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Overhead LED lighting project

zendriver

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Needing to install permanent lighting in the three-car, I tried out the LED double light from Sam's Club. Nice and bright and well-built but a tad bit on the blue side. It was returned.

Since this is a development(obsession) project, I noticed that they also sold LED tubes that were purportedly the electronic ballast (some) compatible, "plug and play" with the Honeywell brand on them 18w 1800 lumen 4000k color. $20 for two.

I really like that they are bright and the color is a little bit more natural but I found that they dont directly plug into nearly anything. They are supposed to work at line voltage. For instance the quad fixture in the image I can put two of them in but if I put two more and they all start going wonky. Another quad they don't hardly work at all. I have a newer electronic ballast double they did not work at all.

The instructions are mixed because they do have a compatible ballast list, but also state that the ballast and starter should be removed and that the tombstones should be non shunted.

Why would a tombstone be shunted?

I was originally planning on using 12 (total)matching old 4 foot fixtures and just gutting them, except for the tombstones and use them but my source fell through. I'm kind of at a loss because I don't see any reason even buying inexpensive new T8 fixtures and then tearing the insides out.

In using Not sure if reflector is even needed because these tubes are aluminum on one side and the light appears to be pretty directional.

That said I'm thinking of just making my own fixtures, by mounting new non shunted tombstones to something, plug in the tube and wire 120v to one end.

Is there any reason this would not work?





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Couple of things....
First, I searched all over and couldn't find any info on the product that you are talking about. Looked on Sams' Club site. Looked on Honeywell's site and there are tubes there, but not the one you are describing. Maybe give me an exact part number off of the tube?
Second, if you get me a ballast number, I can help you better.
Third, you confused me when you said that they should be compatible with ballasts, but the instructions said that the ballast should be removed? Which is it?
If the ballast is to be removed, you will need non-shunted sockets.
If the ballast is a T8 electronic ballast, you can use either type of socket.
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They are not on the Sam's club site and I could not find anything elsewhere. even from Honeywell . They are made or at least distributed by a company called international development Corporation out of Roanoke Texas Must just put the Honeywell name on it. Model number is T83240HBXXX The instructions list about a dozen or so electronic ballast is supposed be compatible with but another part says that the ballast and starter must be removed. Apparently it is somewhat plug-and-play. The company has a phone number but when I called it went straight to voicemail which I don't never expect to be returned.. They have a five year warranty but I guess I won't mean much if you can't contact the company.

It seems other brands that retrofit just need 120 V on one end so I think I might just do the smoke test on one tonight.


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Hooking up 120 V directly didn't get the job done, so it must need something from the ballast. Just like old-school PC computers, maybe the new LED plug-and-play tubes, actually means plug-and-pray. I'm going to just return them. And get something known to retrofit


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Got it figured out.

One pin on one end and the opposite pin on the other end, all unmarked.

Cut out ballasts and made one end of fixture hot, the other neutral, on all pins. That way the tubes can go in either way and work. It was pretty much already wired that way.

They do need a reflector, so it's time to start scrounging Craigslist, for used fixtures.
 
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Test positioning of two quad fixtures towards the back of the two-car side of the garage. Four fixtures should get the job done. Currently uses 144 watts total. 02d9fb951e34129878086ee1bd7a082c.jpg6eb6bb886ef0aa0779538ca9afeca5f1.jpg


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Here is the two car side with the 4 quad fixtures, minus the diffusers. 288 watts total.
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Eventually I'll do the single car side, maybe the cost of the tube will come down even more.


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