Ozone generator

[pcmeiners]

Purchase an ozone generator off Ebay.....

Turns out this produces more ozone then I figured. This could do an entire house or large garage, cost of $48.54. This has no case, to me I will use it infrequently, I do not need a case. You can receive a non lethal shoch if you touch the plates when energized. Also Ozone is not good to breath in high concentrations, which this can produce, so get in/out of the treated space quickly, air the area out before using area. This unit has 2 set ionizing plates, units with one set (cheaper) would be sufficient. Use with common sense.

Definite thumbs up for this unit


https://www.ebay.com/itm/20g-h-110V...855914?hash=item1a5fd3a66a:g:j0sAAOSw1NRbq2MM

 

[kctyphoon]

Maybe its me.. why would one want to generate ozone in their home? I’m filled with questions.

 

[zendriver]

Maybe its me.. why would one want to generate ozone in their home? I’m filled with questions.

Kills smell sources, mold, etc. It's gas, so it goes into nooks, cracks and crannies.

It's supposed to be a one-and-done process, not something that is run daily like a oscillating table fan.

I have one, but no way to tell, if it's actually working, without an ozone meter an they're are pretty pricey.

 

[pcmeiners]

Removes odors such as smoke as in cigarette or fire, musty odors, or any other odors which linger. Ozone comprises of 3 molecules of oxygen which oxidizes odors. Ozone is the crisp smell you get after a lightning storm.

It is NOT meant for occupied areas. As I mention it for use by people who have common sense, not Darwin award contestants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone

Zendriver, this unit leaves no doubt ozone is being produced. Turned on for 10 minutes will do a large room.

 

[zendriver]

Purchase an ozone generator off Ebay.....

Turns out this produces more ozone then I figured. This could do an entire house or large garage, cost of $48.54. This has no case, to me I will use it infrequently, I do not need a case. You can receive a non lethal shoch if you touch the plates when energized. Also Ozone is not good to breath in high concentrations, which this can produce, so get in/out of the treated space quickly, air the area out before using area. This unit has 2 set ionizing plates, units with one set (cheaper) would be sufficient. Use with common sense.

Definite thumbs up for this unit


https://www.ebay.com/itm/20g-h-110V...855914?hash=item1a5fd3a66a:g:j0sAAOSw1NRbq2MM

How do you know how much ozone it puts out?

 

[kctyphoon]

Alright - so if it eliminates the “smell” in the air - unless you eliminate the source of said smell, wont it still smell? Lol

Correct me if I’m wrong - but it sounds like its the equivalent of opening a window, without opening a window.

 

[dogdog]

yea it works sort of... I have 2 of these in the past except it's some rebrand and I paid more...alpine air or something, it's ionizer and O3 generator plus UVC things.... I left it on in the basement and it does work, everything smells like chlorine... and dust just magnetize to stuff... and of cause it died after about 2 years continuously on...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Breathe-Fr...950091?hash=item3b34906a4b:g:LacAAOSwGjldHSnz

The question is how easily is to clean those plates ?

 

[Mustang1167]

Kills smell sources, mold, etc. It's gas, so it goes into nooks, cracks and crannies.

It's supposed to be a one-and-done process, not something that is run daily like a oscillating table fan.

I have one, but no way to tell, if it's actually working, without an ozone meter an they're are pretty pricey.

When I turn on my ozone generator I have to run out of the room before I’m overwhelmed with the smell of ozone. I would guess that if you can’t smell it immediately then your machine is not working correctly.

 

[zendriver]

Alright - so if it eliminates the “smell” in the air - unless you eliminate the source of said smell, wont it still smell? Lol

Correct me if I’m wrong - but it sounds like its the equivalent of opening a window, without opening a window.

My response stated it goes to the source and well as the airborne particle.

Supposed to kill mold and cigarette smoke PM imbedded in fabric etc.

An open window and fresh air won't usually get that job done, otherwise, that's what they'd do.

They are used often in mold remediation, for obvious reason.

 

[zendriver]

When I turn on my ozone generator I have to run out of the room before I’m overwhelmed with the smell of ozone. I would guess that if you can’t smell it immediately then your machine is not working correctly.

Hard to say, my sense of smell is not that great, plut, it was ran in a large full basement.

I want to build a small sealed chamber, so I can run one with a single item or article clothing in it, to de-smell or kill mold in it on it individually.

Maybe i''l check out the eBay one you have, since the one I have was purchased used.

I really like to get an ozone meter.

 

[pcmeiners]

"yea it works sort of... "

Not sort of with this unit, In 5 minutes you would not be able to remain in a room.

This has the same guts as pro units with a metal case selling for>$380.

"Correct me if I’m wrong - but it sounds like its the equivalent of opening a window, without opening a window."

Yes it does the same thing as leaving windows wide open for 20 days straight (guesstimate).

Yes it does go into crannies. I ran it upstair, with the upstair closed off. Downstairs I smell a just perceptible safe amount which can only be coming from wall plate leakage . How do I know it is safe? The concentration down stairs is similar to the amount produces after a thunder storm, a very small amount.

For an small articles, place in a reasonable sized cardboard box, with the generator on for 3 minutes ( seal the box). Even if you open the box with ozone still active, that much in a room with not be an issue.

Now you Darwin award candidates should not waste your time with ozone. Go for the real thing, pack potassium cyanide from a 55 Gallon drum, especially if your the gene type which can not smell "bitter almonds" . You will go from candidate to award winner in a breath or two. I have packed cyanide but I have the gene which allows me to smell "bitter almond".

 

[zendriver]

"yea it works sort of... "

Not sort of with this unit, In 5 minutes you would not be able to remain in a room.

This has the same guts as pro units with a metal case selling for>$380.

"Correct me if I’m wrong - but it sounds like its the equivalent of opening a window, without opening a window."

Yes it does the same thing as leaving windows wide open for 100 days straight (guesstimate).

Yes it does go into crannies. I ran it upstair, with the upstair closed off. Downstairs I smell a just perceptible amount which can only be coming from wall plate leakage .

Sound's like the Chinese, really know their ozone!

Cheap price, just wonder why they didn't just build it into some kind of enclosure?

 

[pcmeiners]

Sound's like the Chinese, really know their ozone!

Cheap price, just wonder why they didn't just build it into some kind of enclosure?

Yes it is Chinese, and yes the same unit is used in enclosed cases, again for >$380.00. Like I said, I do not need a case at that price. I can use the saved money to purchase other tools like the TIG tungsten grinder I purchase today off Ebay.

 

[zendriver]

Yes it is Chinese, and yes the same unit is used in enclosed cases, again for >$380.00. Like I said, I do not need a case at that price. I can use the saved money to purchase other tools like the TIG tungsten grinder I purchase today off Ebay.

The $380 models are probably made there too.

I may order this one.

We buy a lot of auction items that stink


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[kctyphoon]

YouTube videos are like; “do not use this around People, Plants, or Pets”...

With no way of knowing how much youre creating or how much is present, it seems like something that powerful (if it really is that powerful) is not something most people should consider to “freshen up the place”.

like i was saying - if whats producing the odor isnt removed or remedied, this isnt a miracle cure. Your dog is still gonna smell if you dont give him a bath (if thats not obvious enough).

But i get what your saying. You can block off a floor and let it run - to get the “my house smells like *** cause i never bathe the dog, ‘out’ , after the dog gets a bath”

 

[mcbane]

If it actually generates ozone you might want to google “ozone damage”. Be prepared to replace all resilient rubber parts in everything you own.


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[Indexmill]

Why not just quit smoking and growing mold...

 

[pcmeiners]

"Be prepared to replace all resilient rubber parts in everything you own."

BS, you read a couple articles off Google but not enough. Ozone is in normal air around us, it does affect rubber etc over years, with ozone generators your not leaving them on for long periods of time, and the ozone molecule breaks down in hours.

"do not use this around People, Plants, or Pets"

Part of common sense, you read instruction and info on the Internet. I stated you do not use this in an occupied area. As goes your reference to smelly dogs, if you don't bath your dog , don't bother trying to get rid of the smell. I have no animals.

 

[zendriver]

I haven't had to try it yet fortunately but I heard they are great for getting mouse stank out of the inside of an automobile. Or, any other smell for that matter.

The whole O-Zone damage the rubber sounds like horse ****

Sure it will damage rubber, but not in 20 minutes


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[davethorik]

Cracks me up that a proven technology is treated as witchcraft here lol...course if Milwaukee made an m18 ozone generator, typhoon would be here writing glowing reviews of it.

 

[rlitman]

...The whole O-Zone damage the rubber sounds like horse ****

Sure it will damage rubber, but not in 20 minutes...

ASTM D1171 calls for testing ozone resistance of rubber in a chamber for only 72 hours of exposure to 0.5 ppm. Ozone cleaning is performed at concentrations of at least 6 ppm for 3-4 hours duration, but rubber and plastic damage begins immediately.

Here is an example of a piece of nitrile (buna-n) rubber run through the ASTM D1171 test:

Just think of what your ozone is doing to every o-ring it can reach.

 

[dogdog]

Yes it does something like that to some of my rubber pieces when I used it...

 

[JiminAZ]

They do come with ratings of so many mg/hour of ozone produced. The one I bought puts out 12500 mg of ozone per hour.

I bought it to get cigarette smell out of a car that one of my kids bought. About 3 shock treatments later it had 98% nuked the smell. The beauty is that the ozone gets into the nooks and crannies and AC ducts and the fibers of the carpet and headliner and seat foam and whatever else is harboring the residue and chemically reacts with it.

They work. Before it was awful even after shampooing the carpets and upholstery. After ozone treatment on a hot or humid day you can just catch a hint of odor.


If you are around too much ozone your throat will start to burn. The way people usually screw this up is turning it on and leaving pets in the area.

 

[milwaukeephil]

Hunters use them to take their scent off their clothes so they don't spook their prey.

 

[pcmeiners]

Rlitman ,..,.

You should read more carefully, your fact are incorrect and so is your statement about the test pictures, you chose the wrong set of pictures

"Here is an example of a piece of nitrile (buna-n) rubber run through the ASTM D1171 test:"

That is a picture of an old piece of rubber which was affected over very long term, not over the test in 72 hours.

Please take the time to read/look correctly before posting, it takes time to correct fictitious posts.

 

[rlitman]

Rlitman ,..,.

You should read more carefully, your fact are incorrect and so is your statement about the test pictures, you chose the wrong set of pictures

"Here is an example of a piece of nitrile (buna-n) rubber run through the ASTM D1171 test:"

That is a picture of an old piece of rubber which was affected over very long term, not over the test in 72 hours.

Please take the time to read/look correctly before posting, it takes time to correct fictitious posts.

BS. Read the source for yourself:
https://www.applerubber.com/hot-top...-link-between-ozone-and-rubber-deterioration/
"Below are three examples of these materials after the 72 hour period"

Here's an image of a different rubber sample after only 48 hours of exposure:

 

[kythri]

rlitman: From your link, the initial picture you provided is not one of the three examples.

It's not the clearest, but, the three examples following the statement "Below are three examples of these materials after the 72 hour period" are EPDM rubber, silicone rubber and HNBR rubber - not nitrile (Buna-N) rubber.

So, you did describe the picture you provided incorrectly.

That said, it does go on to describe the picture you linked as follows:

"The final test specimen is a nitrile, which is not very ozone-resistant as evidenced by the growing cracks throughout the strained section of the test specimen. This sample would have the comparative rating of three, which is the worst rating that the specification can give. One can quickly understand that even if nitrile (buna-N) rubber is readily available, it might not be the best choice."

 

[rlitman]

rlitman: From your link, the initial picture you provided is not one of the three examples...

And that's relevant how? As you saw by reading further down, I linked the image from their fourth example (because who wants to see materials that passed the test?). I merely quoted their text stating that the samples were exposed for the standard 72 hours. Nothing more, nothing less, and none of that has any bearing on the fact that the image I claimed was cracked from 72 hours of exposure was indeed cracked through 72 hours of exposure. Would you have been happier if I cut out the "Below are three" and merely quoted: "examples of these materials after the 72 hour period"? Neither phrasing is any less factual.

Keep in mind that the thousands of images you can easily find online about ozone cracking over long periods of time (wikipedia has some nice examples) are also due to environmental exposures measured in the low parts per BILLION (if they could even be at detectable levels). The exposures in an accelerated aging ozone testing chamber more closely replicate what one would see in an enclosed space cleaned by an ozone generator.

And again, those first three test samples were unaffected. Then again, neither the chamber, nor the metal testing fixture were affected by the ozone either. Many materials stand up to ozone just fine, but some begin to be adversely affected almost before your eyes.

 

[kythri]

And that's relevant how? As you saw by reading further down, I linked the image from their fourth example (because who wants to see materials that passed the test?). I merely quoted their text stating that the samples were exposed for the standard 72 hours. Nothing more, nothing less, and none of that has any bearing on the fact that the image I claimed was cracked from 72 hours of exposure was indeed cracked through 72 hours of exposure. Would you have been happier if I cut out the "Below are three" and merely quoted: "examples of these materials after the 72 hour period"? Neither phrasing is any less factual.

I'm merely pointing out that I can see where a casual reading of the link you provided could cause someone to question your post - the example you provided was not one of the "Below are three examples".

You'll also note, I'm not arguing the meat of your post, I support it (with additional information from your link).

Don't get pissy because you bunged up your citation.

 

[rlitman]

...Don't get pissy because you bunged up your citation.

LOL. If I appear pissy, it's only because someone else was dumb enough to write "Below are three examples" only to be followed by four examples, and then you took me to task over THAT.

 

[Sevenhills1952]

I bought this one from Amazon a few weeks ago. It works well. That one without a case I would make one because you want a fan so it pulls air through it, past the plates that create ozone.
My grandparents old house was renovated a couple years ago, severe mold and mildew problem (black spots all over wallpaper). All cloth anything, furniture, beds, drapes were disposed of. Cleaning company used a large ozone generator in basement running a few days.
This one I have I've run in garage...one section had water spill/mold. Yesterday I loaned it to neighbor who had a large tote box full of moldy decorations. They have an extra old car...I told them put everything in it, set timer 90 minutes. Everything like new again.
Lightning produces ozone which is why it smells good outside after a storm.
Word of caution...ozone is a poisonous gas. You don't want people or pets around it. Put it in room or car, set timer, close it up quickly. When over wait a while, open doors, windows to air out.
The manual says the O3 ozone after a while separates to O2 oxygen.
My 93 Ford pickup farm truck was owned by a smoker. Ozone generator took care of smell.

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[kythri]

LOL. If I appear pissy, it's only because someone else was dumb enough to write "Below are three examples" only to be followed by four examples, and then you took me to task over THAT.

It's a shame that words have specific meanings and values, I suppose.

 

[mcbane]

"Be prepared to replace all resilient rubber parts in everything you own."



BS, you read a couple articles off Google but not enough. Ozone is in normal air around us, it does affect rubber etc over years, with ozone generators your not leaving them on for long periods of time, and the ozone molecule breaks down in hours.



"do not use this around People, Plants, or Pets"



Part of common sense, you read instruction and info on the Internet. I stated you do not use this in an occupied area. As goes your reference to smelly dogs, if you don't bath your dog , don't bother trying to get rid of the smell. I have no animals.

If only it were so simple as saying “BS” to make a costly problem go away. I used to work for a water company that ran ozone generators for municipal water treatment. Lots of materials couldn’t take ozone exposure so careful design review required to ensure ozone would not destroy equipment. Special ozone destruction units required by air board to prevent ozone emissions.

BTW, I didn’t say anything about smelly dogs. Maybe try to lighten up.


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[Aileron]

I only use my rubber once. You can buy a small ozone generator on Ebay used for cleaning cpap masks for around 49 or so if you just need it to push ozone into a container.

 

[pcmeiners]

Never stated or implied ozone does not cause damage. Easily seen on many types of rubber in many things we use every day.

But using a generator to remove odors, as infrequently as prescribed is not going to cause you " to replace all resilient rubber parts in everything you own.".

"BTW, I didn’t say anything about smelly dogs." I did not start that either

 

[Air21]

Ozone will also react with moisture and cause bleaching on some materials. We used to use it as a final process when cleaning rugs soiled with pet urine, if they weren't completely dry you could wreck some expensive stuff...

 

[Vvmvbb]

Here’s a neat real world example: Porsche 964 had the dual distributor connected by a belt that would fail prematurely due to ozone produced by the arcing. There’s a TSB to install a vent, and the vent went into the 993 (the model after the 964j.