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MetalSlug

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Hello all,

So I recently poured a new slab next to my garage that I'm going to be using to park cars and do auto work with a scissor lift. It's only a few days in and just looking at how bright it is, I'm already imagining oil stains never coming out. I've seen plenty of posts about Epoxy coatings inside the garage, but not a whole lot for outside that can take the abuse of the sun, lots of heat and heavy metal wheels and other metal objects (jacks, stands and scissor lift) rolling over or sitting on top of it.

I'm in So. Cal. so there's no issue of ice or salt or really even much rain; just a ton of sun and heat. Any suggestions or even personal experience, even bad experiences of stuff that just didn't work?
 
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So I let this sit for a while, but I still need some feedback from anyone who has used out door coatings that can take the abuse of auto work.

(I already searched here and there was a ton of garage related coatings and one OUTDOOR, which didn't provide much help. Pretty disheartening to be told to use search right off the bat for something I don't see asked vs the pages and pages of garage coatings questions that don't always get the same treatment).

From looking online, the only thing that I can find that can take auto work and outdoor elements abuse when applied outdoors is Armorpoxy 18-OX, but can't find much info besides what's on that webpage. Emailed Armorpoxy a couple days ago, but haven't heard anything yet.
 

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Some high performance coatings can take the abuse that you mentioned. We have one in our Nohr-S. However, these types of coatings can not withstand moisture pooling under them, breaking the bond between concrete and coating.

Moisture collects, it brings salts with it. Salts eat the concrete, bond is broken.

Now, if this is a raised slab or balcony, no problem as there is no moisture beneath the slab to cause issues.

The best medicine is a penetrating product like our Silax-Seal to help limit the penetration of stains.
 

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So I let this sit for a while, but I still need some feedback from anyone who has used out door coatings that can take the abuse of auto work.

(I already searched here and there was a ton of garage related coatings and one OUTDOOR, which didn't provide much help. Pretty disheartening to be told to use search right off the bat for something I don't see asked vs the pages and pages of garage coatings questions that don't always get the same treatment).

From looking online, the only thing that I can find that can take auto work and outdoor elements abuse when applied outdoors is Armorpoxy 18-OX, but can't find much info besides what's on that webpage. Emailed Armorpoxy a couple days ago, but haven't heard anything yet.

The thread was there, in that search. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=299933&highlight=outdoor

I had remembered that thread and that's why I took the time to run the search for you and post it for you. I didn't even tell you to run a search so I don't know why you're complaining. You're welcome
 
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Hello all,

So I recently poured a new slab next to my garage that I'm going to be using to park cars and do auto work with a scissor lift. It's only a few days in and just looking at how bright it is, I'm already imagining oil stains never coming out. I've seen plenty of posts about Epoxy coatings inside the garage, but not a whole lot for outside that can take the abuse of the sun, lots of heat and heavy metal wheels and other metal objects (jacks, stands and scissor lift) rolling over or sitting on top of it.

I'm in So. Cal. so there's no issue of ice or salt or really even much rain; just a ton of sun and heat. Any suggestions or even personal experience, even bad experiences of stuff that just didn't work?


So a tough as nails coating that can be used outdoors and ship to southern California :scared: Oh sure give us the easy ones :)

I would not coat it. A silane siloxane sealer such as the one legacy offers, the ones we offer and others will do just fine for repelling moisture and help with many stains. Personally for automotive fluids I would do a densifier followed by Ghostshield 8505 which repels oil specifically -- and still has silane and siloxane.

If you go the coating route it needs to be breathable.
 
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The thread was there, in that search. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=299933&highlight=outdoor

I had remembered that thread and that's why I took the time to run the search for you and post it for you. I didn't even tell you to run a search so I don't know why you're complaining. You're welcome

I apologize if that was your intention (that was same thread I found), but this is the link you posted the first time:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/search.php?searchid=29136799

Says 'Sorry, no matches'
 
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So a tough as nails coating that can be used outdoors and ship to southern California :scared: Oh sure give us the easy ones :)

I would not coat it. A silane siloxane sealer such as the one legacy offers, the ones we offer and others will do just fine for repelling moisture and help with many stains. Personally for automotive fluids I would do a densifier followed by Ghostshield 8505 which repels oil specifically -- and still has silane and siloxane.

If you go the coating route it needs to be breathable.

Ok, so what you and and legacy are suggesting is somewhat similar to what is used on paving stones to give them a wet look. It doesn't necessarily stop oil stains, but it makes them a heck of a lot easier to clean, right?
 

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Ok, so what you and and legacy are suggesting is somewhat similar to what is used on paving stones to give them a wet look. It doesn't necessarily stop oil stains, but it makes them a heck of a lot easier to clean, right?

If a wet look is what you want then an acrylic sealer will work. They are not resistant to all automotive fluids and do require maintenance. The other option is just a straight sealer
 

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Ok, so what you and and legacy are suggesting is somewhat similar to what is used on paving stones to give them a wet look. It doesn't necessarily stop oil stains, but it makes them a heck of a lot easier to clean, right?


We have (2) suggestions...
SilaxSeal- penetrating sealant, about the best you can get outside for a sealer that leaves no trace behind.(less expensive than the mass marketed products).
http://www.legacyindustrial.net/products/concrete-sealers/silaxseal.html

HD6600-MMA topical waterproofing acrylic sealer, breathes
http://www.legacyindustrial.net/products/concrete-sealers/hd6600-mma-concrete-sealer.html
 
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