P&C Stuff

[r_olson_06]

Well provided the USPS can get them here, I’ll just be missing the #2824 and the #131 electrical wrench.
I think Catfishdan is sending the 2818 and the 2810, and I bought a couple electrical wrenches from the auction house.

Dang. No dice. Good luck.

Looking for a Round Beam Plomb 1068 Double Box End Wrench

 

[r_olson_06]

Picked up this early P&C wrench at the swap. First one I have seen stamped with Milwaukie Oregon. Does anybody need this one?

Looking for a Round Beam Plomb 1068 Double Box End Wrench

 

[Provincial]

Dang, if that had been an 11/16, I'd be all over it! That is the size I need to fill my #12 set of 15-- wrenches.

If I got that one from you, I'd be going down a real rabbit hole, needing 19/32, and 13/16 in addition to the 11/16 in order to make the complete #15 set.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

6 or 12 point?

 

[Provincial]

6 point is what I need. I can't see enough of his to tell which it is.

 

[Boogerman]

P & c

 

[Username already in use]

I bought a lot of deep sockets from the auction house recently. Should have them in a few days.

The DOE board is getting close. Thanks to Catfishdan for the recent additions!

 

[JjKk40]

Big 'ol wrench I picked up rescently!

 

[Outlawmws]

UAIU; only three to go, then a zilloin dupes to look "Store Correct"

 

[Username already in use]

UAIU; only three to go, then a zilloin dupes to look "Store Correct"

Exactly what I was thinking!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Exactly what I was thinking!

Well, once you finally complete the set, as luck would have it, at the very next sale or swap you attend, you will find a bunch of wrenches to add to the board for that store look. This almost always happens to me.

 

[Provincial]

Yesterday was a good flea market day.

P&C 3R rubber hammer (for tire and rim work). The handle has been replaced, but the head and rubber are in good shape.

P&C 1528 short L 6-pt. "7-8" wrench. The handle is 8-1/2" long, and quite stout. My earlier one has a more slender handle that is 11-1/2" long. All the catalog references I have checked show the 11-1/2" handle.

With the dash in the size marking instead of a slash, it should indicate earlier production. My earlier ones have no size marking, and the logo is on the handle. This one has both on the outside of the "socket."

 

[jabberwoki]

Damn i`ve got the board for that hammer , they never show up.
User, whats the number on the small wrench for your board ? i`ll check my stash.

 

[Username already in use]

User, whats the number on the small wrench for your board ? i`ll check my stash.

Right now, I'm missing the #131 electrical wrench and the #2824 DOE.
Thanks for checking!

 

[Forgottonia]

I actually had never noticed P&C brand before. This afternoon I grabbed an old adjustable wrench to take off a hydraulic connection, and low and behold:

I've had this little wrench laying around for a long time. I wonder if I have any other P&C stuff laying around.

 

[jabberwoki]

Bam i have a nice shinny 2824 but the only 131 i have is on my carousel.
Pm me your addy and i`ll send it on.

 

[stormking]

Looks great username, I know how it goes on finding the last piece, a 131 was the last wrench I needed to fill my board also. I don't know why that one is especially hard to find.

 

[Username already in use]

Thanks stormking! I’ve got a watch on the auction house for the 131. Hopefully one will pop up (reasonably priced) sometime soon.

 

[d42jeep]

Even though I don’t collect P&C, here is a little wrench I’ve been hanging onto for a while.
-Don

 

[Username already in use]

Even though I don’t collect P&C, here is a little wrench I’ve been hanging onto for a while.
-Don

“Little”

 

[MR.X]

So I burned a favor and asked Rileysan to pick up a set of old P&C from a poorly advertised lot I had won with opening bid ($10.00) from a Portland area auction house. Upon further review I realized that I had a spare toolbox from the era ( these sets started showing up in the 1928 catalog and ran til the 31. Earlier sets were in wood boxes). So here's pics of the tools as received, the tools in my spare box, the new set side by side with a previous estate sale buy, and the last pic is an interesting detail. The sockets are marked with sizes, (no logo), the fonts are different on the 2 sets and on both appear almost shop added, and on my older set, the 2 smallest sizes only are marked with the older U.S.S. / S.A.E. Cap Screw sizes (in this case 1/4 = 7/16, 5/16 = 1/2) rather than the modern AF measurements.
Looks like all the new set is missing is a long bend L wrench and the longer speeder which I probably have buried somewhere.

 

[Provincial]

You ****, Mr. X!!!!

 

[four.cycle]

very nice.

is that exaggerated flare at the business end of those extensions a "P & C" thing?

 

[jabberwoki]

Yes the X man do sucketh .
I`ll bet Rileysan was burning having to hand it over.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Nice score!

 

[MR.X]

You ****, Mr. X!!!!

Thank You.

 

[MR.X]

very nice.

is that exaggerated flare at the business end of those extensions a "P & C" thing?

Thanks, and.... Not sure, I usually take a second look at any pre chrome extension with that shape to see what's up...

 

[MR.X]

Yes the X man do sucketh .
I`ll bet Rileysan was burning having to hand it over.

Steve! what's up?!
I think finding out I had the box for it probably was the icing but really it's symbiotic, when I pull some nice Craftsman he gets first shot.

 

[MR.X]

Nice score!

Thanks.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I hit a sale on the way out of town to a vacation rental spot....my wife really wasn't happy with me but my gut instinct was correct ....all this plus a few other non thread correct items for $15.... Regrettably, one of my best finds didn't make it home with me. I found an early logo straight handle hack saw. It was black with a straight wood handle...the logo was on the body of the saw and it had black, yellow and red lettering. I am not sure if I accidently mis placed it or if someone purposely took it out of my box when I was looking through a roll away that most of the tools came from. At any rate , I was still excited to come away with this many items in about 20 minutes of picking. If I had known how cheap the prices were going to be, I would have grabbed a bunch of combo wrenches that I didn't take because they were duplicates. I haven't cleaned up anything yet
-3 different tappet wrenches
-2 different round shank dbe's
-flare nut wrench
-various sockets and phillips socket bits
-1428 body hammer! Probably my favorite find of this lot

 

[Username already in use]

Nice! That body hammer with the original handle is sweet!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Nice! That body hammer with the original handle is sweet!

Heck Yeah! It should clean up well...the rust is just surface rust and the head is tight. Some knuckle dragger used it on something non sheet metal so there are a few pits in the face of it but overall it is in good shape. I have a proto la body hammer board...does this mean I need to find a p&c body hammer board now to fill out ?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Nice haul, Smoke.

So I burned a favor and asked Rileysan to pick up...

I wish one of you PNW gang guys could get him to answer my PMs and emails!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Nice haul, Smoke.


I wish one of you PNW gang guys could get him to answer my PMs and emails!

Thanks!

 

[d42jeep]

I found a couple of DBE wrenches on Friday at an estate sale. Even though I can’t document for certain that the N85 was made for the Navy, it went into the Navy box.
-Don

 

[Smokeshow69]

I found a couple of DBE wrenches on Friday at an estate sale. Even though I can’t document for certain that the N85 was made for the Navy, it went into the Navy box.
-Don

I believe any "N" code p&c wrench is navy. I do have some WF marked p&c which follows the same plomb convention of "wright field" .. I think you are on the right track!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

We had a long conversation about this topic earlier in the thread, I posted the P&C WWII contract records, and I started a running list of examples found. Empirically, there are actually more of the N- series DBE wrenches than WF- wrenches, fewer socket drives tools, though, so far. Also, the length specs are different. But the sizes DO correlate to the same part numbers. The most interesting thing is that the N- series wrenches imply that the WF- series numbering scheme probably came from Plomb, not the Air Corps. Because P&C used the same system for a completely different technical branch (Navy). See pages 19-22. Don was involved in tall that. I think he is hedging because we don't have anything that directly indicates that the P&C Navy contracts produced the N- series wrenches. The thing is, we don't anything like that for the Plomb Air Corps contracts correlating to the Wright Field (WF) wrenches, either. That, too, was only inference. Big difference is the Navy N- series is far less acknowledged, let alone as popular as the Air Corp WF- series.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Picked up more from that sale I hit last week Turns out I missed alot of good stuff

various sockets
distributor wrench
lug nut flip socket
extensions
puller feet
brake spoon
1/4 drive extensions and t bar
snap ring sockets
ratchet
hinge handle
flare nut wrenches
hose clamp pliers
electrical wrenches

 

[Username already in use]

Nice haul of P&C goodness, Smoke. Any chance that one of the electrical wrenches is a #131?

 

[Smokeshow69]

Nice haul of P&C goodness, Smoke. Any chance that one of the electrical wrenches is a #131?

ehh, all I got was a 131 and a 135 You need both or just the 131 ?