got 3 lanterns of various ages and need to go thru them. Can you recommend a site or forum with good info??

Thanks,

z


I go here:
http://colemancollectorsforum.websitetoolbox.com/

And


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And once you have started on lanterns, then the next step is stoves...

OOHH dear lord, this is the gods honest truth here.:thumbup:

I have like 80+ lanterns and 40+ stoves and 1 very good wife LOL:rocker:
 

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I use a Scotchbrite wheel on my 6" bench grinder. I use two different wheels, a thin one and a wide one . The wider wheel is much better for cleaning up old tools as its a bit softer.
 

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Weeeellllllll...... at the moment I only have the two stoves....


zuk

Until you see the cool one burner brass stoves that people play with:


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Or:


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But I'm not adding fuel to the fire! Not me!


:3gears:
 

madbasser

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Until you see the cool one burner brass stoves that people play with:


Primus%2045.jpg



Or:


Optimus+8R+side+view.JPG



But I'm not adding fuel to the fire! Not me!


:3gears:

:spit::eyecrazy:


Outlaw you are NOT nice!!! Those Primus Optimus backpackers stoves are absolutely irresistible :willy_nil:willy_nil :bowdown:

They run on ANY type of fuel, anywhere man can place a step. Absolute perfection for any adventurer.
No pumping, no canisters, indestructible and fits in the side pocket of a backpack.

:scared:

Wait whats the OG topic, oh yeah Kool-aid AKA citric acid.
just make sure you use the lemon-aid one, no one wants a pink Snappy combo wrench right??
 

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I soak mine in a mixture of unicorn sweat, wolverine dandruff, and grain alcohol.
Only takes a couple minutes, and tastes great over shaved ice after your tools are clean.

My Mother was a horrible cook (sorry Mom) if ever you dropped a socket into her stew pot it would come out brand new! Don't ask Don't tell...

I just use a dremel brass wire wheel inside the sockets and it does the trick; but then again see back-up plan #1.
 

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Citric acid : its available pure on ebay. I bought 3lb for 12 dollars. If you have a super market that has canning supplies, pure citric acid is available for around 4 dollars a pound. My girlfriend and I make dehydrated foodstuffs as well as pickles.. Last week we did 5 full pineapples and now they all fit in a single quart zip lock bag. But dehydrated pineapple is the best tasting fruit IMO.

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