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Outlet in open shed? Outside outlets?

raferguson

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I have a loafing shed, open on the south side. I would like to add an outlet inside the shed. Do I need to use waterproof outlet boxes? (GFI for sure.)

Sort of a related question: What is the easiest way to install outlets on both sides of the loafing shed? It is post and beam construction, no drywall or plywood on the inside, so the wall is relatively thin. If this looks complicated, maybe I can just live with an outlet in the shed, near the open side.

Similarly, what is the easiest/best way to install an outside outlet? Do I need conduit? Some of what I saw on the internet used a waterproof box, but a standard clamp for the cable, depending on the caulk around the box to make it waterproof. It did not look that great an installation to me, but I am unclear on how to do it right.

The shed is a mess of wiring, I am leaning to rewiring it from scratch. I found a 40 amp breaker "protecting" 14 gauge romex..... There is a two prong outlet, the list goes on.
 
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zmaxmotorsports

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Around here anyway you'd have to use an outdoor rated box,a a tamper resistant gif marked wr and an in use bubble cover.
I remember telling an inspector we should just wrapping ourselves in bubble wrap and sit in the middle of the room and sing cun by yah( spell check) :spit:
 

PoorOwner

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rain tight emt fittings to run from one weatherproof box to the other.
Leave no wires or cables exposed. How is it coming in the proximity of the shed?
 
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matt_i

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You can always use UF "direct bury" wire for weather resistance of the cable itself.

Imo you should place it in vertical conduits where it could be subjected to damage.

There are -WR "weather resistant" outlets (which are also GFI) for those facing outside.

I'd use one of the grey aluminum boxes you can get at big boxes. There are "in use covers" which are hinged and are usually clear and protect the male plug when constantly in use that have a foam gasket to the junction box.

Last thing is for a standalone "outdoor" outlet I would bend some trim coil, galvanized metal, etc to make a small flashing that protects the outlet from direct rainfall, if the roof overhang isn't already doing that. Typically putting them up higher gives you more and better coverage from wind-driven rain.
 
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raferguson

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For some reason I had missed that there were GFIs that were weather resistant, so that is good to know. I am familiar with in use covers.

I will try to run the wires above the rafters, and then drop down using rain tight EMT. I would not try to use conduit above the rafters.

I am still unclear what to do when the power is already in the wall, and I just want to add an outlet outside. Do I need to use conduit to penetrate the wall, or is it sufficient to use a weatherproof box and caulking.

I had not thought of a little flashing to try to keep water away from the outlet....
 
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