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JBL: sounds like fun at the waterpark. heated floors might keep you from working your day job and make you a full time farmer?



STAY WARM



Lis: in case you didn't see JBL's request he asked if you might have more pictures of your floor anchors prior to the cement being poured?



Thanks for the reminder Drives!

JBL I took closeups of the outdoor anchor. You will need to use your imagination as I have no drawings.

This top photo shows the rod extending THROUGH the pipe casing on either side.

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There is a similar one at right angles UNDER the square tube receivers also extending through the walls of the pipe.

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You will need to use your imagination as I was too lazy to dig the mud out. Sorry. [emoji3]
 

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Thanks for the great family pics.
You're a very blessed man. The children Out on Quaker Rd. always look like they have a good time.
You and your wife are showing the rest of us how to do the family thing the right way.
I admire your work ethic and your family time with your wife and the children too.
It takes a team like you and your wife that are willing to do what ever it takes to make a great home and family life like you have.

Vince
I truly appreciate the kind words. It is really a balancing act to try to figure it all out and if you ask my wife it's a little lopsided around here :wtf:

I sure try to stay on top of as much as I can and my wife and the kids are more than enough motivation to try to figure out the balance. Hopefully things will shift a little in the next year or two so I can stay home and farm more and work off the farm less.

Well said Vince, I couldn't agree more.
Thanks dude :)

Pretty sure I've been at that hotel. Does it also have a bar in the waterpark area?
It sure does. Alone with it's spendy beers and "no outside beverages" allowed sign :mad:

Looks like the waterpark went well. As for the heated floors, when I was demoing combines out west we met a guy in Montana that had a massive setup. He did 25,000 acres (yes 25 thousand), and the farmyard matched. One building was so large he could put 2 semis with trailers nose to tail across the short side of the building. It had heated floors and 50 foot heated concrete aprons around the entire building. No snow plowing around the building for him! Just the gravel yard.

I know that is beyond your needs, but a heated apron outside the main door is a nice touch, and you can powerwash something in the winter and not worry about an ice rink forming outside the door.
Oh wow .... No question I'd love to have some heated aprons and sell the snow bucket !!!

A couple of scoops would work, but remember that for an upward pull, you want the bottom of the hole to flare outward. For side pull, you want near vertical sides for the flat plate resistance. Remember, they are just deadman encased in concrete.

18" is the thin stuff around here. We do have some places that are more like 18 feet....Of course we've got some 4000 and 5000 ton presses sitting there...
Ok so I'll take a COUPLE SCOOPS out and make them count lol. 18' of concrete :wtf:

I love that bottom pic of the kids tuckered out[emoji1]
They alternated between WIDE open mouths and hunched over poses and everything in between. Made us laugh a few times !!

JBL: sounds like fun at the waterpark. heated floors might keep you from working your day job and make you a full time farmer?

STAY WARM
Gosh I sure hope so :thumbup:

Because I know you love tractors and a guy can never have too many tractors ima hijack 2 tractor pics for you of my Valentines day present to myself. A 1997 Massey 283, 89hp gross. :lol_hitti :beer:
You can never have too many tractors !!!!!!!!!

Looks like a sweet Massy !!! Also looks like it may have been set up to be a brush hog machine for a while with that huge bumper on it !!

Thanks for the reminder Drives!

JBL I took closeups of the outdoor anchor. You will need to use your imagination as I have no drawings.

This top photo shows the rod extending THROUGH the pipe casing on either side.

There is a similar one at right angles UNDER the square tube receivers also extending through the walls of the pipe.

You will need to use your imagination as I was too lazy to dig the mud out. Sorry. [emoji3]
My imagination is telling me that you live somewhere where there is no snow. Also looks like one of those shafts is a feeder house drive shaft out of a red combine lol.

Thanks for the added pictures. I think I'm going to model my own after yours. Seems like a good design.
 

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I've been gone a while, so I had to pop in here to see what's happening. I love the photo of the zonked out kids after the water park adventure!:lol:

Looking forward to seeing how your upcoming build goes. :thumbup:
 
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I've been gone a while, so I had to pop in here to see what's happening. I love the photo of the zonked out kids after the water park adventure!:lol:

Looking forward to seeing how your upcoming build goes. :thumbup:
Thanks for making the online trip back !!

The kiddos were flat out poopered out and I thought that picture about summed the weekend up :)

Boy oh boy I am also looking forward to how it goes !! We're starting to talk about how to run the plumbing/electrical and getting into the nitty gritty the last few weeks. There is an amazing amount of planning to go into a square box of a shed lol.
 
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"There is an amazing amount of planning to go into a square box of a shed lol."
Wait until you start the house build LOL
Yeah that was pointed out by Mama Bear when I told her about the amount of planning I'm putting into the shop. She gave me a good "guffa" and told me how good I had it :lol_hitti
 
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Last week I drove to South Dakota in a snow storm to install a new computer for one of our parlor customers. What should have been a 3hr drive took well over 4. Gross.
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We had a stretch of -F weather again late last week and it was a steamy deal outside the fans of the chicken barn for a few days !!
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Friday we road tripped down to Iowa to swap our "new" corn head for another "new" one from the same guy. The first one was an absolute TURD so hopefully this one is better.
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The ol' Chevy got 9mpg average and we needed to stop a few times :shocking:
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The amount of old heads waiting to be rebuilt at this guys place is quite astonishing ....
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Saturday morning my brother-in-law drove up and picked up 14 corn straw bales. His little F250 had it's shorts fullish :lol_hitti
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I took the little people out with me for a while today while I pulled the snow away from the sliding doors so it didn't freeze solid and become an absolute nightmare the day before loadout. Better to deal with it now when it's 40F than to wait until it maybe freezes again. They had a good ol' time playing in the spots the snow didn't fill up because the intake shrouds deflected it when it came off the roof.
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It didn't take long and they all wandered into their own little fox holes :lol_hitti
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JBL: looks like you are still keeping busy even though it looks like you are working on the inside of a freezer.

if you might need some help on house plan ideas I think my bride made some when we were thinking about building a new home about 15 years ago before the market around here took a dive.

are you thinking of building a ranch rambler (one story) or multy story with maybe a root/vegetable cellar?

STAY WARM!!
 
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JBL: looks like you are still keeping busy even though it looks like you are working on the inside of a freezer.

if you might need some help on house plan ideas I think my bride made some when we were thinking about building a new home about 15 years ago before the market around here took a dive.

are you thinking of building a ranch rambler (one story) or multi story with maybe a root/vegetable cellar?

STAY WARM!!
Freezers are usually around 0F so even that would seem like a heat wave some days :lol_hitti

Single story patio style home with a LARGE 2 stall garage with a bonus room above the garage. I think the house will be around 1,600ft/sq which will give us more than double what we have now :thumbup:
 
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Mama Bear dropped Leo off on Friday while she took the girls to their gymnastics dealio so we hung out in the best place a couple guys could. Outside !! Or rather in the hay shed for a bit. He was having fun running around in my new snow bucket :lol_hitti
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He was almost more excited than I was for the new 24u APC NetShelter cabinet that made it's way to our place. :bounce:
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Since it has started to warm up a bit Dad has started taking things apart on the combine axle.
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"Torque Multiplication" :lol_hitti
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We took the wheels off than took off each drive hub and set them on the floor. Gosh I'm sure happy to have this engine hoist. Dad and I went to pick the first hub back off the floor to set it on plywood and could barely do it. They are quite heavy !!!
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Left side is apart ...
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Right side is off and we're trying to figure the best way to lift/pull it out.
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Chains and ratchet straps. Always a good combination !!
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That is the rear axle holder. It is also the pivot stop so the axle doesn't oscillate too far and wreck stuff. It also happens to carry a $1,400 price tag so we're going to see if the local fab shop can confidently "glue" it back together.
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We've also been told that the pivots on the rear 4wd axles like to snap so we're going to be putting a 2-1/4" solid shaft through the center of the pivot to beef it up :bounce:
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Everything broken is now out. That holder block was kind of a PITA to get out ....
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We made the decision to bring the complete axle somewhere to have it repaired instead of doing it ourselves so Dad was cleaning it up. We measured the center pivot opening and it was a tad less than 2-1/4" so we figured we'd need to have a piece of shaft turned down anyway so we may as well just have the fab shop burn the reinforcement pieces onto the rest of the axle as well.
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None of the equipment got washed last fall because it was WELL below freezing when we got done with it. Going to be quite a bit to do in the next few weeks getting it all ready to go play in the fields again.
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Someone let a bunch of air out of a tire on the 7810. Huh. Never had that one leak before.
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great time to play "now what's the next weakest part" LOL solid shaft should help, what next

LOL cheater bar on a cheater bar on a cheater bar LOL

good time to check the hydraulic lines … we blew a 3' steering line, didn't have one and didn't want to shut down for 2 hours to get a new one, so what do you do? Swipe a 15' line off a disk, coil the excess up with zip ties and combine on :)
 

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Good, I was looking forward to the combine repair.

That broken axle holder-- will be interesting to see if they can weld it and see just how good or bad the material is. What happens if it breaks in the middle of harvest? Would that cost more than the $1400?
 
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Question from the peanut gallery..
I'm wondering how thick the cast iron rear axle holder is.
It appears to be about 1 inch thick at least.
I hope it can be fixed.
 

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JBL: I need my shipper to work on Saturdays and get you my 3500 pound old Proto torque wrench that is sitting on the floor.

it's 3 foot long, but you'll have to figure out the math with each 3 foot sections of pipe you add to it. :lol_hitti

best of luck with the axle fix and hope it lasts for years. also looks like you are beefing up other areas that could potentially be a problem if mud or bad working conditions happen.

take care and keep out of those freezers and STAY WARM.

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Thought of you when I saw this advertisement for the local cable company that is getting into fixed wireless for "rural" (basically anywhere FTTF hasn't hit)

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I enjoy that they specifically call out getting their network to their outbuildings.

Having done a bunch of point to point installs to get networks spread around farm yards it makes me smile.
 

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There outta be a combine salvage yard up there that has one of those pivots for less than $1400. I know of 2, maybe 3 yards down by me that might have one. I think another over in eastern iowa. Check with Colfax tractor parts. Big yard there.
 

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That does look like cast iron doesnt it? If they had made it as a steel plate weldment it would have been nuke proof.
 

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Thought of you when I saw this advertisement for the local cable company that is getting into fixed wireless for "rural" (basically anywhere FTTF hasn't hit)

2020-03-02_11-42-33 by Christopher Uthe, on Flickr

I enjoy that they specifically call out getting their network to their outbuildings.

Having done a bunch of point to point installs to get networks spread around farm yards it makes me smile.

trying to get ahead of starlink.
 
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great time to play "now what's the next weakest part" LOL solid shaft should help, what next

LOL cheater bar on a cheater bar on a cheater bar LOL

good time to check the hydraulic lines … we blew a 3' steering line, didn't have one and didn't want to shut down for 2 hours to get a new one, so what do you do? Swipe a 15' line off a disk, coil the excess up with zip ties and combine on :)
I hear ya about the find the next weakest link thing and I sure hope we're going to overbuild things enough to avoid that !!

One torque multiplier wasn't enough so the logical thing is to double up !!

Good, I was looking forward to the combine repair.

That broken axle holder-- will be interesting to see if they can weld it and see just how good or bad the material is. What happens if it breaks in the middle of harvest? Would that cost more than the $1400?
I'm also looking forward to the combine repair !!!

It's a largish chunk of cast iron so we'll see about getting it repaired before replacing it. If it breaks again it's not the end of the world but we'll have to tear it apart again to replace/fix it again. This is not the broken part that caused the major carnage. The axle snapping behind this cast iron holder is what caused all the damage. When it snapped it also busted the part off that stops it from oscillating too far and having the wheels crunch into the sides of the combine.

Question from the peanut gallery..
I'm wondering how thick the cast iron rear axle holder is.
It appears to be about 1 inch thick at least.
I hope it can be fixed.
It's a solid 1" thick at its thinnest !!

JBL: I need my shipper to work on Saturdays and get you my 3500 pound old Proto torque wrench that is sitting on the floor.

it's 3 foot long, but you'll have to figure out the math with each 3 foot sections of pipe you add to it. :lol_hitti

best of luck with the axle fix and hope it lasts for years. also looks like you are beefing up other areas that could potentially be a problem if mud or bad working conditions happen.

take care and keep out of those freezers and STAY WARM.

cheers
I'd give that big ol torque wrench a good useful home :bounce:

Oh yeah, we're gonna beef it all up !!!

Thought of you when I saw this advertisement for the local cable company that is getting into fixed wireless for "rural" (basically anywhere FTTF hasn't hit)

I enjoy that they specifically call out getting their network to their outbuildings.

Having done a bunch of point to point installs to get networks spread around farmyards it makes me smile.
I deal with a lot of "WISP's" on farms and most of them are pretty decent. I like it that they are advertising correctly to their customer base by adding in the ability to network in their outbuildings !!!

There outta be a combine salvage yard up there that has one of those pivots for less than $1400. I know of 2, maybe 3 yards down by me that might have one. I think another over in eastern iowa. Check with Colfax tractor parts. Big yard there.
I called a half dozen salvage yards last fall and all but one was a strike out and they couldn't guarentee it was for a 4wd combine as the axle was already robbed off the combine. I'll be checking again sooner than later but we may end up getting a new one .....

That does look like cast iron doesn't it? If they had made it as a steel plate weldment it would have been nuke proof.
Remaking it out of steel is an interesting idea .... hmmmm ....

trying to get ahead of starlink.
:lol_hitti

Hopefully that guy does better on your second head! The ole half ton got some work in
I think this one will be better. It really seemed like the last one was rushed through and nothing was properly tightened. Most things that went wrong were the result of loose parts falling off. We shall see.

Dad bought that truck not long ago and it's gotten a workout a few times now. It's got a nice ride and both the heater and radio work :bounce:
 
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I know I said I'd decided on a design for the holder deals in the floor BUT I've actually decided on a design now. I'm going to make wooden plugs that will fit in the tubes nicely to be used as a plug during the concrete pour and with a little sanding to shrink them to fit a little looser they'll be decent long term caps as well. I built 10 to start. (They're upside down right now)
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Definitely going to need WAY better ventilation system in the new shop. She's a bit foggy in here !!!
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Annnnd that's why I wear this very fashion forward setup while welding/grinding stuff in here.
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Doing better than me. Ive never smoked a cig in my life, but Ive had more welding and grinder smoke in me than I care to admit. I have been using my respirator when I paint though, so Im making progress.

Are we concerned about the wooden plugs swelling or allowing more dirt/**** into the holders than a coverplate design?

PS, Im keeping my eyes peeled for any weird wrenches and signs you need for your upcoming shop walls.
 

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Plastic caps for square tube. Tight fit. easy to remove. Cheap to replace when they get damaged.ccb8b89661409ec87079f834dcaf4e59.jpg

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I usually leave the tube bottom open so dirt and crud never have to be dug out. I suppose you could still drill big holes in the plates.
 
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Doing better than me. I've never smoked a cig in my life, but I've had more welding and grinder smoke in me than I care to admit. I have been using my respirator when I paint though, so I'm making progress.

Are we concerned about the wooden plugs swelling or allowing more dirt/**** into the holders than a cover plate design?

PS, Im keeping my eyes peeled for any weird wrenches and signs you need for your upcoming shop walls.
Also never smoked anything but I've inhaled my fair **** of work related stuff that I'm sure ain't gonna do me any good in the long run !!

I'm not concerned about the plugs swelling up at this point. I think they'll both let dirt and junk in and will need to be cleaned out sometime so it's a lesser of two evils deal ....

My same thought.


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Maybe I'm a little concerned .... hmmm .... Two naysayers on Garage Journal !! Say it ain't so !!!

burn um out. its just wood if they swell
I'm not worried about getting them out. Worst case scenario drill a hole and chisel them out the first time.

Plastic caps for square tube. Tight fit. easy to remove. Cheap to replace when they get damaged.
Someone already suggested that and I tried a couple different styles and haven't found one that fists loose enough that I can easily take them back out. All the ones I purchased fit nice and snug so they do not come out. Even after I shave off the little "grippy" deals they come with they're still a snug fit.

That isn't a trivial task, unless the cost of acetylene has come down
It sure would be fun though :bounce:

I usually leave the tube bottom open so dirt and crud never have to be dug out. I suppose you could still drill big holes in the plates.
There will be packed dirt below them so where is the dirt going to go that gets in there if the bottoms are open ?? I fully expect to have to vacuum them out once in a while as needed so I'm just gonna say it'll have to be fine I guess. I'm open to ideas but leaving the bottoms open isn't going to happen I don't think ....
 

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I'm open to ideas but leaving the bottoms open isn't going to happen I don't think ....
Mike, you had a well gushing water into the yard a little while back. I suspect you won't be happy having ten or more of those fountains inside the shop. Then again, the kiddos loved the water park! Maybe sealed bottoms is the way to go.
Want to know how wet it is out here ?? This well is 180' deep and it's running over. I guess it's full ??
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Mike, you had a well gushing water into the yard a little while back. I suspect you won't be happy having ten or more of those fountains inside the shop. Then again, the kiddos loved the water park! Maybe sealed bottoms is the way to go.
Hard to argue with the logic in all directions there ....

The well is still overflowing if'fin you were wondering. It's still quite wet here but the frost is only down about a foot so we're hoping that after a few weeks of sunshine and temps in the 40-50's we'll be thawed out and can start doing the tillage we got quite behind on last fall.
 

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Hard to argue with the logic in all directions there ....

The well is still overflowing if'fin you were wondering. It's still quite wet here but the frost is only down about a foot so we're hoping that after a few weeks of sunshine and temps in the 40-50's we'll be thawed out and can start doing the tillage we got quite behind on last fall.

I guess overflowing beats dry. :dunno:
 

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JBL keep the square tube receivers ABOVE the bottom of the cavity. Support them with the welded crossbars through the pipe casing like in my pics posted earlier.

Keep a void beneath receivers to let **** accumulate. I’ve never had to clean in almost 40 years.
 

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......I'm not worried about getting them out. Worst case scenario drill a hole and chisel them out the first time.....

You do realize that if this does come to pass, it will happen at the least opportune time when you don't have much of it.

Besides burning wet wood ain't fun. YMMV


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I guess overflowing beats dry. :dunno:
Sure does !!

JBL keep the square tube receivers ABOVE the bottom of the cavity. Support them with the welded crossbars through the pipe casing like in my pics posted earlier.

Keep a void beneath receivers to let **** accumulate. I’ve never had to clean in almost 40 years.
Yeah, might be too far into it to want to cut the bottoms off them all. These are not going to welded into a larger assembly and will be placed in the floor by themselves. I'll think about it but for now they're staying this way. I don't hate the idea of the bottoms open, it's just that I have them all welded shut already ...

You do realize that if this does come to pass, it will happen at the least opportune time when you don't have much of it.

Besides burning wet wood ain't fun. YMMV


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Okay so why are they going to soak water up and get wet ?? The concrete will need to dry/cure whatever and once that happens they'll come out just fine. Unless I'm missing something major here .....

I plan to leave plenty room around the edges I don't even see a soaking wet swelled up cover getting so stuck in place that I can't get it out .....
 

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Your receivers will be just fine as is. [emoji481]. Just me running off at the mouth[emoji23]
 
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Your receivers will be just fine as is. [emoji481]. Just me running off at the mouth[emoji23]
No big deal. I'm open to all ideas and will be patterning the two large in floor deals off yours.

What would happen if you use something like trex that will not swell up,if that's a big concern.
Hmmmmm .... That is a fantastic idea !!

Wooden happen [emoji41]
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Is there a cross bolt or something inside the receivers ?
Not these small ones. They'll be positioned to be used as tool holders and not pull points.
 
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JBL: i've used TREX for cement forms when I planned on leaving them in the ground cause wood will rot eventually even treated wood.

I like the sound of having a bunch of vise, grinder and other tool holders AND with all the motorized stuff you own having plenty of pull points would be great cause you never know when one might be sitting on the spot you had while it's waiting for parts.

hope you are getting warmer.

cheers
 
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