On the Snap-On Truck

[Partsguy57]

My work needs a good parts guy.... But they don’t want to pay for one...

I know... one of the reasons I got out.. dollars not there to pay for the skill level required. Had to choose between doing most or paying out in wages to others. Hiring cheap just created more headaches. Worked like the devil for 15 years sold and rolled dollars in other things..

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[Partsguy57]

In n out burger /old folks home its all the same once the meds kick in.

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Watch it now!!!! Are you trying to spoil my lunch?

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[Partsguy57]

Unfortunately, that's the way it's been trending. My pay has been the same for 10 years now. I actually made more in the late 90's and early 2000's. It makes no sense financially for a younger guy to get in this business now. But for an older guy like me, I can stick it out for a few more years and then get out.

Yep I got out in 02... saw the handwriting on the wall with the rise of cheap, the internet, lack of talent coming into the automotive field,( driven by low pay) the death of three step distribution and other factors. Not being negative about it as it's the cycle of business and things change.. I can see a time coming again as skilled labor is becoming a problem in many fields and I think the pendulum will swing the other way.

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[Shane6377]

Do you enjoy blowing that **** out your *** or are you that jealous of snap on. I dont know anyone that's got $100k in tools that isnt a business owner, also dont know anyone that looks down on people not using truck brand tools.



To say people using tools for a living is low skill shows the stupidity in your opinions, I suppose to you all we do is just what a computer tells us to.

The $100k figure came from post 113 that I quoted.

Reread my post. I didn't say anyone using a tool to make a living is low skill. I said a mechanic job is no longer considered high-skill. I'm not taking a jab at anyone. That's a fact - it's a medium or semi-skilled vocation.

In my experience a lot of mechanics are insecure because they feel looked down upon by someone in a high-skill vocation like a doctor or lawyer. The decrease in pay in the industry further compounds this.


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[Shane6377]

Lol now you went and did it... that no skill comment is going to generate a lot of "love" cheers and good luck

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Again... never said no skill. You only read what you want.


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[Partsguy57]

The $100k figure came from post 113 that I quoted.

Reread my post. I didn't say anyone using a tool to make a living is low skill. I said a mechanic job is no longer considered high-skill. I'm not taking a jab at anyone. That's a fact - it's a medium or semi-skilled vocation.

In my experience a lot of mechanics are insecure because they feel looked down upon by someone in a high-skill vocation like a doctor or lawyer. The decrease in pay in the industry further compounds this.


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Curious semi skilled to what? I would put it at the higher end of skills as far as most blue collar.

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[Formula]

One person having $100k of Snap On tools doesn’t mean all techs have $100k worth of Snap On tools.

But if you could go to where I posted your picture and circled the ratchet I was referencing.

The dealer I work at there are 4 guys, myself included with around $100k worth of tools. Most of us are older and have accumulated this collection over decades. It doesn't take much to start adding up especially if you buy your own scan tools and diagnostic equipment. I've got a tech2, MDI, MDI 2, just updated to a new laptop, and have a snap on solus and Autel scan tools. I'm estimating their worth around $10k just for those alone including software updates.

I've been in other shops in the past where other guys tool collections and tool boxes made mine look like an amateur set.

 

[Shane6377]

One person having $100k of Snap On tools doesn’t mean all techs have $100k worth of Snap On tools.



But if you could go to where I posted your picture and circled the ratchet I was referencing.

Yes, I have Snap On ratchets. That's what qualifies me to evaluate their quality compared to others. Not sure I understand your point???


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[Yarpo]

About right. I have a cousin (with no real life skills at all) who works second shift at a cheese factory making about the same money as I do.

Kinda wonder where I went wrong.

If you look at any other trade, plumbing or electrician for instance, they make considerably more money and have far less investment in tools. There is big demand for all types of mechanics around here, but the pay isnt there.

I found a great shop and get payed very well, but I don't think I'll ever make the money a master plumber makes. That said I'm eligible for profit sharing at this company after 1 year, so there is hope.

For what its worth, I was a Plumbing apprentice for a year and I really liked the work, but man it was wearing me down fast. Plus, In Minnesota, roughing in a house in 2 degree weather ABSOLUTELY blows. Working in a clean, heated shop is miles ahead of digging in cold ground with the cold wind blasting me in the face. I think a as a plumber I was certainly working "harder" in a sense, they earn that money forsure. I dunno that you went wrong...but I made the switch back into the business, so I may be biased

 

[Shane6377]

Curious semi skilled to what? I would put it at the higher end of skills as far as most blue collar.

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Semi-skilled compared to doctors, lawyers, CPAs, etc. (many of whom can't turn a wrench).

This is the reaction I'm talking about. People get offended at even the though of their field being called in to question.



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[DGersic]

You make a lot of good points.

I think many mechanics have been fooled into thinking that they need to have Snap On tools to be a good mechanic. There is a culture in the industry that looks down on those who don't have $100,000 worth of Snap On in their box. That culture has been on display in this thread. I think a lot of mechanics are insecure because their field is no longer a high-skill field. They compensate with a box of shiny tools.

I think for every jealous DIY'er hating on Snap On there is an insecure professional cheering them on.


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Professional mechanics, done right, is a very technical and high skill field.



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[Formula]

The $100k figure came from post 113 that I quoted.

Reread my post. I didn't say anyone using a tool to make a living is low skill. I said a mechanic job is no longer considered high-skill. I'm not taking a jab at anyone. That's a fact - it's a medium or semi-skilled vocation.

In my experience a lot of mechanics are insecure because they feel looked down upon by someone in a high-skill vocation like a doctor or lawyer. The decrease in pay in the industry further compounds this.


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No, you're wrong and couldn't be farther from the truth. It's a very high skilled field. The problem is a good portion of those in the field or coming into the field are lower to medium skilled. They don't have the training or they've fallen behind on the technology.

I don't worry for one second what someone else thinks about my job because I know that most people couldn't do my job. The declining pay I'm seeing is due to constant drop in warranty time from the manufacturers. The time is coming very soon when the older guys will be getting out of this and taking their skill set with them. Then is when they will have to start paying people to do this job. GM has already recognized this and are trying to increase diagnostic time to ease things over with disgruntled techs they've been screwing over for years. It's too late for that now.

 

[Partsguy57]

Semi-skilled compared to doctors, lawyers, CPAs, etc. (many of whom can't turn a wrench).

This is the reaction I'm talking about. People get offended at even the though of their field being called in to question.



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I wouldn't consider those blue collar and when you speak of mechanics as being medium skilled I don't think most would compare a mechanic to doctors cpa's etc.... I could be wrong... I have been wrong before... once I think.. but I could be wrong about that.

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[Partsguy57]

Maybe you added wrong.. it's all good for me... your not having issues not owning snap on are you? Joking!!! Big bore.. car guy? What do you run?

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[ngk22r]

The $100k figure came from post 113 that I quoted.

Reread my post. I didn't say anyone using a tool to make a living is low skill. I said a mechanic job is no longer considered high-skill. I'm not taking a jab at anyone. That's a fact - it's a medium or semi-skilled vocation.

In my experience a lot of mechanics are insecure because they feel looked down upon by someone in a high-skill vocation like a doctor or lawyer. The decrease in pay in the industry further compounds this.


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Weird, I don’t feel insecure when facing a doctor or lawyer, especially when I am working on their car....

 

[Formula]

Semi-skilled compared to doctors, lawyers, CPAs, etc. (many of whom can't turn a wrench).

This is the reaction I'm talking about. People get offended at even the though of their field being called in to question.



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I think you're confusing blue collar workers to white collar workers.

Occupation aside, skill is relative to what one is proficient in.

 

[Formula]

I wouldn't consider those blue collar and when you speak of mechanics as being medium skilled I don't think most would compare a mechanic to doctors cpa's etc.... I could be wrong... I have been wrong before... once I think.. but I could be wrong about that.

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No, you're right.

I think that guy is confused and has no real idea what he's talking about.

Going by his logic, then I'm sure many Fortune 500 ceo's look down on doctors and lawyers as poor working slobs.

 

[ngk22r]

Semi-skilled compared to doctors, lawyers, CPAs, etc. (many of whom can't turn a wrench).

This is the reaction I'm talking about. People get offended at even the though of their field being called in to question.



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What is it you do for a profession?

 

[Partsguy57]

No, you're right.

I think that guy is confused and has no real idea what he's talking about.

Going by his logic, then I'm sure many Fortune 500 ceo's look down on doctors and lawyers as poor working slobs.

Lol doctor wasn't my first thought.... but it clearly illustrates there can be a wide opinion on how one looks at things...

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[plinker]

I found a great shop and get payed very well, but I don't think I'll ever make the money a master plumber makes. That said I'm eligible for profit sharing at this company after 1 year, so there is hope.

For what its worth, I was a Plumbing apprentice for a year and I really liked the work, but man it was wearing me down fast. Plus, In Minnesota, roughing in a house in 2 degree weather ABSOLUTELY blows. Working in a clean, heated shop is miles ahead of digging in cold ground with the cold wind blasting me in the face. I think a as a plumber I was certainly working "harder" in a sense, they earn that money forsure. I dunno that you went wrong...but I made the switch back into the business, so I may be biased

Before the current automotive job, I was working on mainly log crane installs & repairs at a Mack dealership. If we had to do any major work it was outside for various reasons. The fun part was telling the new guys we'd be going out to assemble the loader in the dark, -20* and snowing. They'd usually have a funny look on their faces. Fun times. Kinda miss it actually (my back doesnt).

 

[Formula]

What is it you do for a profession?

January 2019 new member. More than likely he's a professional troll going on message boards to stir **** up.

 

[ngk22r]

January 2019 new member. More than likely he's a professional troll going on message boards to stir **** up.

That is the most insecure profession of them all!

 

[joel63]

Wow, what a response! Since you choose to be so blunt (and frankly, rude) I'll return the favor. People like you are the reason threads like this turn into a dumpster fire. Absolutely uncalled-for.

He didn't give any sort of breakdown or analysis of Snap-on tools as a whole, or an individual tool for that matter, just wanted share what he recently experienced on the truck. Who ever said you need to have some sort of "Professional Mechanic Hall Pass" to share your experiences?

After all, responding like you did undermines the whole purpose of the forum as it discourages people from sharing their opinions.

Calm down and let the guy share what seems to be his first Snap-on truck experience.



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^^^^This exactly! ^^^^^

What's the harm in that???