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As I go trying to figure out where things live, time to start working on some sheet good storage. Given the layout I decided to put it on wheels, so that I could wheel it out of the way when needed, and also wheel it into the main space when unloading sheet goods.

Would have loved to get better casters, but hoping that these 170lbs each ones will do the job.
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Just working on the small sheets bins on one side, haven't yet figured out how I might divide them yet.
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Should have enough storage for 20 or so full sheets.
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So nice to have some real estate to work in!
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Nice plywood storage system!
 
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Was wanting some different background noise today, so moved over and set up the shop computer. I have plans for a sit down assembly bench in this area. It will be U-shaped where the compressor qnd current bench are, and dedicated to delicate work such as electrical testing, RC cars, 3d printing, etc. The computer will also live there and allow me to create CNC and 3DP programs, etc.

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Is your Pratt and Whitney Lathe made by Pratt and Whitney or one used by Pratt and Whitney? I ask because my dad spent 30 some odd years at their East Hartford plant.
 

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Wonderful shop you have there, time it took to build is one thing but the door issue is insane although you are a bit out in the woods. Finished my little 1,144sf shop a couple years ago and felt so good to also get out of the 40' container! Love that lathe! I thought I spent too much at 45k but you get what you pay for! Congratulations and well done!
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Wonderful shop you have there, time it took to build is one thing but the door issue is insane although you are a bit out in the woods. Finished my little 1,144sf shop a couple years ago and felt so good to also get out of the 40' container! Love that lathe! I thought I spent too much at 45k but you get what you pay for! Congratulations and well done!
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Thanks for the note. I think if I had built a couple of years earlier I'd have knocked 25% off the price pretty easily. Things just got insane in this area for construction, and prices for labour has nearly doubled. Would have loved to go larger, but I think this will work nicely now that I'm in it. Just need to organize, which on this scale can take a long time!

I was in 850sqft of shop space prior to the build. It wasn't bad just couldn't do a few things I wanted to. I'm sure your 1144sqft space would have fit my needs really well, but I couldn't justify spending so much only for a few square feet more, lol. Scaling the size up is relatively cheap once you've committed to building something.
 

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As a fellow lathe owner, I am impressed by your lathe, it is a very nice piece of machining equipment!

I've got a 1953 South Bend 9A lathe I restored a few years back, as well as 1969 Wells-INDEX 745 Mill I also restrored and an old 1968 South Bend 13 waiting for me to spruce it up. Sure is handy to have machining equipment around when you need it!
 
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It finally happened! Installers showed up at 9am this morning, and left at about 5:30. And installation went smoothly. Good guys and they did a fine job. Despite the many delays and long wait, we finally have a working garage door only 9 months (nearly to the day) from time of order.

From this:

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To this - Door in question is 14'x14' Steelcraft TD138.
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First time using one of these wall mount openers, and already love it. Nice piece of kit, and really quiet.
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Can't say the overall experience was one I want to repeat, but just looking forward at this point!
 
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It finally happened! Installers showed up at 9am this morning, and left at about 5:30. And installation went smoothly. Good guys and they did a fine job. Despite the many delays and long wait, we finally have a working garage door only 9 months (nearly to the day) from time of order.

Door in question is 14'x14' Steelcraft TD138.
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First time using one of these wall mount openers, and already love it. Nice piece of kit, and really quiet.
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Can't say the overall experience was one I want to repeat, but just looking forward at this point!
That is very exciting, glad you finally got your doors after all the delays, congrats!
 

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Finally!

I'm sure the project list has been getting pretty long in the last 9 months. Good luck putting the new doors to work and starting to move stuff through the shop.
 

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My buddy scared me so bad when his garage sat open for months waiting on doors during covid. I ordered doors a week prior to ordering building in April last year. Doors showed up end of May, and building still isnt up yet lol. Glad you got it sealed in. I need to order my openers also and plan to use the side mount liftmaster openers. Looking good in there !
 
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Some additional door details for those looking in the future.

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Pretty impressed with the liftmaster products as a whole. I know this is a premium garage door opener, but it really delivers on that. The controller here is programmable and has some nice features. Attached the whole system is a wireless LED light that just needs a 120v outlet and will be triggered by the motion sensor on the controller. Really nice to be able to mount that where it makes the most sense, and have it trigger on whenever I enter the building (as per most openers). An elegant product.
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Electronic deadbolt as part of the kit as well. I like this solution too, well thought out and everything has a manual override. Not that it will be required as the opener itself has an onboard battery backup so it can operate during a power outage.
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And just some additional content. Found an used plow and mounted it to my 2022 Grizzly. I cannot believe I've lived this long without a proper snow plow. Check back to the start of the thread for some driveway scale... ;) I can do the entire driveway, behind the house, parking areas, etc. in about 35min with this setup. Beats the heck out of the track loader or tractor for snow clearing! (and it's fun)
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I am pulling trigger on 2 8500s as we speak. Price just dropped on them on Amazon. Seem to be great openers and with no center track in the way the extra space is much appreciated. My last opener also had the MYQ app and could be opened from my phone. I loved that feature and I could open and close door for buddies dropping by to grab stuff when I was at work or on the boat.
 
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I am pulling trigger on 2 8500s as we speak. Price just dropped on them on Amazon. Seem to be great openers and with no center track in the way the extra space is much appreciated. My last opener also had the MYQ app and could be opened from my phone. I loved that feature and I could open and close door for buddies dropping by to grab stuff when I was at work or on the boat.
I sure am happy with it. Super quiet as well. Haven't set up the app yet but if you have the need, that's awesome. Also can be set up with Amazon deliveries so your packages aren't being left on the porch and at risk of theft. Not a concern where I live though!
 
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A few more updates and organization... not too much time in the shop lately as work has ramped up.

A bit more moving stuff around, cleanup and setup... no where near the final iteration here yet, lol.
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Working on some additional material storage options.
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CNC router up and running again, with the (mandatory) dust collection.
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Wife and I spent a day on Bowen Island this last November, I'm sure that is pretty close to you.

Beautiful country for this Mid-Western USA man.
(I work for a company out of Coquitlam, so make it to BC 1-2 times a year)

Nice Shop, glad to see you finally got your door.
 
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Wife and I spent a day on Bowen Island this last November, I'm sure that is pretty close to you.

Beautiful country for this Mid-Western USA man.
(I work for a company out of Coquitlam, so make it to BC 1-2 times a year)

Nice Shop, glad to see you finally got your door.
You bet, very close indeed!

I'm incredibly biased, but I've seen a more of the world than most, and I can say with great conviction that I live in one of the best places on earth. I'm sure there are better out there, but not many!
 

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You bet, very close indeed!

I'm incredibly biased, but I've seen a more of the world than most, and I can say with great conviction that I live in one of the best places on earth. I'm sure there are better out there, but not many!
Agreed, i am fortunate to live here also and enjoy the BC senery each day.
 
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Well next task, move the 4800lbs Pratt & Whitney Model C over to the new shop... this has always been a real bear to move. In the past I've used a pallet jack, tilt deck truck, crane truck, etc. This time, going to go with what I have at my disposal...

To start built myself a really crude toe jack. Existing method involved using the 1" levelling screws to lift the lathe 8" in the air and build a pallet under it. Now, to speed that up:

The welds are embarrassingly bad. 3/8" plate with 0.023" wire and a 65A welder. But I did get by.
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Stripped the machine down as much as I could, hopefully 4-500lbs removed because my track loader will only do 4400lbs tops.
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This is the chasm... move from one shop to the other.
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Track loader fit into the garage with a good 1/2" clearance (once I let all the air out of the tires) on the top! Hadn't tried that before this time around, clearance is clearance.
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Not bad! 15000lbs of moving fun.
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You can see here the fir pallet I made in order to properly support and move the machine. I've been toting these 4x4's around for nearly 15 years now.
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Lathe in its new home. Still power and a few odds and ends to sort out.
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Nice work moving the lathe that is one heavy machine.

I hate when I have to move my mill or lathe and they aren't as heavy as yours either.

For my wells-index 745 mill (2,100lbs), I made a rolling base with leveling feet that I can lower when its in place. Never had a problem with it moving or shaking and it makes it a lot easier if I need to shuffle around, although not to far since its hard wired to a VFD (15ft cord length).

I'm going to build one for my South bend 13 as well once I get it restored.
 
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Nice work moving the lathe that is one heavy machine.

I hate when I have to move my mill or lathe and they aren't as heavy as yours either.

For my wells-index 745 mill (2,100lbs), I made a rolling base with leveling feet that I can lower when its in place. Never had a problem with it moving or shaking and it makes it a lot easier if I need to shuffle around, although not to far since its hard wired to a VFD (15ft cord length).

I'm going to build one for my South bend 13 as well once I get it restored.

Thanks! Yeah it's not a small endeavour. Generally it's a full day job between stripping it down, moving it to a suitable position, jacking, pallet, moving and then the reverse process. That's not even taking into account properly levelling it. I've moved it 4 times now! But the toe jack this last time saved a bunch of time, as would a rolling base or similar. Though the lathe is more sensitive to level than a mill would be, so would have to allow for levelling after.

what yr is your SVl? looks just like mine

The SVL is a 2014 with 1480hours on it. I bought it used in advance of the shop build as I knew I'd have a lot of jobs for it, and I could offset a few thousand dollars of work by not paying for someone else's machine and time. It's been flawless. Not sure whether I can justify keeping it long term, but will certainly need it a few more years at least. If money was no object I'd keep it regardless. Perhaps I'm just waiting hoping my lottery ticket wins. ;)
 

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Im glad to hear its held up since you've had it. I have a 2016 with just under 1500k hrs. Love the dang thing. Im keeping mine long term going to start a business in a few yrs but i have a bunch of work around the house till then. Not to mention my buddies who need work done. I hope you keep it.
 

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You bet, very close indeed!

I'm incredibly biased, but I've seen a more of the world than most, and I can say with great conviction that I live in one of the best places on earth. I'm sure there are better out there, but not many!
100% agree! Before Covid, I was travelling regularly for work and vacation.. something like 30 countries so far, and while it is always bittersweet to leave a foreign place and have to head home, as soon as the plane would descend on final approach to YVR and the Cypress/Grouse/Seymour mountains and Georgia Strait come into view, I get indescribably thankful to be returning to this place we luckily get to call home.
 
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Im glad to hear its held up since you've had it. I have a 2016 with just under 1500k hrs. Love the dang thing. Im keeping mine long term going to start a business in a few yrs but i have a bunch of work around the house till then. Not to mention my buddies who need work done. I hope you keep it.
On the fence. I have so many jobs right now that could use a mini excavator for, and there certainly is a temptation to sell the skid steer and get a mini ex. Ideally I'd have both at the same time, but I spent all my money on the shop!
 
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Been busy times, too much bandwidth used at work which means not enough left for shop. It's been a trying time, but am finding as the weather gets nicer I'm spending more and more time out in the shop. And looking to ensure I continue! ;)

Mostly tackling electrical, added a 50A welding plug (along with the existing 30A one), a few standard 20A outlets and wired up the Pratt & Whitney Model C.

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Enough to keep me busy. Ended up feeding the lathe overhead, so I could create another "aisle" in the working area of the shop.

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Also ran 4 CAT6 lines through the underground conduit to the house, and got them all terminated and connected to the switch there. Lo and behold I have a wired connection for my mesh node now, and can use wifi with the door closed, lol. This location is temporary for the node, but I haven't done any of the CAT6 hardlines in the shop yet. Will run those to the CNC router, future office space and the shop floor computer spot at minimum.

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And finally, added a shop TV I had laying around. I actually think this will increase my productivity (if today is any indication) out in the shop, rather than reduce it. Just means I can spend hockey games out here working and catch it all, rather than sitting in the living room. It's been 8 years since I had a shop TV, and it was great at that time! So far it's been well worth the effort.

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A bit more wall painting to do still now that I put the last couple sheets of plywood up. Then I'll install the other speaker and have a few hundred more watts of sound system at my disposal. :)
 
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Been busy times, too much bandwidth used at work which means not enough left for shop. It's been a trying time, but am finding as the weather gets nicer I'm spending more and more time out in the shop. And looking to ensure I continue! ;)

Mostly tackling electrical, added a 50A welding plug (along with the existing 30A one), a few standard 20A outlets and wired up the Pratt & Whitney Model C.

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Enough to keep me busy. Ended up feeding the lathe overhead, so I could create another "aisle" in the working area of the shop.

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Also ran 4 CAT6 lines through the underground conduit to the house, and got them all terminated and connected to the switch there. Lo and behold I have a wired connection for my mesh node now, and can use wifi with the door closed, lol. This location is temporary for the node, but I haven't done any of the CAT6 hardlines in the shop yet. Will run those to the CNC router, future office space and the shop floor computer spot at minimum.

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And finally, added a shop TV I had laying around. I actually think this will increase my productivity (if today is any indication) out in the shop, rather than reduce it. Just means I can spend hockey games out here working and catch it all, rather than sitting in the living room. It's been 8 years since I had a shop TV, and it was great at that time! So far it's been well worth the effort.

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A bit more wall painting to do still now that I put the last couple sheets of plywood up. Then I'll install the other speaker and have a few hundred more watts of sound system at my disposal. :)
Your shop is Looking great!
 

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I'm jealous -- not only a shop TV, but nice speaker(s) as well!

I'm glad you're getting to use the shop more, especially now that the door is installed.
 
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Waaaaay overdue for an update or two. Sorry folks, it's been quite the year. Work ended up getting quite bad for me, and was all consuming. I ended up taking a step away, which has been life changing.

I realize just how much progress I have made in the shop over this time, and don't dare post and document it all retroactively. Instead, I'm going to share the shop as it sits today, messy as F, and being used. Current project is building an aluminum camper to get out into the wilderness a bit.

Installed a 36,000 BTU/h mini-split this spring, with a couple of goals in mind. Basic heat to provide freeze protection so I could turn on the plumbing to the building (not yet done), and also to stop the rust I am seeing on all my tools. Then we proceeded right into summer, so other than running the A/C for a week during the heat wave (a 25°C shop on a 30°C day is actually quite nice) it hasn't really done too much yet.
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A general state of the entry door, lay down area, storage, etc. A bit of a mess visually, but functioning well.
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And speaking of visually cluttered, a lot going on in this photo in the fab area. It's turned into a temporary metal cutting area behind the lathe, something that I may or may not keep there, but I do want to get a station setup long term.
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A photo of the fab area from the other side, and showing much of the shop. The welding table has seen a lot of use lately. I've been through 2lbs of 3/32" 4043 TIG rod lately.... and you can see why, upside down on the right.
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This is what happens when an old car guy builds a camper. Tube frames it. LOL. Lots of lessons learned on this project, and the first aluminum TIG project I've ever really done. Lots more work to do... The camper is upside down in these photos and I'm putting on the floor skin at the moment.
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That's all for today, but there are lots of updates to give and I will do my best to post some more here over the coming days. The largest change to the shop (still in progress) isn't even photographed yet!
 
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Looks like a lot of progress on/in the shop.
Camper looks good -- that's a big project!

I'm jealous of your mini-split -- I'll bet that A/C felt good during the heat wave, and a warm(er) shop will be so nice to work in over the winter.
 
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Looks like a lot of progress on/in the shop.
Camper looks good -- that's a big project!

I'm jealous of your mini-split -- I'll bet that A/C felt good during the heat wave, and a warm(er) shop will be so nice to work in over the winter.

Camper is a result of me going camping in a truck tent, and liking the idea but not the leaks. I sat there in the rain by the fire for a day or two, solo camping and thought "I'm really enjoying this". Then I looked at the tent, and thought, I could do better... and spent my time designing in my head.

The end result should look like a contractors canopy, but actually be a full camper that has slide outs, etc. Completely an urban stealth camper as well, for "I don't know why" kindof reasons. Planning to roadtrip and overland a bit! It won't be spacious on the inside. :)
 

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I'd imagine you go through a bit of firewood out there.
I'm going to have to break out the saw and splitter here soon as well.
 
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I'd imagine you go through a bit of firewood out there.
I'm going to have to break out the saw and splitter here soon as well.

Not too bad. Last winter we used just a shade over 2 cords. The winter before was around 3. We're coastal and south, which is much more temperate, so not the same heating requirements as other places in the province. In some places I've lived you could double or triple that each winter...

We also don't have a ton of hardwood for firewood, just about everything is douglas fir. Not terrible, but can't compare with the heating energy from oak, maple, cherry, hickory, etc that seems more prevalent in the East and South.

As for the splitter... I still swing mine. LOL.
 
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