OTC 10-Way Puller...

[Loscaldazar]

I've decided that I'm going to be purchasing the OTC 10-Way puller set (slide hammer with a lot of attachments) as seen Here.

Now, my only questions is, can I use the geared puller (2 or 3 jaw ones) as regular geared pullers (not attached to the slide hammer)? It looks like (referencing the picture from the link above) that one of the hub pullers has a bolt so it too can be used with the bolt, and not the slide hammer. Does that bolt also work for the clawed gear pullers (ie, identical to this)? It would be awesome if this kit would double as both for me, and it seems like it should... but I've run into weirder things before....

Thanks!

 

[Hiball]

IRC the slide hammer jaws are are much thinner versus your typical 2/3 jaw puller jaws.. (In regards to Otc) Not sure about the Craftsman.

 

[crewchief888]

OTC slide hammer is a 5/8" fine thread.

that size is the most common for pullers,
next most common size for larger pullers is 3/4" fine.
i have seen some smaller center bolt in pullers, i'm thinking 1/2" fine

 

[spoolgarage]

I actually have one that I am putting up for sale here but its a matco version of this. Yes you can use the individual parts as a gear puller.

 

[Hiball]

I actually have one that I am putting up for sale here but its a matco version of this. Yes you can use the individual parts as a gear puller.

Could you snap some pictures of it assembled as a puller? I know the hardware is there.. But the hardware always appeared to be lighter duty, mainly because it was designed to fit in a specific area and be used to "Extract" via the slide hammer versus your typical "Bar/threaded shaft". I've always thought as them as 2 separate tools for 2 separate jobs.

 

[2oolhound]

Keep in mind the cman gear puller is more versatile in the sizes and types of gears it will work with.
#1 the legs (jaws) are reversible for inside/outside
#2 there are 2 positions where you can attach the legs to the yokes (2 holes in each leg)
#3 The legs attach to the yoke with straps that vary the width of the jaws. (You can add some straps to the OCT slide unit)

Watch the coo on these types of tools, they have to be good steel and properly hardened.

 

[Hiball]

Compare the bar in this OTC puller set to the bars used in the slide puller set... I think trying to use that slide bar set as a typical bar puller would spell doom for anything other than extremely light duty stuff.

2 separate tools... iMO.

 

[Stephenw]

I have the MATCO version of that set (only from when it was still made in the USA).

The sleeved forcing screw in the middle of the Amazon picture is used to set up the pullers for use without the slide hammer. It's light duty though. Here is a picture of mine...

 

[Hiball]

I have the MATCO version of that set (only from when it was still made in the USA).

The sleeved forcing screw in the middle of the Amazon picture is used to set up the pullers for use without the slide hammer. It's light duty though. Here is a picture of mine...

Thanks for the pic.. Op if your wanting the best of both worlds, I recommend going this route..

http://www.amazon.com/OTC-4534-Multipurpose-Bearing-Pulley/dp/B00061SM9E/ref=pd_sim_auto_3?tag=vglnk-c47-20

http://www.amazon.com/4579-9-Way-Slide-Hammer-Puller/dp/B0015DMNIS/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1367709156&sr=1-1&keywords=Otc+slide+puller

 

[Stephenw]

Here it is with a 5/8" forcing screw and minus the jaw locking cone (heavier capacity)...

I picked up the 5/8" forcing screw seperately somewhere.

 

[Hiball]

Here it is with a 5/8" forcing screw and minus the jaw locking cone (heavier capacity)...

I picked up the 5/8" forcing screw seperately somewhere.

While your taking pics.. Lol how bout a top picture showing the thickness of the bar?

 

[Stephenw]

I also have the OTC 4534 puller set Highball mentioned...

 

[Stephenw]

I drilled the cross holes on the longer crossbar so I could use the jaws on it...

 

[Hiball]

I drilled the cross holes on the longer crossbar so I could use the jaws on it...

Thanks.. Notice any difference between the Otc set and the Matco branded set (Assuming the otc is a newer imported set) All my Otc stuff is older and still stamped USA and mainly 3 legged versions, all my bar pullers are Snap On.. All picked up second hand... New = $$$$$$$$$$$

 

[Stephenw]

I stopped buying OTC when they stopped making them in the USA.

Unfortunately, the only other sources are Proto and Snap-on; $$$$$$$$.

I finally broke down and bought the OTC 4534 set recently (Taiwan). The quality isn't anywhere near that of the older USA made products.

 

[Hiball]

I stopped buying OTC when they stopped making them in the USA.

Unfortunately, the only other sources are Proto and Snap-on; $$$$$$$$.

I finally broke down and bought the OTC 4534 set recently (Taiwan). The quality isn't anywhere near that of the older USA made products.

Too bad... PROTO... There is another good option, also pricey...

 

[Loscaldazar]

*Not trying to mock anyone here, just wondering*

But why would they equip the slide hammer (which presumably would put more stress on the pullers) with thinner legs? I can see from the photos that the dedicated kit looks much thicker. Seems like you would want the stronger pullers with the slide hammer.

Wish that the OTC pulley set that you linked to had pullers with 3 legs....

Also thanks for the pictures and discussion!

 

[crewchief888]

over the years i accumulated a lot of pullers, and bearing splitters.

some OTC branded, some matco, some mac and a couple SO bearing splitters

all identical, except for the brand name they are marked with
with the exception of the SO splitters....

 

[Hiball]

Otc is the Oem for a lot of truck dealers... With the Exception of Snap on, a lot of people like to claim they are because they look similar, but Hydramec is the Oem and has been for Along time...

 

[Loscaldazar]

Yeah, noticed the Matco photos were even the same as the OTC pics, just lacking the OTC sticker on top of the plastic case.

Essentially what I would like is a slide hammer set mainly for pulling hubs, but also want some gear pullers that have 3 feet. It seems like dedicated sets is the way to go (as hiball suggests). Not sold on the OTC gear puller. Back to the research board!!

 

[NC-Fordguy]

I stopped buying OTC when they stopped making them in the USA.

Unfortunately, the only other sources are Proto and Snap-on; $$$$$$$$.

I finally broke down and bought the OTC 4534 set recently (Taiwan). The quality isn't anywhere near that of the older USA made products.

Really?

I broke an USA made prong/leg on my OTC carrier bearing puller. I got the local Cornwell guy to order me a replacement as it seems Cornwell is re-branded otc stuff coming out of Taiwan and China these days.

I couldn't tell the difference in quality between the two. I guess I need to go out to the shop and stare harder at it

I've been debating on buying a back up carrier bearing puller as I'm doing more and more ring and pinion jobs. Air locker actuator plates don't allow the tried and true method of a bearing splitter/shop press.

Anyone use ARB's carrier bearing puller kit yet??

 

[crewchief888]

*Not trying to mock anyone here, just wondering*

But why would they equip the slide hammer (which presumably would put more stress on the pullers) with thinner legs? I can see from the photos that the dedicated kit looks much thicker. Seems like you would want the stronger pullers with the slide hammer.

Also thanks for the pictures and discussion!

a slide hammer is "light duty" pulling compared to using a center forcing screw.

fwiw
the only jaws from a slide hammer set, i ever broke had been "modified" to fit a certain bearing i was pulling using a forcing screw

fwiw #2
i work on const eq

fwiw #3
i've mangled my fair share of pullers

the average guy would be hard pressed to destroy a puller, if it's being used correctly.

 

[Hiball]

the average guy would be hard pressed to destroy a puller, if it's being used correctly.

I'm not so sure about that statement...(My opinion/experience only) I've seen what a quality puller can accomplish versus junk. I have both that i have accumulated over the years from various auctions etc. . All pullers have there limits, knowing when its time to step away from the cheater and look for some heat is another story.

 

[Tarheelgarage]

Whatever you decide to buy, make sure it has the 10lb weight.
This additional weight will come in handy when you really need to get crazy with something.

 

[crewchief888]

I'm not so sure about that statement...(My opinion only) I've seen what a quality puller can accomplish versus junk. I have both that i have accumulated over the years from various auctions etc. . All pullers have there limits, knowing when its time to step away from the cheater and look for some heat is another story.

what i should have said was a quality puller.

i totally agree, every tool has it's limits,
it's us "good guys in the dirty hardhats" that know when to stop, and move onto plan B...

 

[2oolhound]

+1 ^^^

A slide hammer is restricted by the size of the weight and the length of the shaft so you don't really get much force on them whereas the forcing screw is very high grade hardened steel and can generate 20 tons or more pressure.

 

[Hiball]

what i should have said was a quality puller.

i totally agree, every tool has it's limits,
it's us "good guys in the dirty hardhats" that know when to stop, and move onto plan B...

Now we are the same page...

 

[2oolhound]

I was in princess auto (Canada's HF) a few weeks back and at the back in the bargain bin was some various pullers for drastically reduced prices. The main contact area was squished like butter but since the kits had several adapters for other fitments these kits looked like new kits with just one F'd part. Who ever returned it might have got his job done or maybe not but one thing for sure, this puller kit was never going to perform the same job twice. They look about the same as the good old originals and they're 75% cheaper at their regular price but they ain't worth ****!

 

[Loscaldazar]

Do you suppose the hub pullers from the 7948 kit also are thinner than normal? If so, the slide hammer kit isn't worth it all. Might as well buy individual pullers meant to be used with the forcing screw, and just buy an individual slide hammer for them....

 

[Danglerb]

Slide hammer depending on what kinds of things you do with them vary in size, having a big, med, and small might not be bad. I think I've seen as small as 8oz.

 

[mrborohachi]

what's cool is the piece that's to the right of the dent puller (in the amazon product picture from the OP) it's for vice grips. You take out the grips screw adjuster, totally unscrew it from the pliers thread that piece into the vice grip adj the tension for the piece your clamping to and thread the slide hammer into the ID of the piece. Now you have a slide hammering vicegrip