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Old Vise, looking for information

mcgyverit

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Came accross this Vise that my brother acquired recently while outfitting his new shop. cannot find any type of markings on it to help identify age or type, but thought it was really cool.

the jaw is quick adjust in and out, and then once "hand tight", pull the lever on the side to tighten it up. uses a serated teeth to pull tighter.

never seen anything like it, but it is definately cool.











 
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bigcaddy

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Its a Stephens and one of the largest I've seen before. I've only seen them with 2" jaws and are usually nickel plated. If you refinished the vise, take a look on the back end of the dynamic jaw slide. That is where Stephens usually marked their vises.

They got patents for that vise sometime around 1864 through 1870. Considering the age, its in extremely nice condition. DO you have any dimensions for it?
 
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mcgyverit

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Bigcaddy, thanks for the information. the dimensions i got were about 24" overall lentgh at the widest opening, throat opening is about 9" and the jaws are 5.5" wide.
 

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We started digging further into it today and it is a really cool old vise! The inner workings are very interesting. I'm planning on taking some pics tomorrow of the operating mechanisms.
 

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Looking forward to the disassembled photos because that is a very stout looking and unusual vise. I really like the heavy duty swivel lock-down.
 
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Wow, what a beast! :shocking:

Definitely get more pictures, I'd love to see the innards on that thing in more detail. Wicked cool! :thumbup:
 
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mcgyverit

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We looked at it the other day per bigcaddy's suggestion, and there are some marks on it, but really cannot make anything out. It came with the work table it is attached to, not sure what the plans are at this point as he is in the process of moving into a new fab shop, that is the main priority for him right now so he can start making some coin.
 

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Forgot the camera today unfortunately BUT the vise will definitely be taken back apart for a good "restoration".

Forgive me if I don't know all of the proper terms for parts of a vise. Up until now, I just used em, never really been all that interested in them other than knowing when they sucked or were good to work with ;)

It's seen some mods over the years. The body around the pin for the handle broke out at some point and someone brazed on ~1/2 plate on top for the arm pin to sit in. This aparently led to very weak clamping in the first 2 inches as the pin was now ~1/2" higher than designed. We tore it apart thinking that the serations were worn but upon cleaning them out they looked almost brand new... just filled with gunk. There's 4 pieces internally, an actuation cam that is pushed by the lever arm, a 1.75 rounded cast flat stock piece that transfers the load to the clamp that has serations that match the ones on the traveling jaw. There's also a piece of spring steel bolted in that pushes the clamp back to allow the traveling jaw to slide.

Unfortunately, the main mount for the swivel assembly was lengthened at some point and is a little crooked. Once you tighten it down, it pulls the vise a little crooked. The adjuster "wing nut" had been cranked on at some point and broken off. The repair is strong but poorly aligned.

We determined that the flat piece in the middle had worn down some over the years and rather than build that up, previous owners took to adding material to the cam... poorly I might add. One repair added material to the wear point for the lever. Another added 3 globby welds to the inside of the cam where the flat piece sits in a groove. All of that was cleaned up and material added to the flat piece.

Put it all back together and now we have clamping action the full range of the jaw travel!

Dunno if it's going to get any use, but it'll definitely be getting some attention in the future!
 

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Well, we have to move our shop and this never did get the attention it deserves.

No idea what it's worth, but if you're local to St. Louis, feel free to make an offerhttps://scontent-ord1-1.**.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13083373_10207339046889427_8544927231237493515_n.jpg?oh=906bfdbe26134db99068a21c246d0c40&oe=57B6EDE2

314-302-3395 (text for pics if that ^^^ didn't work) or [email protected]
 
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