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Older Craftsman ratchets

KEH

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I really liked the pushbutton Cman ratchets when they first came out. Later I remember the patent dispute between Sears and the inventor. It dragged out for a long time and was finally settled in the inventors favor. My comment at the time was that Sears was stupid for not settling the case in sucha a way as to get the right to continue production of their ratchets instead of having to replace them with an inferior design which they are still using.

My question is, what happened to the older design? Is some maker still producing it?

KEH
 
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http://garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=725192&postcount=48

Other than being a Craftsman guy I happened to interview with the Sears legal department in 1981 in San Francsico and the lawsuit was still going on. The attorney I interviewed with called Mr. Roberts "Mr. Ratchet."

If you do a google search for Peter M. Robers you will find a lot of info. He finally did collect his money.

One of the misnomers is that Sears stole his quick release design. This is not true. He came up with a design but his patent application was rejected. Sears hired a patent attorney for him and it was granted, and then he assigned the patent rights to Sears for almost nothing. I forget the number. Something like $5,000. But I guess that was a lot of money back then and I think he was 19 years old. Check google for the exact facts.

The problem for Sears was that they lied to him. Sears told him his patent was worth almost nothing because there was no market for his quick release designs. While Sears was telling him his invention was worth little, Sears had done studies that indicated a ratchet with a quick release would be a big seller. And then Sears went on to sell millions of quick release ratchets with his patented design, that had been assigned to Sears.

So his first lawsuit was to get the profits made off of his patented design, a patent that he sold to Sears, because Sears told him the patent had little monetary value. He waited a long time because I think google says he went into the Air Force, and he is a little guy against Sears.

Mr. Roberts is still alive and still inventing.
 
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Joe B.

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That patent has to be expired by now. I'm sure anyone could use it if they liked.
 
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Derek420

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I have a ratchet like that and I like it I believe it also has a thumb wheel on the bottom side also kinda hard to find these days. I got mine for $1 at the pawn shop along with a 1/2 quick release ,1/2 long flex, and 1/4 Q R that looks different has a piece of metal around the square and a different Q R all for 5 bucks.
 
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