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Yes those are interesting looking rafters.... And it looks like hay stacked in one end of the manure shack??

Thanks ahead of time on the solar / camera stuff.

Edit>>>>Actually as far as the solar camera and recording setup, I have a generator I could rig up to autostart when the batteries get down to a certain point.
 
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Yes those are interesting looking rafters.... And it looks like hay stacked in one end of the manure shack??

Thanks ahead of time on the solar / camera stuff.

Edit>>>>Actually as far as the solar camera and recording setup, I have a generator I could rig up to autostart when the batteries get down to a certain point.
I figured out what to do with the rafters. Now all I need is someone to come make my vision a reality !!

Yup. Lots of 4'x5' round corn stalk bales in the **** Shack. After all, they are sort of pre-manure :lol_hitti
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Dad got a little bully with the older hay wagon and now it has a slight "saggy spot"
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A few nights ago I stayed up rather late chopping stalks because a neighbor was going to bale some stalks up for us. Turns out, Mother Nature had other plans and they were too wet to bale so far ...
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Sort of didn't fit anywhere but I got a new toy at work. It's a Leica Builder 509 and is used to map the wallpoints used in the SmartBow ID system. T'is a $7,500 tool and seemed noteworthy !!
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Thursday afternoon I had two loads of Class 5 delivered. I dug out a wet hole in the chicken barn driveway and filled it in with this nice new stuff !!
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Since the ground was so soooooogy I used the 7400 and loader to dig out the hole and fill it back in. I have very much realized this is not a good thing to do at night. Wow were things unlevel in the morning !!!
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This morning I went into the hay shed to find this. Stupid bales fell onto the H !!!
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Out of all the attachments I own for the ol' skiddy I think this one little yellow piece of plastic is my favorite !!
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Dad is combing for a neighbor today so I decided to start hauling pen pack. This is the first load coming out of the Manure Mansion.
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I hauled a load and a half and the shear bolts for the beater broke. Well look at that, the space for spare bolts is empty !! Grrrrr ... head to town to get some ....
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Back in business !!!!!
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Neighbor Jason had to go home to milk his cows so I took over hauling loads again. I put a piece of plywood over this motor to help keep it from overheating a few weeks back. The moisture and heat from the dryer are working at it to bend it in half !!
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Nice dirty rear window to take pictures out of :lol_hitti
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Last load of the evening. Dad and the combine are the little lit up speck off in the distance.
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I generally can follow your posts even though I've never lived on a farm, but I have to admit the last one stumped me more than once.

"Class 5"? I had to Google it. Turns out it is a driveway mix. So I learned something.

But the yellow thing on the Bobcat? What is that?
 

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If I were to buy a 6 or 8 camera / NVR system would you know about how much wattage consumption that would use. Asking to get an idea so then I can then look into solar / battery and generator backup charging.

Cameras get power from the NVR? Thanks.
 
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I generally can follow your posts even though I've never lived on a farm, but I have to admit the last one stumped me more than once.

"Class 5"? I had to Google it. Turns out it is a driveway mix. So I learned something.

But the yellow thing on the Bobcat? What is that?

I think the little yellow thing is a battery powered Dewalt grease gun with a long hose for hitting those "tucked away" grease fittings.

Survey says <buzz>

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I generally can follow your posts even though I've never lived on a farm, but I have to admit the last one stumped me more than once.

"Class 5"? I had to Google it. Turns out it is a driveway mix. So I learned something.

But the yellow thing on the Bobcat? What is that?
That last post was sort of a miss jointed mess ....

Class 5 is a manufactured product with a mix of sand, gravel and just the right amount of clay to make it sticky but not smeary like clay can get.

The yellow thing is a DeWalt battery powered grease gun !! It's soooooo nice and easy to use that I almost don't mind greasing the skiddy. There are 24 grease points on it and the grapple if my count is correct and the ol' hand gets sore with a manual one !!
 

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I generally can follow your posts even though I've never lived on a farm, but I have to admit the last one stumped me more than once.

"Class 5"? I had to Google it. Turns out it is a driveway mix. So I learned something.

But the yellow thing on the Bobcat? What is that?

Hear ya on the "Class 5" looks more like topsoil then driveway mix.

The little yellow thing is a top of the line grease gun, looks like a dewalt
http://https://www.dewalt.com/products/power-tools/specialty-and-other-tools/20v-max-lithium-ion-grease-gun-tool-only/dcgg571b

Looks like I'm not the only one up so early
 
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If I were to buy a 6 or 8 camera / NVR system would you know about how much wattage consumption that would use. Asking to get an idea so then I can then look into solar / battery and generator backup charging.

Cameras get power from the NVR? Thanks.
The cameras need 24v power on the unused wires (4,5&7,8) in an Ethernet cable. There are a bunch of ways to get power to them. A Unifi Switch would be best in my opinion but there are many ways to power them.

The cameras use 4w (or9w with the IR extender), the Unifi Could Key Gen2 uses 16w and has a 1Tb drive built in.

Tons of info here -> https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_Video_G3_DS.pdf
 
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Oh look ... A John Deere parked next to a fuel barrel ... shocker :lol_hitti
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Yesterday I hauled all the manure on the pile that we had been piling up in a field all year so far. Just shy of 50 loads. At 16 minutes average per load it was a long day !!!
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The stuff I hauled first was the most recent stuff that was piled up. It wasn't fully composted yet and was still quite steamy !!
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I didn't pack a bucket so I ordered a pizza to be delivered. I told them the money was in the skid loader and they should leave the pizza on the seat.
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Lunch is here and they guy left two dollars behind. Don't know why, don't care why !!
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Apparently a "Jumbo" size is more than even I could eat so I brought some over to Dad while he was chisel plowing. We shut the tractors off and had a nice little lunch break yelling back and forth to each other about stuff.
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This is the STX325 and the chisel plow. In the heavier ground this chisel really makes the tractor grunt !!
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These are the digger points. They go about 12" into the soil.
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You running that parrot headset still? should work perfect with zello using the button on it as your mic button.

edit: less yelling across the tractors while eating. among other things.
 
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That's what they mean by "hot ****".:lol_hitti

An honest delivery guy didn't take his tip. One more example of not living in the city.

If you've never sunk a shank in the ground you have no idea the power it takes to pull one. And you've got a flock of 'em.

Keep up the good posting!!
 

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How does the manure spreading effect the fertilizer you put down on the fields. Does the manure help it or cause more of an issue ?
 

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I will check back with you on the Camera stuff.

I have decided no solar. What im thinking is in a ventilated locked shed----a couple or 4 batterys and an inverter and set up my honda 3000 inverter generator with bigger gas tank and to autostart and charge the batteries when needed. For 3 or 4 months until I can move to the property.



Anytime dude. I am not a solar expert but I feel confident that I can answer any Ubiquiti questions you may have !!
 

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How does the manure spreading effect the fertilizer you put down on the fields. Does the manure help it or cause more of an issue ?


jlbnut will give you the full scoop, but manure is excellent fertilizer, in many ways superior to chemical fertilizer. I'm sure they use it as a supplement and soil test in the spring to see what they want to add. 200 bu per acre takes lots of nutrients.
 

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How does the manure spreading effect the fertilizer you put down on the fields. Does the manure help it or cause more of an issue ?

oh man are you in for a surprise. Field prescriptions factor in the quantity and quality of manure you spread. Which means in many cases the entire manure pit is stirred up and samples taken to see how potent it is. Then its applied down into the field. Then a prescription is written for the field on how much fertilizer to apply. in the fancier fertilizer units that prescription it put into the computer and it auto adjusts its rate of application as it crosses the field.
 
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oh man are you in for a surprise. Field prescriptions factor in the quantity and quality of manure you spread. Which means in many cases the entire manure pit is stirred up and samples taken to see how potent it is. Then its applied down into the field. Then a prescription is written for the field on how much fertilizer to apply. in the fancier fertilizer units that prescription it put into the computer and it auto adjusts its rate of application as it crosses the field.

That's a long way from "Animal Farm" where the animals were going to do their business around the fields to reduce the carting/hauling/spreading of manure on the fields.

I love the insight into a farmer's life that this thread provides, along with the high tech farming technology like automated milking parlors.

Keep it coming.

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You running that parrot headset still? should work perfect with zello using the button on it as your mic button.

edit: less yelling across the tractors while eating. among other things.
I am still running the Blue Parrot S450-XT and love it. I've been meaning to try the zello app but just haven't gotten around to it.

That's what they mean by "hot ****".:lol_hitti

An honest delivery guy didn't take his tip. One more example of not living in the city.

If you've never sunk a shank in the ground you have no idea the power it takes to pull one. And you've got a flock of 'em.

Keep up the good posting!!
Lots of "hot ****" around here, lol.

Yeah, he left the tip behind. The total was $21.48ish and he took $22. Works for me.

The chisel is a 15 shank and takes all 325hp to pull it through some of the heavier soils we have.

Hey, You keep up the good reading Mr. Andy !!

jblnut that is one awesome set of chisel points:thumbup:
Look at the bottom point and then look at the top to see how worn they've gotten so far this year. I think there is maybe 50 acres through them already and they're well worn already !!

How's the front of the H looking? RIP
I don't know yet as I haven't had time to investigate. That ol' H will be just fine though :bounce:

I will check back with you on the Camera stuff.

I have decided no solar. What im thinking is in a ventilated locked shed----a couple or 4 batterys and an inverter and set up my honda 3000 inverter generator with bigger gas tank and to autostart and charge the batteries when needed. For 3 or 4 months until I can move to the property.
If you can figure out how to autostart the genny, which shouldn't be all that hard, that may be the easiest, and least expensive, solution if it's only going to be for a few months.

How does the manure spreading effect the fertilizer you put down on the fields. Does the manure help it or cause more of an issue ?
jlbnut will give you the full scoop, but manure is excellent fertilizer, in many ways superior to chemical fertilizer. I'm sure they use it as a supplement and soil test in the spring to see what they want to add. 200 bu per acre takes lots of nutrients.
oh man are you in for a surprise. Field prescriptions factor in the quantity and quality of manure you spread. Which means in many cases the entire manure pit is stirred up and samples taken to see how potent it is. Then its applied down into the field. Then a prescription is written for the field on how much fertilizer to apply. in the fancier fertilizer units that prescription it put into the computer and it auto adjusts its rate of application as it crosses the field.

Manure is the single most valuable "by-product" that farms produce. The value of the manure that comes out of the chicken barn each year will save us around $13,000 a year and the steer manure is worth around $3,000 a year. Which means we'll have to purchase roughly $16,000 a year less commercial fertilizer. That is figuring it out strictly on what the Nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium are worth. NPK for short. The manure from the chickens and steers has many very valuable components that commercial fertilizers do not, or would cost an arm and leg to have added in. Tons of valuable microbes and micronutrients plus the organic matter in the manure help the soil structure immensely. Although we do not plant Pioneer branded anything they have a good explaination of micronutrients here -> CLICK ME TO LEARN!!!

As already stated very well by jeepxj the amount and type of fertilizer we apply depends heavily on the soil samples we take. We've been working towards grid sampling more and more each year but it is expensive to do. Although there is a HUGE benefit to knowing exactly what is in the soil we still do not sample everything every year. It takes a certain amount of NPK to grow a bushel of corn or soybeans and we fertilize towards a target yield.
We shoot for 180bu/a so corn needs 78lbs of Phosphorus, 50lbs of Potassium and the needed Nitrogen varies from 180lbs to 270lbs depending on how much Magnesium is in your soil. These numbers are close but will vary depending on when the fertilizers are applies and by what method as well as what soil type and a million other factors.

This is the manure analysis I get done for both the chicken manure and steer manure each time it's applied. This way we know how many tons/acre to apply so we are putting enough on but not wasting it by putting too much on.
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As you can see, the chicken manure is 7-10 time more valuable per ton. The value of the manure coming out of the chicken barn was a large portion of the reason behind building it. The added income plus the manure value put it well into the profitable zone for the time we stick into chores every day.
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I had no idea there was so much math involved when calculating fertilizer application rates.

Do you have to do the actual application rate calculations manually (via Excel or something) or do you have an app for that? You'd have to track how much you applied so far this year, how much nutrients is in the manure being applied, and what rate you are applying it. Does rainfall wash out some of the nutrients if it rains too soon after application? What other factors do you track?

Do you use the injection / incorporation or surface application method? Does running over it with a disc count as incorporation, or are we talking about a high-tech implement of some sort?

I'm just full of questions. :)
 

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Per Wife's BIL - How do you get your son to help finish up the fall chisel plow work? ... You spread manure on the field across from his house :)
 
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That's a long way from "Animal Farm" where the animals were going to do their business around the fields to reduce the carting/hauling/spreading of manure on the fields.

I love the insight into a farmer's life that this thread provides, along with the high tech farming technology like automated milking parlors.

Keep it coming.

Jim
I enjoy sharing what we do out here and am glad (surprised as well) that you all enjoy following along !!!

I had no idea there was so much math involved when calculating fertilizer application rates.

Do you have to do the actual application rate calculations manually (via Excel or something) or do you have an app for that? You'd have to track how much you applied so far this year, how much nutrients is in the manure being applied, and what rate you are applying it. Does rainfall wash out some of the nutrients if it rains too soon after application? What other factors do you track?

Do you use the injection / incorporation or surface application method? Does running over it with a disc count as incorporation, or are we talking about a high-tech implement of some sort?

I'm just full of questions. :)
Math is everywhere :thumbup:

Haha, no app for that yet :bounce:

I keep formal records for the county feedlot people if they ever want to see them but other than that we keep a notebook with all the application rates and what was applied where. I can probably tell you where I spread manure 5 years ago and sometimes that's all the records needed.

We always top spread the solid manure (both steer and chicken manure are solids) and work it in ASAP. Rain will wash nutrients away and we don't want that for numerous reasons. The thing most non-farmers worry about with nutrient runoff is that it's "bad for the environment" which is correct to a small point but the most important reason farmers don't want runoff is because it's loads of money literally being washed away. We care very much about the environment but the ultimate driver to take care of our soil and keep Mother Nature happy is the idea of what goes around comes around. We take care of the environment and the environment provides what we need to take care or ourselves.

Any method of tillage is usually good enough to work the manure into the soil. We usually go over it with either the heavy Wishek Disc or the chisel. Both work the manure in quite well. Fall application of the manure is prefered as it gives the organics in the manure a chance to break down before next year.

Per Wife's BIL - How do you get your son to help finish up the fall chisel plow work? ... You spread manure on the field across from his house :)
Back in the day when the dairy cows were still around we hauled around 2,000,000 gallons of liquid manure each year and boy oh boy that stuff had a stink to it once it was spread. The chicken manure stinks a little but the steer manure doesn't hardly have an odor.

A few neighbors used to complain about the stink with the liquid manure. One in particular moved up to this area from a rather large city to be amongst us "commoners" and "live life in a simple way". Guess what dude, this is part of the commoners living simply ... we throw poop everywhere :lol_hitti

I did not realize how big of an advantage liquid had. Makes sense with N, especially.

I knew it was there but not to that extent.
When we still had liquid manure to spread we top spread it as well but most guys knife it in directly to avoid the smell and to work the nutrients right into the ground.

The main reason liquid has an advantage is that the nitrogen is trapped in the liquid and there is very little air for it to escape into. With a bed pack material is much looser with air everywhere and the Nitrogen escapes. Plus, a bed pack by nature just doesn't have as much manure per ton as liquid manure does. Liquid manure is mostly manure and bed pack is mostly bedding, corn straw and such.

Wow. I haven't talked about poop this much for a while :lol_hitti
 

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A few neighbors used to complain about the stink with the liquid manure. One in particular moved up to this area from a rather large city to be amongst us "commoners" and "live life in a simple way". Guess what dude, this is part of the commoners living simply ... we throw poop everywhere :lol_hitti


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I had no idea there was so much math involved when calculating fertilizer application rates.

Do you have to do the actual application rate calculations manually (via Excel or something) or do you have an app for that? You'd have to track how much you applied so far this year, how much nutrients is in the manure being applied, and what rate you are applying it. Does rainfall wash out some of the nutrients if it rains too soon after application? What other factors do you track?

Do you use the injection / incorporation or surface application method? Does running over it with a disc count as incorporation, or are we talking about a high-tech implement of some sort?

I'm just full of questions. :)

Of course there is an app for that.
https://climate.com/features/fertility-management

fieldview is kinda expensive but the data it gives you back makes it a no brainer if you can afford the initial investment. You're going full circle on the fields.

Currently field sampling is the expensive part. Once someone links an automated sampler it will be a stunning change. you can take your samples from 100x100 grids down to 20 by 20 and really get nerdy with the data.
 

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I am still running the Blue Parrot S450-XT and love it. I've been meaning to try the zello app but just haven't gotten around to it.
if you want a nerd to test it out with just hit me up. :beer:
 

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Manure is one of the last fields of agriculture to be "technologized". Its coming....and sooner than you think. I work in the front lines of precision Ag tech, and get to see/hear the projects companies are working on.
 

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Manure is one of the last fields of agriculture to be "technologized". Its coming....and sooner than you think. I work in the front lines of precision Ag tech, and get to see/hear the projects companies are working on.

Let me see if I can get all these buzz words in

"Cloud drone GPS guided precision manure applicator"
 

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automated field sampling and testing will be revolutionary. Just mount the unit under the tractor or combine and let it sample continuously.
 
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I'll say this: you really know your poop.
When you're around it all day the stink kind of follows you home :lol_hitti

Of course there is an app for that.
https://climate.com/features/fertility-management

fieldview is kinda expensive but the data it gives you back makes it a no brainer if you can afford the initial investment. You're going full circle on the fields.

Currently field sampling is the expensive part. Once someone links an automated sampler it will be a stunning change. you can take your samples from 100x100 grids down to 20 by 20 and really get nerdy with the data.
Fieldview is amazing but a bit rich for our blood. Lots of other things need to be updated to properly utilize that tech on our farm ...

if you want a nerd to test it out with just hit me up. :beer:
I downloaded it on mine and Dads phones and played with it a bit. Seems to have serious potential !!

Man, I guess! :bounce: I had no idea there was that much science involved in manure, that's really amazing.
It's the science of ****. Simply put, manure matters :bounce:

Manure is one of the last fields of agriculture to be "technologized". Its coming....and sooner than you think. I work in the front lines of precision Ag tech, and get to see/hear the projects companies are working on.
Yeah. You keep blabbing on about all this neat stuff but I've still never been told anything ahead of time. Come on dude, I'll keep it a secret too, I promise !!!

Let me see if I can get all these buzz words in
"Cloud drone GPS guided precision manure applicator"
Fixed it for you. :D
I think you're on to something, but I leave the drone stuff to the flyboys.
I have a few buddies that work for commercial manure application outfits and they have the ability to vary the amount of manure applied based on yield maps and soil types. The controller automatically opens/closes valves to the knives that inject the manure into the soil as needed. It's pretty neat stuff.

automated field sampling and testing will be revolutionary. Just mount the unit under the tractor or combine and let it sample continuously.
Going off the above if you could sample on the go while applying manure/fertilizer that would be a game changer. The spreader would adjust on the fly to the specific spot you're in at that moment. It'll happen in my farming career just like the self propelled round baler and multi hybrid planters. Farming is fun !!
 
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Today is the day we see if the H is okay ....
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Pops grabbed onto the hitch and lifted/slid it sideways.....
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Other than a newly horseshoe shaped exhaust pipe and a slightly bend air cleaner all is well !!!
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The chickens left this morning starting at 2:15am and the first thing we do is pressure wash the fans off. Dad volunteered to do it this time.
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It was extra dusty this time because we didn't have all 12 big fans running to pull the dust out. It was around 32F today and I didn't want to freeze things up in the barn ....
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Thank for for the ol' 3M half mask and P100 filters !!!
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Really can't see it for some reason in the picture but it's snowing like crazy !!!
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Once I got a bunch of the manure cleaned out with the Housekeeper Dad started cleaning up around the edges with the skiddy.
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I intended to do a before and after shot but it was snowing like mad again and I forgot all about it !! This is the before, as if you couldn't tell.
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Although it is unheated the stacking slab is the perfect place to wash things off !!
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