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djjack

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I saw them a few days ago. They are OK but don't seem to be a great value. I think the stainless boxes (Sams) are a better deal. I bought a used Snap On box for tools I that use often and I have a cheap sears box for supplies and tools I rarely use. You'll have nearly $1000 in the boxes. With that amount you have many options.

Also, consider the depth of the box. The deeper boxes give you a lot more storage.
 
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77crewcab

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I would just be getting the big box first and then add the others as b-day and xmas presents from family. I have looked at new boxes like craftsman but wasn't really very impressed. Looked like you were paying for shiny paint and the name more than anything. I have looked at the stainless sets at sam's and HF also has an almost identical set from US General. Both seem nice but I don't really want a polished look. I looked at the local used tool store and the used boxes they have are much smaller and about the same price as the full set from HF with out the bearing slides for the drawers. Theyre old banged up Snap-on and Mac boxes. To me the name brand isn't worth that kind of money. Just wondering if anyone has actually bought the US General Box and how they last. The features are the same as many high priced brands so I am just curious.
 

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It's a shame they don't list some important specs like max weight per drawer or gauge of the steel.
 

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Look for a used snap on if you can. I have a snap on top chest that is probably about 40-50 years old and it works flawlessly. They are built with extreme quality. Kennedy is another high quality brand. Normally I dont do this, BUt check out husky *gasp*. My friend has a ball bearing box from them and it is pretty nice. Craftsman boxes are made by waterloo. The homeowner boxes are junk. i have a homeowner roll around that I bought for storing **** I dont use more than once a year, and it does its job. Thier ball bearing stuff is decent. They also have those ball beaing - the griplatch feature which can be aPITA.

Id say the us general boxes will be ****.

Jim
 

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For the home garage enthusiast, like me, for the price, the US General boxes are a sweet deal. Im thinking of picking up a bottom chest myself. Here is a link to a quasi-review for ya TOOL BOX
 
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77crewcab

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I'll be honest I dont really care where something is made as long as I feel the quality is good. These boxes have welded joints, ball bearing slides, and powder coating not paint. When comparing to the craftsmen boxes I have looked at the US General box seems much sturdier. After reading some first hand opinions in the link above I feel confident buying them and going with them rather than buying a dinky box with a "name". As much as people seem to put down things from HF I feel they have a great value if you give them a shot. I have the 2 ton engine crane and stand and have been very pleased. The only problem I had was with the bleed control on the hydralic cylinder breaking off due to misuse (my wife backed out of the garage while I was using the crane and cought the pump handle on the bumper and it broke the valve on the cylinder) HF replaced it no questions asked and no extra warranty bought (this happened the day after I bought it) I have also started buying the Pitsburgh line of hand tools. They have a lifetime warranty just like crafstmen at a much cheaper cost. I have yet to have any problems after 4 years of weekly wrenching and junk yard scrounging. I have lost a few at the junk yards but don't sweat it cause I didn't spend a ton on them in the first place. The SK torque wrench has worked great as well. I think if you give them a chance you might be surprised at how well the tools can hold up. Are they "professional" quality? No, but they are great for an enthusiast that does moderate wrenching. For what its worth I am a Diesel Tech at the CAT dealership, most of my tools are Snap-on and Matco and Mac. I agree they are great tools and I couldn't make my living without them,but I'm not going to spend that kind of money for tools at home just for weekend wrenching. Just doesn't make sense to me.
 

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I just bought a Sams Stainless steel box...very nice...and 564.00, hard to beat. I looked a the HF boxes and I think the Sams is better.
 

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77crewcab said:
I'll be honest I dont really care where something is made as long as I feel the quality is good. These boxes have welded joints, ball bearing slides, and powder coating not paint. When comparing to the craftsmen boxes I have looked at the US General box seems much sturdier. After reading some first hand opinions in the link above I feel confident buying them and going with them rather than buying a dinky box with a "name". As much as people seem to put down things from HF I feel they have a great value if you give them a shot. I have the 2 ton engine crane and stand and have been very pleased. The only problem I had was with the bleed control on the hydralic cylinder breaking off due to misuse (my wife backed out of the garage while I was using the crane and cought the pump handle on the bumper and it broke the valve on the cylinder) HF replaced it no questions asked and no extra warranty bought (this happened the day after I bought it) I have also started buying the Pitsburgh line of hand tools. They have a lifetime warranty just like crafstmen at a much cheaper cost. I have yet to have any problems after 4 years of weekly wrenching and junk yard scrounging. I have lost a few at the junk yards but don't sweat it cause I didn't spend a ton on them in the first place. The SK torque wrench has worked great as well. I think if you give them a chance you might be surprised at how well the tools can hold up. Are they "professional" quality? No, but they are great for an enthusiast that does moderate wrenching. For what its worth I am a Diesel Tech at the CAT dealership, most of my tools are Snap-on and Matco and Mac. I agree they are great tools and I couldn't make my living without them,but I'm not going to spend that kind of money for tools at home just for weekend wrenching. Just doesn't make sense to me.
You just got lucky...I had a long-winded diatribe all typed out but I hit the wrong key and lost it all. Suffice to say that I've had enuff trouble with cheap, Chinese-made tools breaking (cut-off saw, air sander, sand blaster, drill press, mini-belt sander, sockets, etc.) that I no longer buy that stuff. I have made a ton of buys of shop equipment in the last year....sandblast cab, belt sander, disc sander, mig welder, plasma cutter, verticle mill, air compressor and more...most are used (some WWII vintage) ...all are made in the USA. And I'm confident that all will STILL be working long after that Chinese stuff is in the scrap heap and I've assumed room temperature.

I no longer want to spend my hard earned money buying products from a country that OFFICIALLY has declared the USA as it's #1 enemy (true!)..and I no longer want to buy tools made by slave labor...child labor...and under-paid peasants.

That's why I drive a Peterbilt with a Cat engine...kinda help's with YOUR job security, too....
 
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If I honestly thought that things labelled "made in America" still meant that every part, ingredient, components were really "made in America" that might be a concern. However I can to terms with that fantasy years ago. You can't buy cars, electronics, clothes, shoes, books, or much of anything for that matter that is truely 100% Made in America. At most it is assembled in America. I don't bother with it anymore Our country is richest in the world and we get that way by making things that produce a profit. If that means hiring some body in a third world to work 16hrs for $1 US so be it. As long as it works and is a good value I'll buy it. Even most products that claim to be made in America are produced by overseas companies.
 

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Any box might feel nice when it's unloaded, but try putting a bunch of tools in a drawer. Just because it has ball bearing drawers doesn't mean they will last for a long time or provide a nice drawer action a year down the road.

The powercoating is a nice idea. Some box manufacters are moving this direction in the future. Lista is one of them.

I tend to buy stuff I know will last a lifetime just because I hate having to replace stuff time and time again.

It's not a whole heck of a lot of money and it seems like HF has good customer service, so I'd go and buy it if you want a useable box. I just wouldn't expect it to last like the other more expensive boxes.
 

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77crewcab said:
If I honestly thought that things labelled "made in America" still meant that every part, ingredient, components were really "made in America" that might be a concern. However I can to terms with that fantasy years ago. You can't buy cars, electronics, clothes, shoes, books, or much of anything for that matter that is truely 100% Made in America. At most it is assembled in America. I don't bother with it anymore Our country is richest in the world and we get that way by making things that produce a profit. If that means hiring some body in a third world to work 16hrs for $1 US so be it. As long as it works and is a good value I'll buy it. Even most products that claim to be made in America are produced by overseas companies.


I hope you don't think that Caterpillar would have the quality reputation they have if they were using cheap, poor quality parts in their engines and equipment.
Just imagine if the parts were made by Harbor freight machinery!!! I know SOME of CAT's stuff is made overseas..but you'd be way busier in your shop if all the OEM parts were made in China.

It's true we have lost lots of industries here in the US...outsourcing (read:greed) has taken many jobs "offshore". I'm forced to buy imported goods that used to be made here. But I'd sooner pay a little more for something YOU produced than someone in a faraway land. That's why, when I need service on my CAT engine, I go to a genuine Cat dealer. I pay a little more BUT I get a better parts...and a better job.

I should also mention all the environmental hoops WE have to go thru to make a product while the 3rd world countries just pour their industrial wastes into OUR air and water. Now I'm no ********* tree hugger but I think we should be able to compete on a FAIR and even footing. We do a better job than we did in the past on this pollution stuff...they should too. If China had to play by the same rules as we do their products would be closer in price to ours. You can even forget about buying American...buy QUALITY...that will eliminate 90% of the far eastern **** that's on the shelves today.

One slogan I always agree with..."You will never be sorry you bought the best"...

Now I'm done....
 

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As far as Chinese/China stuff goes...

Why do think all these steel prices are becoming outrageous? You can thank China for that...

Want to buy a lift (lots of steel)? It's considerably more expensive to buy one now compared to a year ago, etc.
 

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Hey 77crewcab...I hope you're not p-off'd at me...there's nothing personal in my rants...it's just become a hot-button issue with me in the last couple of years. It all started with toolsbreaking, no repair parts available, etc. And it kinda got bigger from there. Now, with them competing for crude and steel scrap, they've raised OUR costs here in the USA. I vote with my pocketbook...I've gotta show you how "****" I am on this...The company I've got my truck leased to sells company logo'd t-shirts...one problem...they are $15.00 each AND are made in Honduras (Hanes-brand..used to be made here)...I went on-line...bought a dozen MADE in USA T's for $4.50 each...had the silkscreened for $3.00 each...now I've got USA stuff AND IT WAS CHEAPER!! Now you know I'm a real ****! 'Enuff on this for me! See you guys...
 
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Nah I'm not upset I actually agree with you as far as having a fair competitive trade environment. I especially agree with the buy quality statement. I just don't turn my nose up at something just cause it is not made in the USA anymore. I look for the best value. For instance automobiles. My wife and I just bought a new minivan 6 months ago. We looked at the big 3 dealers and for a price range of 20K all we could really get was a base model and even then the materials didn't seem to be that good. Left me with an impression of cheapness. We then decided to look at imports and chose the Kia Sedona (Korean) for the price it is far better equiped with more standard features, leather, more airbags etc. So that is what we chose based off comparing other options in the price range it came as the best value. Now with about 8K on the van with several long trips I have to say I am very impressed with the quality of the van and it fits our needs perfectly. Thats really hard to say as I am a die-hard Chevy/GM fan but it is true. At work I deal mainly with CAT/AGCCO products and I love it. Great product to work on. But just because I work there doesn't controll all my buying decisions. As for the HF tool box I am impressed with it in the terms of comparing what you get for the price. It may not last a lifetime but I don't expect it too. It will be a perfect value for a home enthusiast. I went ahead and bought the big box and currently have about 300lbs of tools inside. The drawers role smooth and stable, quality seems pretty good and it doesn't have the same cheap metal sound many of the craftsman boxes I looked at did when putting tools in or closing the drawer. Again its not a pro box but something good for home use and seems to be a very good value in what you get for the money.
 

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I've looked at alot of boxes.

Lowes, Sears, and Home depot all are painted, have a tin sound when empty.
Even got a smaller top box thinking I would get the rest.
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Snap on at work sound and fell tighter but are still expensive.

My HF box is nice.
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Just 1 drawer
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Still opens as nice as empty. Plus the box rolls easy enough to move if needed.

Even mounted a small vice on it.
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I'd recommend one to anyone.
 
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77crewcab

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Glad to see I am not the only one that sees the value of these tool boxes. So far I am very impressed. How long have you had yours?
 
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ok guys you all have valid points about how cheap these boxes are but dous anyone remember how cheap all but snap-on was from about 1959 to 1985 ,craftsman,snap-on and porter cable where here a long time before the rest -so remember that while you read this-. craftsman stepped up and started to set the standard just a little higher ,that was untill the tiwanees started getting all the contracts and the getting the chinees to move and buyout labor but craftsman stood strong untill about 10 years ago when they couldnt compete anymore so they revamped their line-what other american company did that.now dont get me wrong im NOT a craftsman fan but their tools made it affordable to guys like me to get into different jobs back then,untill we could afford better and now tool companys with american names & made in asia are coming out with some competative stuff, and if your doing a job professionally then invest in at least a midlevel box,theres a big gap in craftsmans line so getting the box at hf wouldnt be a bad start,they are decent quality -my son has one and is very abusive to it and its standing up to him,my old snappy didnt-but even so just look at snap-on later,even used and you can build up and not waste alot of time and $ and remember even the shipping guys need work even if the boxes arent made here anymore they are still putting AMERICANS to work.I bought a top of the line ******** box and it didnt stand up as well as an old craftsman did,so even american stuff isnt always a wise choice,so remember use snappy hand tools and sockets at work and the rest stays home i use some pittsberg wrenches from hf at home and they get more use than my snappys (kids and familly)and stood up to some heavy abuse just remember these type of tools have a very bad warrenty if any at all. you get what you pay for ,but remember your history and stay loyal to the few.
 

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It's a shame they don't list some important specs like max weight per drawer or gauge of the steel.
max weight on these type of built boxes are generally about a thousand pounds that includes the box its self,and about 80 pounds per drawer,check caster and slide ratings and the cut them in half.
 
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you should wire brush and oilsoak them tools and vise,and then paint that vise for longevity of your tools.
 

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I bought a kobalt box, the black box in the middle on sale and I invested most of my coin on the actual tools!!
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I picked up the bottom box about a month ago. With a little work (sign up for the HF club) you can get the bottom box for about $320. I paid $349.99 as I got a coupon in the mail for it and my local HF was out of the "Club" paperwork.

Eventually, I want to add the top box and side locker, but I currently don't have the space in my garage for it.

For home use...it's perfect, IMO.


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ok guys you all have valid points about how cheap these boxes are

Hmmm...you joined last night, right away resurrected a four year old thread as if the previous post was yesterday, and typed two paragraphs with a handful of run on sentences that would've been enough to flunk you in high school English.

Impressive! :bounce:
 

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I'd rather have SnapOn tools in a Harbor Freight box, than Harbor Freight tools in a Snapon box.
 

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How about SnapOn tools in a Mac/SnapOn box? I'm always pushing CL, you can find some bargains sometime (not saying this is a bargain) but you get my idea, I'd rather have a Mac/SO/Matco used if the price is similar.
http://treasure.craigslist.org/tls/1323737983.html

Not here you can't.

http://wichita.craigslist.org/tls/1298119054.html

http://wichita.craigslist.org/tls/1322104998.html

http://wichita.craigslist.org/tls/1318502208.html

http://wichita.craigslist.org/tls/1313007729.html
 

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I've got a freight damaged Craftsman roll away with full sized (18d 26w) intermediate box that cost a total of $250, with maybe $3k out of pocket for the used SnapOn, GearWrench, Craftsman, and Harbor Freight tools in it. I am real happy with this balance and the quality of the tools I use.

Right now there are still tools I would prefer to buy instead of spending more on the box.
 

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I have Snap-On, old Craftsman, recent Craftsman, and U.S. General boxes. The Snap-On is the oldest and the best of the bunch, even after nearly 40 years. The old Craftsman stuff is almost as good as the Snap-On.

The 4-5 year old Craftsman stuff borders on junk, and I wouldn't have bought it had I known it wasn't the same quality as the older stuff. Both are made by Waterloo, but about 30 years apart, and there is a big difference in quality.

The U.S. General is the newest box I have and is very good quality. It's every bit as good as the old Craftsman stuff except the drawer glides are not quite as smooth. But it also hasn't had 35+ years of use. I like it almost as much as my Snap-On. It's noticealby heavier metal than the newer Craftsman.

If and when I need more tool boxes, U.S. General will be high on my list. As much as I like Snap-On stuff, they have priced their stuff beyond stupid.

JP
 

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Wow, I don't think I can beef about our prices now.
Is there no recession in Witchita?

I have to agree. I have been looking at the KC area classifieds for a LONG time, and it is very much the same thing.
The recession has hit here, but not as hard as elsewhere. I've heard it said, we average a year or two behind the coasts.
 
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