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Nova

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Usually introducing myself is priority #1 when I join a forum, but I think this time around I was too awestruck to remember.

I came across the link while browsing on a 67-72 GM truck website. And all I can say right now is I F'IN HATE THIS FORUM:shocking:. No, not really, but all the pictures here have me drooling and turning green with envy and it is stressing me out.

So anyways, I bought my house 3 years back when I was 19. I looked at a couple houses that had reasonable sized 2 car garages that were heated. But in the end I decided that it was in my best interest not to buy a house based on the garage. I ended up finding a bank repo for dirt cheap needing interior renovation. However, this house didn't come with much of a garage, but more of a barn. It is small, and quite useless in my opinion. Some of my relatives say it would be a shame to tear it down, but in the end I am the one who has to use it, and I don't think any extensive modifications will make it into a satisfactory work area.

I have essentially gone all 22 years of my life so far without a garage. It wouldn't even phase some people but it has been eating away at me for quite some time, given the fact that I really enjoy a lot of hobbies that would benefit from having a decent heated shop. I am in to classic cars and associated mechanical work, dirtbikes, scale modelling, woodwork, and I would like to try doing more fiberglass work (did a couple sub enclosures in my old car and loved the result).

As it stands right now my 1969 GMC is in need of a restoration and I don't have anywhere to even start on it. I bought the truck almost 6 years ago and at that time the body work was about 10 years old, so it has help up considerably well. It will need new doors but that is the least of my worries as I have every intention of doing a frame off, high horsepower total redo. I also wouldn't mind having somewhere to put my daily driver, a 2004 Silverado, when the weather gets nasty in winter.

Initially when I bought this house I was thinking of doing a modest 2 car, something like a 24x26 on the cheap. I've recently had a change of mentality, and feel that if I am going to spend money to build something, I better be damn sure I spend what I have to in order to build it to suit my needs. Right now I am still tossing a few different scenarios around, and need to obtain information from the city as far as what restrictions I will run into.

After looking at some of the builds on here, I have decided that my build will use attic trusses for a second level. From the research I have done, the added truss and material expenses are quite minimal considering the amount of area that can be gained. And the more I think about it, a second level would be ideal for some of my smaller hobbies and allow the main level to be primarily for automotive work. Otherwise I would be looking at doing a much larger single level structure with an office type space, and I'm sure this would likely end up being a less cost efficiant route. As of right now I am thinking of building along the lines of say 22x32. That will leave enough room of the main level for 3 vehicles (the 69 will likely occupy 2 spaces while being rebuilt), and still have decent room upstairs.

When the time comes, whatever I build will be done by myself with help of family and friends. I have helped my father renovate almost every house we have lived in, as well as build a storage area at the lake and many other structures. My uncle built a 22x26 garage about 3 years ago, and though I wasn't able to help with much of it, my brother did. He spent a year doing some construction work as well. My grandma's boyfriend is also a retired carpenter. He plans on building a garage this year, so he will end up going through all the motions before I do, which will definately be beneficial to me. Needless to say, I will have a wealth of experiance around to help.

The only problem right now is I work 6.5 hours away from home. I'm not really around very often, so just getting started is going to be a long process. Even finding somewhere to put the stuff I currently have in my garage is going to be fun. I am also not quite where I want to be financially yet. I have full intentions of doing this build funded solely by cash. I hate the idea of borrowing from the bank. I just paid my house off 3 years early and only have truck payments now. Technically I could probably get most of the garage done with what I have in the bank, but my goal for this winter is to set aside enough for at least the concrete and framing. I don't think it will be too hard to at least get the structure up and sided, then worry about heating, drywall, insulation, ect at a later date.

I'm going to try and post some pictures of my vehicles, house and current barn.
 

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Wow, a responsible 22 year old!!! :shocking:

A couple words of advice, build on 4' increments if you can. 24' deep will be better than 22', you got loooong vehicles, 18+' maybe? Nice to be able to walk in front of and behind with the doors closed, maybe with a bench up front? I've got a 24' deep attached and I wished it was a couple feet deeper and all we're parking in it now is a Windstar mini-van. Another 4' in width would be nice too, three 12' wide bays plus you'll need some room for stairs unless they'll be external. You could do an enclosed external stair that will let you put the compressor under the stair, maybe even put a toilet under there as well, the sink can be in the shop, a laundry tub type works good.
 
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Thanks for the welcomes.

Itzkwik, normally I would be all over posting pictures of the 69, but I don't have any at this time. I had a bunch on yahoo and they closed down just after my old computer crashed. Now I just sent my laptop in for warranty repair and may end up losing everything that was on there. So as of right now all I have is the pictures on my dad's computer. I guess that is probably a sign that I should stop procrastinating and back up all my pictures on the external hard drive I got from work.

1320stang, seems like an uncommon thing these days no doubt. As much as friends can influence each other in negative ways, I think I spent my time around a pretty good crowd. We were essentially a small group of friends with common interests, and right now 5 out of 8 of us are homeowners.

As far as the garage thing goes, I know what you mean about having some extra space. Depending on where the door in placed, a dimension of 22' could be enough if the vehicles are parked using the length of the garage. Right now I have a scrap book on the go where I am drawing up every potential garage size. From there I am taking the measurements of everything that will go into the garage and trying different layouts to see how the space can be used most efficiantly and still leave enough empty space (because we all know how quickly that can fill up). The Silverado is part of the planning right now, although it will seldom see the garage. Ideally once the 69 is done and occupying on space, I would like to start on a project car after that in the other(either a Nova or 59 Impala).

I did a sketch of a 32x24 last night that I really liked. With the stairs running along the 24' wall and the compressor placed under them, there should be enough room for a furnace room right next to the stairs. The remaining area will be enough to comfortably fit 2 vehicles, tool box, welder, bar fridge, work bench and storage, engine stand, and a few other pieces of equipment I have in mind. As an added bonus a garage of this size will be a near match to my house, which has a 12/12 pitch roof and is similar in dimension.

But as much as I enjoy doing the sketches right now my next step will be to get in touch with the city and find out if I will be working against any limitations. People have told me that a garage cannot exceed either dimension of the house, and cannot have a larger square footage than the house itself. As it stands right now a lot of this seems to be nothing more than hearsay, as I know of handfuls of garages in town that break both of these alleged rules, including one guy who purchased a lot and built a fairly large garage (like 50x34 or so) right in the middle of the property. The only reason I have procrastinated on this so far is that I wanted to have a better general idea of what I would like to build before I even started asking. Stuff like this is typically not common knowledge at the city, so knowing what questions to ask will prevent us from having to constantly go back for more information. From there I will start reading up on local codes and start doing some more detailed designs.
 

1320stang

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You might have to build a big "mudroom" on the house prior to building the garage.

I forgot about heat, most of our heat here in OK comes from kerosene or propane portable heaters. You might consider radiant floor heating. One zone for the garage and one for the upstairs if you plan to spend any time up there. Consider possibly staying there if you do any big future renovation on the house.
 
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Nova

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I love radiant floor heat. We have it in our shop at work and I am yet to find an aspect I don't like about it.

Unfortunately, my grandma's boyfriend looked into putting floor heat in when he does his shop. He looked into the regulations and in Saskatchewan we are required to run a boiler for in floor heating, and the cost of a boiler makes this option much less attractive.

I intend on using a natural gas furnace, same as my house. I actually have a really good hook-up on one, my uncle is retired but occasionally sub-contracts for a local company when they are busy. He is able to get really good deals through them. He also has the necessary tools to make his own ducts (I think he called it a brake or something like that). I considered upgrading the furnace in my house and using the old one for the garage, but decided that they will both have new furnaces eventually. I figure there is no sense economizing considering what I can get a furnace for, as the efficiancy of a new furnace will pay for itself in the long run.
 
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