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Outer garage seal issues

aruba

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Hi All,

I had a hi-lift door installed a few months ago and ever since then, my outer garage door seal has begun to curl when the door is raised. This is what it looks like:

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The seal has now begun to tear from the constant curling. If I replace this seal, will it keep doing this?

Also, is there a different / additional seal I can use from the inside to keep cold drafts out? Can I attach something to the piece of wood the arrow points to below?

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Thanks.
 
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84944Redline

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I used a roll of weatherstripping very similar to the trim on the outside of the garage door and installed it at the top edge of the door. Glued and screwed down with self tapping metal screws. This way, the "flap" part seals against the wood frame when the door is closed.

I adjusted my doors to seal very snug - but not so tight to cause wear/damage - so the heat stays inside and the cold stays out. It's now much better than before, so I'm happy about that!
 

bad_idea

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My opinion, based on my very limited experience, is that they adjusted the door too close to the stripping when they rehung the door. As bazzateer said, get the installer back out to fix it. You paid him for a service and he made a mistake in that service. Not the end of the world, hopefully the guy is cordial about it and he gets referrals from you and repeat business.
 

OldTC

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When running on a "regular-lift" track, the top section of the door is pulled away from the wall almost immediately as it's raised due to the curvature of the track. (the 90 degree section at the top of the vertical section of track).

The difference between a "high lift" and a "regular-lift" is usually an additional 12" of vertical track before the 90 degree turn......all that means is the door is being drug up the wall another 12" before it is pulled away from that wall.

That's where your problem lies; instead of being pulled back away from the top rubber, the entire length of the door face is being drug across it...it's just the nature of the beast.
Usually with a "regular lift" door they fasten the weather strip to the jamb with the door not in place...and position it where the hard part of the weather strip is almost flush with the wood jamb. It looks like this is the way yours may have been installed.

The only fix would be to remove that top section of weather strip and re-locate the new one further from the face of the door, it only needs to make contact with the face of the door.
Your contractor shouldn't mind doing that for you.
 
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pattenp

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By the picture it looks like you don't have the proper top track extension for highlift that pulls the door away from the top as it starts to open. Another thing is the top seal may be pushed too tight against the door. A simple fix may be to remove the weather strip and re-install to where it lightly contacts the door face when closed.
 
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OldTC

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I went down and took a couple of photos of mine.

Here's the outside as it's being raised and pulled away from the wall on a "regular lift" track.
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Here's the inside showing the curved piece that pulls it away from the wall.
Another problem you may have is this: you can't see it but your track should not be vertical with the wall and should actually lean away from it about a 1/2" or more at the top. If yours doesn't....that is also part of your problem. As the door is raised in the track it needs to move away from the wall due to this 'lean'.
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upndown

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Looks to me like you've got too much vertical lift in your track..no adjustment left in your top fixtures! Looking at your 1st picture that next section is going to do the same thing! That track needs to be moved away from the door jamb!!

Call your door co back! Oh and tell them they owe you a new top stop!!! Good luck..:beer:
 

GreyOwl

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If you attach anything to the wood the door will just peel it off when it opens. If anything a flap would need to be attached directly to the flat edge along the top of the door panel itself so it lays against the wood frame when closed. Commercial doors have a seal made for this area and you may find one from your door dealer.
 

AndyL

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Few issues, high lift should break away from the jamb pretty quick to avoid these issues - yours goes basically straight up following the ⅛"/ft of the verticals... second - that's steelcraft weatherstrip, it doesn't have a solid backing so it folds over like this a lot easier than most weatherstrip...
 

OldTC

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So why isn't there a slight "S" track for these types of high clearance installations?

:) As long as the vertical track is installed with the correct "lean" away from the wall at the top,...it works fine; the door immediately starts to back off the jamb as it raises,...and if the weather strip is not installed as tight it is on a regular lift door it won't rub,.... it needs to be backed off so it's just touching the door.

They may have such a track section,....if not; it'd be a great idea.
 
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