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SFA company product, same company that owns Blackhawk, Hein Werner, Pro lift and a bunch more. Made in China.
 

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Oh Hell No at $607.. nuff said

But if you need more, it’s a Single pump quick lift, Stick to the Dual pump units that are running rampant in 2021. I have no problem with Shinn fu, but they are lagging behind in some departments.
 

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Oh Hell No at $607.. nuff said

But if you need more, it’s a Single pump quick lift, Stick to the Dual pump units that are running rampant in 2021. I have no problem with Shinn fu, but they are lagging behind in some departments.

@Hiball, re: single pump quick lift (usually labeled as magic lift) that Omega (Shinn Fu) uses, is it the o rings on the small internal quick lift cylinder that is the weak spot?

I do believe that Omega has a few dual pump jacks in their lineup. I think they call those the “dual fast action pistons”.
 
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@Hiball, re: single pump quick lift (usually labeled as magic lift) that Omega (Shinn Fu) uses, is it the o rings on the small internal quick lift cylinder that is the weak spot?

I do believe that Omega has a few dual pump jacks in their lineup. I think they call those the “dual fast action pistons”.

IMO in regards to today’s import jacks, twin pumps > Single in regards to “quick lift” models. It’s not only the small orings on the tube, It’s the base Orings also. Don’t get me wrong.. It’s a Good design and has proven reliability across numerous platforms including Napa, Michelin branded jacks etc, but I feel the twin pump models with verifiable Ucups are superior.

Less is more.
 
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Just to clarify to others what I was asking Hiball. The “base o rings“ are not the same seal as the o ring/plastic retainer seal found on the main ram on other jack brands that has longevity problems. The Omega 27036 jack does use a U cup on the main piston ram. These o rings are in a different place... a location that adds an extra annoying step to do a rebuild.


By the way, same jack here at half the price... (you should also price compare to your local hydraulic shop.)

https://www.tooldiscounter.com/prod...Iyebuqti58QIVtyCtBh1oQQnBEAQYASABEgIpZfD_BwEw

I wouldn’t say the single pump quick lift jacks have any longevity issues pertaining to the design. Again, I’m only talking about the quick lift function. I’ve talked to multiple customers who have gotten good service from the Sam’s club Michelin jacks/Napa etc. where things started going downhill is when they started cheaping out on the seals with the design.

Clarity on how the Single pump piston jacks utilize quick lift, speedy lift or Magic lift depending on marketing versus the twin pump versions for anyone not familiar.

Single pump, The Jack carries a tube that runs perpendicular to the cylinder and inside the Main Ram. When it’s not under load, the valve sends oil towards the tube and due to its small diameter it increases the stroke, thus gives you a fast lift. At the same time the Vaccum created by the main ram extending pulls oil into main cylinder. Once the lift arm reaches a load the pressure increases to lift the speed side valve and force oil into the main cylinder (Power). The problem is, On some of the cheaper models, either the quick lift tube Seals fail or the Main ram seal doesn’t pull enough vacuum to keep up with the stroke, and then things get crappy quick.

The twin pump units work both sides at the same time, the speed side piston is larger to push more oil, thus transfers more oil = More stroke. Once load is reached, Pressure increases and lifts the speed side valve and bypasses to allow only the power side to work alone. Like most equipment, reliability comes from less working parts. The single pump jacks can be made reliable as I stated earlier, but it takes a manufacturer to request solid components during the build. I think with most manufacturers going to the twin pump setup and utilizing Ucups all around it’s a better system.


Hope this Helps.

@ajchien Only referring to the single versus dual pump setup, the only thing that can be added in regards to Ucups versus Oring retainer on the Main ram piston seals is that Ucups create more wall pressure and pull more consistent vacuum versus the Oring retainers on the single pump models. This becomes very important when oil conditions are poor due to contaminates etc.
 
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Well I got one for about $20. Honestly it looks super flimsy for a 3-1/2 ton jack, but hey it was almost free. I was curious what others thought of them.

No wayy would I pay $600 for such a jack. They'd be overpriced at half that.
 

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Well I got one for about $20. Honestly it looks super flimsy for a 3-1/2 ton jack, but hey it was almost free. I was curious what others thought of them.

No wayy would I pay $600 for such a jack. They'd be overpriced at half that.

I‘d say that $20 is a really good deal for that jack in working condition. Omega is Shinn Fu’s top import line, their market being industrial users, not the home mechanic. IMHO, I think of the Shinn Fu lineup is tiered like: Hein Werner > Omega > Blackhawk/Banner > Pro-Lift. As noted by Hiball above, they have been rebranded as NAPA, Michelin, and maybe(?) some older craftsman ones too.

Thing is, Hein Werner has no aluminum or low profile offerings. And their dual pump quick lift is only in the Hein Werner long chassis 4+ ton jacks. So if you’re looking for a top end Shinn Fu product that is aluminum, low profile, and quick lift it’s going to be in the Omega line. What’s interesting is that they offer both (more) a single pump quick lift and (fewer) dual pump quick lift jacks.
 
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Really? Maybe it's just the comparison with the old Walker jack I'm still struggling to rebuild, but the metal sides look too thin, the welds look hastily done, and the casters look underbuilt.

I did get another one as part of the deal for another $20, and it had been loaded to the point that the base of the ram pushed back and turned the metal sides into a gentle hourglass shape. I could theoretically bend it back into shape, but I'd hate to trust it with anything important after that.

I'd call it an excellent 1.5 ton jack. I'd be scared to put 7000 lbs on it, but that could just be me.
 

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Really? Maybe it's just the comparison with the old Walker jack I'm still struggling to rebuild, but the metal sides look too thin, the welds look hastily done, and the casters look underbuilt.

I did get another one as part of the deal for another $20, and it had been loaded to the point that the base of the ram pushed back and turned the metal sides into a gentle hourglass shape. I could theoretically bend it back into shape, but I'd hate to trust it with anything important after that.

I'd call it an excellent 1.5 ton jack. I'd be scared to put 7000 lbs on it, but that could just be me.

No doubt a 1.5 ton vintage Walker frame is bigger and heavier than most current day import jacks. You don’t buy a Walker/Lincoln/Hein Werner for a lightweight frame. You buy a Walker/Lincoln/Hein Werner partly because the frame is a brute. Regarding putting 7000 lbs on the Walker - remember there is an overload bypass in the jack (hopefully set correctly). If the load you’re trying to lift is higher than its rating, it will simply cycle the oil from the reservoir to the pump and back to the reservoir, with no lift of the load. It is a safety feature to avoid blowing out seals/damaging the frame.

I’ve got no idea what to think about your second Omega with the bent hourglass frame. I’ve only seen jacks frames get bent when there was a significant mishap (aka those ******* learning moments) that occurred, such as a jack tipping over when loaded.
 
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