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We have been using the recycled concrete with a small amount of clay blended in. Even on the sloping bend of my driveway, it stays right where you put it. You just have to pack it down well. We used the roller at first, but decided that 27 ton of truck and excavator does a great job.
 
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We have been using the recycled concrete with a small amount of clay blended in. Even on the sloping bend of my driveway, it stays right where you put it. You just have to pack it down well. We used the roller at first, but decided that 27 ton of truck and excavator does a great job.
It is a wonderful product but needs to be packed before driven on or you get stuck !!
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The construction guys were all excited something other than clay was on the surface. Now I have a mess to clean up today !!
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LMFAO, ruts he says! excavations that big are usually designed as freeway off ramps!
I got a better picture of the ruts last night. They are quite full of water after 2" of rain.
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Earlier this week I made an overnight trip from Jonesboro to Ft Smith via US-67 and I-40. Made two side trips, one to visit a Hot Rod Shop and the other to pick up some hydraulic cylinders for a friend. Old abandoned chicken barns were everywhere. I did not see any mega barns like yours but it was clearly obvious that a farmer with the earlier style barns can not compete.

I don't know if it allowed today but at one time farmers were feeding cows with chicken litter and/or feeding chickens with cow pies. However that goes you are well situated to capitalize on this innovative waste management technique.
 
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I did not see any mega barns like yours but it was clearly obvious that a farmer with the earlier style barns can not compete.

I don't know if it allowed today but at one time farmers were feeding cows with chicken litter and/or feeding chickens with cow pies. However that goes you are well situated to capitalize on this innovative waste management technique.
In this area the barns that are sitting empty are either older two-story barns or the farmer has retired. If you have an older barn and want to keep it up Gold'N'Plump will help you with some of the maintenance costs. Most times it is more cost effective to tear the old two-story barn down and build a new single story barn.

There are large beef operations in the plains states that feed processed poultry litter to beef cattle but in this area the value of the manure is too great to need to dispose of it in such a way. Poultry manure is incredibly fertile and will be a VERY welcomed addition to our farming operation. The beef operations that feed it use it as a low to no cost feedstuff to get rid of it. From my understanding, it must be ensiled with corn silage or something that will ferment during storage to lower the Ph so any pathogens in the manure are sterilized.
 
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I finally got around to putting a short extension on the grinder mixer. It works VERY well but we need to find a short auger piece to put inside of it to make it work even better !!
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This is Jess the Jersey named by my little people. Jess is a very friendly steer that will follow us around the barn when we do chores. The girls love it and talk to Jess all the time. It is quite entertaining.
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Progress has been slow but steady on the shed in a shed but progress is made once in a while. Today we painted it inside and out :D
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We made simple ceiling/wall trim out of 6" slices of 1/2 plywood and painted it to match.
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There are some desk/cabinets and another Durham cabinet waiting to make their home inside the little shed.
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The chicken barn crew has been busy the past few days. The ceiling is up and they worked on putting the 1x2 strips up to hold it all together. There is a 1/2" plastic strip running the length of the barn 12" apart and then a 1x2 wooden strip mounted under each rafter.
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I walked into the control room today and they have gotten it all finished today. Trim is up and everything but paint is done.
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Inside the first door is the generator room.
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It's a MTU Onsite Energy 40kw, LP power GM 5.0l.
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Next door is a small closet. Not sure what I'm gonna put in here but it's there.
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Water system is going to be here. Again, not sure what exactly but it'll be here.
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At the ol' in-town job we are expanding a double 8 parallel milking parlor to a double 12 parallel parlor and there were some brackets that needed to be redone a bit. I asked the dairyman if I could use his very well equipped farm shop to do the work and he agreed. This MONSTER grinder was sitting up against the wall. I used it a little and while grinding 1/2" material I couldn't stall it out no matter how hard I pushed the plate into it. It was a MONSTER !!
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3hp 22v. Good grief. He said they paid $50 for it at an auction and fixed it up a bit. I offered to double his money and he politely refused :(
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I got the fan brackets back from the powdercoater today. Wow. That is a nice smooth finish !!! There will be more stuff getting powder coated around here in the future !!
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A semi-load of fans showed up today as well. Cheapest fans on the market but they'll do.
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The fan brackets look great! That's definitely much better than leaving them bare, for sure.

Interesting ceiling treatment in the barn. I assume that's the cheapest, easiest way to close in a ceiling that large.
 

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Amazing how much works it takes to finish the barn vs. the big framing and siding jobs. Looks great. Thanks for posting.
 
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The fan brackets look great! That's definitely much better than leaving them bare, for sure.

Interesting ceiling treatment in the barn. I assume that's the cheapest, easiest way to close in a ceiling that large.
It also shouldn't rust or deteriorate like plywood or tin would because of the ammonia and moisture in the barn.



Amazing how much works it takes to finish the barn vs. the big framing and siding jobs. Looks great. Thanks for posting.
The barn would have been done weeks ago if they would have been here nonstop. There is a brooder barn they are working on as well. That barn takes priority over the broiler barns I guess. It makes sense but it's frustrating when they are only here a few days a week.

Thanks for following along !!
 
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We got trim painted for the control room and the shed-in-a-shed yesterday.
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Also got the control room painted !!
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We also managed to get half the sweet corn picked.
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All hands on deck for the cutting and cooking !!
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12 cups of raw corn makes about 11 cups of cooked corn.
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We ended up with 57 two cup bags of corn out of 35 dozen cobs. Not too bad I suppose. It is cooling on the floor downstairs :beer:
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A trailer full of corn is reduced down to a few pails of cobs :thumbup:
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I don't know if it helps but there is a crowd near me in Limerick that install CHP (Combined Heat and Power ) plants that run on the waste poultry litter to produce heat and electricity. Bhsl are their name. I think they they've installed demonstration plants in the USA somewhere as well

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I don't know if it helps but there is a crowd near me in Limerick that install CHP (Combined Heat and Power ) plants that run on the waste poultry litter to produce heat and electricity. Bhsl are their name. I think they they've installed demonstration plants in the USA somewhere as well

http://www.bhsl.com/about-us/
There is a power plant in Benson, MN that burns a mix of turkey litter and leftovers from sawmills. It seems like a damn shame to me though because the value of the turkey litter being used as fertilizer is so high and it's getting burned instead of used in the field. It's a neat idea though but they are trucking litter over 5 hours to get it to the power plant. Seems like an inefficient system to me.
 

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Do you freeze your bags of corn after they've cooled down? And also, I assume you feed the corn cobs to the cows as dessert? :)
 
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Do you freeze your bags of corn after they've cooled down? And also, I assume you feed the corn cobs to the cows as dessert? :)
They do get frozen. I put them on the floor to cool to give the freezer an easier time of it :bounce:

I threw the cobs in to the steer pen but they didn't seem to care. Hogs on the other hand would have went absolutely crazy over the cobs !!
 
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What's the secret to getting the kernels off the corn? By hand with a knife or do you have some kind of machine.
 
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What's the secret to getting the kernels off the corn? By hand with a knife or do you have some kind of machine.
By hand with a damn sharp knife !! You get the feel for it after a few cobs and away you go !! It takes a ton of time but it is SOOOOO tasty !!
 

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I hope you saved some of it to eat right off the cob. :)

Fresh Minnesota grown corn on the cob is one of those great summertime foods.
 
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I hope you saved some of it to eat right off the cob. :)

Fresh Minnesota grown corn on the cob is one of those great summertime foods.
We cooked up a few dozen ears and had them and some home grown hamburgers along with tomatoes and lettuce from the garden for supper. It was all quite tasty !!
 

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Jbl,

I finally got my Picostation up. It works awesome...full strength signal at over 400 yards! I mounted it at about 30ft on top of the house. The only problem is some of the trees around the house interfere with the signal in certain spots. I'll likely move to a taller mast at some point. Anyways, simply amazing what that little antennae can do. Thanks again for the tip!
 
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I finally got my Picostation up. It works awesome...full strength signal at over 400 yards! I mounted it at about 30ft on top of the house. The only problem is some of the trees around the house interfere with the signal in certain spots. I'll likely move to a taller mast at some point. Anyways, simply amazing what that little antennae can do. Thanks again for the tip!
No problem !! Trees and other obstacles really do shorten up the range of any WiFi stuff. Good thing they're cheap !!
 
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What's the secret to getting the kernels off the corn? By hand with a knife or do you have some kind of machine.
Here's a picture from last Saturday when we did another 40 dozen ears. I let the ladies do the cutting. I am quite accident prone.
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The ears were mostly smaller and yielded about the same as the first batch.
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We managed to get the doors installed in the shed-in-a-shed Saturday as well. When the top panel went up we stood there in the dark thinking maybe electrical should have been first !!
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The chicken barn had some progress today .... finally .... They managed to wrap up a ton of stuff inside as well as install most of the fans outside.
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There are three of these 2' square doors on the barn. They will be used to blow clean bedding into the barn.
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Both of the Kuul cells looked like this today as well. Never seen one put together so this is quite interesting.
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Dang, those silver fans are HUGE! The looked big in the other photos, but I didn't expect them to be THAT big! Will there be grilles over them eventually? I wondered why that last spot on the wall had been left open, now I know why.

Looking good!
 

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Hey Mike, I love your thread. I can't believe it took me so long to get started on it. I'm all caught up now - with the exception of a few places I skimmed cuz all the photobucket pictures were missing. Thanks much for taking the time to make such detailed posts about the farm, it's interesting! :rocker:

You mentioned a FT city job a few times and posted up security cameras and you seem to have a lot of solid wifi gear for a farmer (and did I see you have a massive rack/patch panel at home?) and you work on farm tech, security system installs, etc...what's your FT job, technically?
I paid $1.05/lb for these so at 427lbs they were just shy of $450/ea. Right now they are worth around $0.90/lb when they are fed out and weigh around 1450lbs. Seems like a lot of profit at first but I figure on average it costs around $850 per animal to get them to market weight. Plus, the calves I got this week won't be ready to go to market until this time next year. A lot can happen in 12-14 months when you're playing the market.

To save you the hassle of whipping out your calculator, using today's market values that is a $50/animal profit. That is lower than normal but from the way things look the market animals should be slightly over $1.00/lb next summer so things are looking up I guess. Fingers crossed.
The accountant in me wants a lot more info here. $50/head for allll of that labor...! I totally get loving the farm life, but wow, I didn't think the profit would be that slim.

When it is sub-zero, you basically just have to keep the cattle in the barn and give them a little more feed, right? I'm in Oregon, my neighbors never had to worry about truly cold weather lol. Their cows would still come out in the pasture in all seasons - they knew where the feed was, and went inside when they were hungry (or maybe cold, but definitely hungry).
I take out the loan for the project and own everything inside the barn once it is constructed. I sign a 10 year contract with Gold'n'Plump saying that they will pay me rent monthly on the barn and I need to provide the labor to take care of the chickens. They have a bonus system in place to give the growers an incentive to do a good job and fix/repair whatever is needed and to look out for the health of the flock.

The initial contract is for 10 years as that is the length of the terms of the loan. After that is gets renewed annually and I don't foresee letting the barn sit empty until it's no longer usable. I won't ever go "on my own" as I'd have to find both a source for and a market for the chickens as well as the feed, bedding and everything else that goes along with.
I own the barn and all the equipment in it. Gold'n'Plump supplies the chickens, feed, bedding and pays the utilities related to each flock. It is a contract barn so I provide the labor, site and building. It's not a bad deal really. Which is why I'm doing it I guess :lol_hitti
Just curious, if you're willing to share, how does the rent contract work? Do you turn a profit all along - before the building is paid off?
Most milk haulers require you to have 800lbs of milk to pick up before they will even stop. That's 10 cows at 80lbs per day each for those without basic math skills.

This barn and the equipment in it with the manure pit outside was near $1.3mil. The dairy went from an 80lb tank to just over 100lbs/day per cow within a year of putting the robots in. That is a 25% increase and is the kind of thing that makes the banker and the dairyman smile. Like this -> :thumbup:

Farming can be an expensive, but rewarding, addiction.
What's the market rate on an lb of milk in your area?
I can imagine this might cause some of you to lose sleep tonight. It doesn't bother me that much to have "unclocked" screws but I must say that I am noticing it a lot more since someone pointed it out :eyecrazy:

The electrician that did this must be lazy or just plain ol' doesn't care. It literally takes zero time to hid the markings on conduit. Why not do it ?
Heh, the markings on conduit are like clocking screws ;) Both should be done correctly!
 
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Hey Mike, I love your thread. I can't believe it took me so long to get started on it. I'm all caught up now - with the exception of a few places I skimmed cuz all the photobucket pictures were missing. Thanks much for taking the time to make such detailed posts about the farm, it's interesting! :rocker:
Yeah, I gotta get them fixed before PhotoBucket goes total AWOL and doesn't function at all !! Thanks for reading through it all !!


You mentioned a FT city job a few times and posted up security cameras and you seem to have a lot of solid wifi gear for a farmer (and did I see you have a massive rack/patch panel at home?) and you work on farm tech, security system installs, etc...what's your FT job, technically?
With the farm I brought online today I am over 150 cameras installed on 15 dairies, 1 recycling center and my place. I have a Homonco two post rack in the basement with my 48port Leviton Cat6 Extreme patch panel, Pair of Ubiquiti 24 port switches, Drobo 5N filled with 5xSeagate 4Tb NAS drives, CyberPower OR2200L, Brother MFC and a Unifi Security Gateway. I don't know what my job is defined as but I do a wide variety of things at work.
Officially I guess I am a "IT Service Technician" meaning that I "primarily" deal with things with circuit boards and networking stuff. I get on a dozen farms once a month to do a full functionality check of all the milking equipment to help prevent downtime as well as help maintain 135 Lely Milking Robots. I also drive the supply truck if one of the 7 drivers needs time off and get to play sales guy for a day or two, which I really enjoy.



The accountant in me wants a lot more info here. $50/head for allll of that labor...! I totally get loving the farm life, but wow, I didn't think the profit would be that slim.
Farming is like a shower in a really old house ... it's hot and cold, on and off, profitable and not. It can go from one to the other quickly if not careful.
When the market was on the uptick I was netting almost $400/steer but now am doing just a shade under $100/steer. I'll gladly share whatever you'd like to know, nothing is a secret and if it is I'll tell you where to go :thumbup:


When it is sub-zero, you basically just have to keep the cattle in the barn and give them a little more feed, right? I'm in Oregon, my neighbors never had to worry about truly cold weather lol. Their cows would still come out in the pasture in all seasons - they knew where the feed was, and went inside when they were hungry (or maybe cold, but definitely hungry).
All my cattle are inside all the time. That being said, "inside" has a max of three walls. The cattle are sheltered from the nasty cold wind and such but are out in the cold. They get fuzzier and are fine. I let them eat as much as they need. I like them to be out of feed about an hour before I do chores so there isn't any old feed laying on the ground from the previous day. The cameras in the barn have really helped me know when they run out !!


Just curious, if you're willing to share, how does the rent contract work? Do you turn a profit all along - before the building is paid off?
The initial contract is for 10 years, which is also the length of the loan.
The barn is profitable while I am paying for it. Without throwing numbers around it'll replace about 12hrs a week of income from my in town job which is good because it'll only take an average of 2hrs a day to do the chores. 2hrs a day X 7 days a week = 14hrs a week. Oh no, I'm looking to be less busy, not more !! I may need to go back to math school !!! :dunno:


What's the market rate on an lb of milk in your area?
It varies but right now it's in the $17/hwt. Milk is sold by the hundred weight ....

Heh, the markings on conduit are like clocking screws ;) Both should be done correctly!
I can deal with screws being off-kilter but conduit bugs me !!!
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Around here the inspectors want to see the printing on the side of metal conduit and PVC pipe.
They better carry one of those little dentist mirrors in their pocket if they ever visit me. It all gets hidden here.

What's the reason for that ?? To make sure you're not using sewer pipe and other misc tubing to run wire in ??
 
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Oh look, this calf and I share a birthday :lol_hitti
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I got myself a kitchen toy as a present from/to myself. BEST DAMN THING I've purchased in a while !! Saves a TON of time !!
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The last spot on the north sides of the barn was left open for the install of the Kuul cell. It is installed and wrapped up before I could even be nosey :sad:
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The little roofs were built over the fans to protect them. The guys said these were the nicest finished brackets they've used yet. Good deal for powder coating I guess :thumbup:
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The electricians came and dug power in and put up the meter socket. If anyone reading this wants me to take pictures of every electrical everything in the barn so they can be critical of it I sure can if it would help.
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There was an incredible amount of stuff dropped off the last few days. This is the entire barn worth of equipment ... water lines, feed lines and circulation fans are all here.
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I believe I counted 28 radiant tube heaters. They've decided forced air hanging heaters weren't the best option so I got an upgrade :rocker:
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The well guys were also here today hooking stuff up.
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We did some tillage today on the fields that we will be planting cover crops in. As you can see I have mastered the art of setting the timer on my camera and throwing it the perfect height and angle to capture the best image possible.
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There was some video taken as well. I guess I should give credit where credit is due ... my little sister took the videos/pictures with her flying camera box. She calls it a DJI Spark but all it is is a camera with a flying box.

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Combing winter wheat a few weeks ago.
 
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I acquired a new tool a while ago and got to use it today. It is pretty handy. I don't remember what it's called but it crimps little metal deals onto the ends of bare stranded wires.
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It makes it much easier to put wires into little clamp down terminals ... especially if they will be going in and out again sometime.
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The electricians started on the chicken barn today. They said it'll take three guys 4 days to rough everything in and then another 5 days down the road to hook it all up. The got all the wiring run today for the fans and got all the lights wired and installed. 117 9.9w LED lights. I did the math and they ran over a mile of wire today !!
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There was some video taken as well. I guess I should give credit where credit is due ... my little sister took the videos/pictures with her flying camera box. She calls it a DJI Spark but all it is is a camera with a flying box.

So a box fan with a camera hanging off it?:D (kidding)

Good thing I wasn't running that tractor, I would have probably chewed the hell out of the grass at the end, during the u-turns. And speaking of u-turns, that tractor does some pretty tight turns for such a big guy!:thumbup:
 
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So a box fan with a camera hanging off it?:D (kidding)

Good thing I wasn't running that tractor, I would have probably chewed the hell out of the grass at the end, during the u-turns. And speaking of u-turns, that tractor does some pretty tight turns for such a big guy!:thumbup:
The disk is 32' wide and it had no problem turning short enough to go into the next pass. I don't know the exact turning radius but the wheels are less than 6" from each other when it is turning as short as it goes.

That was as high as the camera would go, it was already dragging a few hundred feet of cord being up that high :lol_hitti
 
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