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old wood boiler.....boiler guru needed.........

mx842

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I just got my hands on an old wood stove that has a boiler sitting on top of it and was wondering if anyone has ever seen or owned one of these type stoves. There are a few pieces that are missing that I know I'll need before I fire it up and I need to get some information on it but I can't seem to find anything on it at all. It has PEBBCO on the plate along with a bunch of other stuff and I contacted Pebbco about it but I'm still waiting for them to get back. I've searched their site and they don't have anything like this anywhere. Everything they have is oil or gas fired.

I don't have any pics right now but I can get some if it would help.
 
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Ok, I managed to take a few pics of the stove to show what I have to work with.
 

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Does the entire firebox have a water jacket around it or is it just that barrel sitting on top?

The piece on top has boiler tubes inside for the smoke to leave the firebox as the heat rises through the tubes it heats the water that surrounds the tubes. I think it holds 30 gals of water but my plan is to add a 100 gal holding tank that is well insulated to store heated water so I don't have to keep the stove fired 24/7. My hope is that once the floor is heated up I won't have to fire the boiler but every other day through most of our winters but I may have to keep it going for a couple weeks out of the season for when we get those real cold days and nights we get in late Dec. and Jan.

I already have my manifold system setup in the building all I need is a temp control and a circulation pump for that to be ready to go. I know I will need some kind of safety device/pressure switch to keep the thing from blowing up and probably an additional transfer pump at the stove or holding tank to supply the manifold. I want to keep this simple so I'll probably go with a open system rather than a closed system and use captured rain wain water to supply the unit. I 'll probably have a 40 gal electric water heater hooked into the line just in case something happens to the boiler or I am just to lazy or can't for some reason fire the boiler or keep it going for a day or two.

So what do you guys think? Does this sound doable?
 

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It sounds like it will work, I would see what the pressure rating is on the wood fired vessel and size a safety relief valve with the correct capacity for the vessel. Unlike a gas fired boiler you will not be able to reduce the amount of heat once you reach operating pressure.
 

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After thinking about this for a while, I would set up the electric water heater so that your if your water temerature gets to low that it will turn on, also have a flow switch in the controls so that you dont freeze the water in your floor if the fire goes out or the pump stops. The other way around is is to run a glycol solution and make it a closed loop. I have done this in the past using an expansion tank and air eliminators at the high points of the system.
 
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After thinking about this for a while, I would set up the electric water heater so that your if your water temerature gets to low that it will turn on, also have a flow switch in the controls so that you dont freeze the water in your floor if the fire goes out or the pump stops. The other way around is is to run a glycol solution and make it a closed loop. I have done this in the past using an expansion tank and air eliminators at the high points of the system.

Yes, that was what I was thinking with regard to the electric heater to have it come in if I'm too lazy to fire the unit. I'm not too worried that the floor would ever freeze hard enough to bust the pex because the winters here are not that hard. I'm not saying it could never happen but it is highly unlikely and if there was ever a case that for some reason the electric went out and I couldn't keep the stove running I have it set up where I can blow the water out of the floor tubes and drain the water heater.

I was only thinking that a open system may be safer and easier to set up. Also I was thinking that I could capture rain water to use in the system because it should be cleaner and free of all the junk that is in the well water here. I don't know for a fact but I was thinking it would be a little easier on the medal inside the water jacket of the boiler.

My manifold system has air eliminators but I would have to add one to the water heater because it is going to be above the manifold setup. It is going to be sitting over top of an office space that houses the manifold. I plan on putting an expansion tank at the electric heater with an additional air eliminator there also.
 

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Sounds like a good project, will you have a way to make up water if it is lost? Well water contains magnesium and calcuim which percipitates out of the water and causes scaling on the boiler tubes if the temperture is high enough. But in a heating system you should never reach a high enough temperture to cause much scaling.
 
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