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Paint Booth - Painting a Jeep

Jayhawk_Aviator

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Have an old CJ that I am slowly in the process of restoring. It's not a show car, so i'm wondering about painting it myself. I've dont a lot of projects, just not paint. How difficult is it for a beginner? Since I have to replace some parts anyway, would it be easier to pain the hood, fenders, etc. separate; or try to paint it all at once?

Im thinking of a Devilbiss Starting Line gun to start. Any suggestions for cost effective DIY paint booth that could fit a CJ? Options for where to get the paint?

Thanks
Scott
 
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Hang up some plastic & put a fan in one side & a filtered opening on the other end.
The harbor freight purple gun is ok if you only plan on painting one vehicle.

Go to your local autobody / auto paint supplier for materials.
 

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Really need to figure out what paint system you are going to use first. Some systems have enough toxicity that you need high dollar PPE to prevent poisoning yourself. That can include full body suits and supplied air breathing systems. Anyone that tells you that you don’t need the proper PPE, is not someone to listen to.

We shoot and bush a lot of different stuff at work. We’ve had people turn up so sensitive to some materials, that simply opening the fire cabinet it’s stored in, will set them off. Read, understand and adhere to the PPE requirements......You got to look out for yourself.:thumbup:
 

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Really need to figure out what paint system you are going to use first. Some systems have enough toxicity that you need high dollar PPE to prevent poisoning yourself. That can include full body suits and supplied air breathing systems. Anyone that tells you that you don’t need the proper PPE, is not someone to listen to.

We shoot and bush a lot of different stuff at work. We’ve had people turn up so sensitive to some materials, that simply opening the fire cabinet it’s stored in, will set them off. Read, understand and adhere to the PPE requirements......You got to look out for yourself.:thumbup:

One thing to keep in mind that doing ONE paint job isn't the same as doing it day in and day out. Use your head, take reasonable precautions, don't go crazy for a one time use.
 

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We painted our CJ5 in a plastic wrapped carport. Since we were going with an olive drab military style result we were not too concerned with dust. Came out pretty good and 6 years later has aged rather nicely.
 

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You don't need a spray booth. I've painted plenty of vehicles to 99-100% perfection without one, not even hanging plastic. Mostly trucks and lesser quality vehicles but did do a single stage car a couple of years ago that came out perfect. All in a regular shop environment. Helped/did a Vette 20 years ago in BC/CC, it came out perfect.

Shoot in in a good single stage, your biggest problem will be drips, runs and orange peel, not dirt. Most of your problems will come out with wet sand/buff, especially on something as small as a Jeep. I use PPG DelFleet ESS SS, but I've also shot cheaper Kirker SS that came out well. I have a Devillbiss gun but rarely use it, most of the time I use the purple HF cheapie. I shot a small panel on a Vette Friday that came out perfect using ESS and the HF gun.
 

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One thing to keep in mind that doing ONE paint job isn't the same as doing it day in and day out. Use your head, take reasonable precautions, don't go crazy for a one time use.

Doesn't matter, as a single exposure event can harm you just as much as several hundred exposures. Read the SDS for whatever system you choose and see what it says.

Jayhawk: There are dozens and dozens out there. High VOC, Low VOC, ISO, PolyIso, enamels, lacquers, Single and multipart epoxies, water borne epoxies and so on...All behave different, spray different and have different requirements. Got to figure out what you want to accomplish and how much you are willing to spend to get it, in both labor and $'s. Imron AF3500, which is an isocyanate paint, runs 1000$ a gallon, while Duplicolor ready to spray lacquer is 25$ a gallon. There are lots of variations inbetween.

As to difficulty, that varies by product and personal skills. I've shot primer for years, but when it comes to topcoat, I farm it out to guys that are way better than me.
 
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This is what just used to do a mini-bike paint job. The only trash that ended up in it came from my paint gun as I had just cleaned it and obviously didn’t get it throughly cleaned.
 

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...How difficult is it for a beginner? Since I have to replace some parts anyway, would it be easier to pain the hood, fenders, etc. separate; or try to paint it all at once?

Im thinking of a Devilbiss Starting Line gun to start. Any suggestions for cost effective DIY paint booth that could fit a CJ? Options for where to get the paint?

Not that 'hard' but a good job requires some planning and discipline. Figure out what and in what order the tasks are. You don't have to paint every piece at once unless you want to.
I would paint removable pieces separately.
cheap HF gun is sufficient. BUT practice on something else first until you get a handle on pressure/thinning/pattern and so on for your environment.
No 'need' for a booth, the plastic is to keep paint off of other stuff.
There are many online paint suppliers but if you have a local store I would start there.

Good luck, You many not get it perfect (to you) but it is rewarding experience.
 
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I recently painted a smaller car ('72 914) in my garage. I'd never painted a car before, just small stuff and rattle cans. I'll pass on what I learned:

BOOTH
I have an HOA, so I made a paintbooth with 2x2's and plastic. I used house fans to circulate air. I spent about $200 or so on it. They have inflatable ones now for about $90 that come with everything you need. The booth keeps the paint off everything else and helps keep the dirt out. Don't forget to cover the floor.

PAINT
Go to a local supplier and they will give you "free" advice when you buy supplies. I used single stage auto paint. Ask for something decent, don't get the cheap stuff.

SPRAYGUN
I used the HF $70 gun. It worked, but I'd recommend buying a better one. Mine seems to be wearing out already. The one you mentioned is fine from what I hear. My HF detail gun broke on the third use, so I'm thinking of buying a better gun. I'm leaning toward the Astro Pneumatic EuroHVT1 (about $100). I used it for longer than I thought because I practiced. Use the paint and gun you are going to use. It's cheaper with water-based, but you want to practice with what you will actually use. I used a little less than 1.5 gallons of paint total on the car and when practicing.
Once you know how to paint, you will find yourself painting more stuff and wish you'd bought a better gun!

COMPRESSOR
Get a decent one. You need decent CFM. Mine is a 33 gallon that puts out 8.6/6.4 CFM @ 40/90 PSI. It cycled on all the time when painting, but it kept up.
You need some way of removing moisture from the tank. I hooked a 20' coiled hose to the tank, that went to a double moisture filter, that then went to my hose reel. From there I had the moisture filter, regulator then gun.

PAINTING
The HVLP guns work well at lower pressure. Find a distance and pressure that works. I found that about 15 psi and 6-8" away worked pretty good. Spray when it's about 70 or so degrees in the painting area. Don't spray when it's too hot; the paint will dry before it hits the surface and you will have terrible finish.
I used the slow reducer and hardener, even though they're for hot temps. They allow the paint to settle for longer. It takes longer to dry, but it's more forgiving for beginners.
It takes awhile for the paint to settle out to its final look. Paint, then clean your gun. Come back for a look and see how it looks.
I was told to wait about 15 minutes between coats. I would clean my gun and refill it in that time. Don't just put new paint in; the previous batch is hardening.

PREP
Sand and clean the surface. Then clean it again. Get lots of rags.
Get decent sandpaper. 3M makes good stuff. The auto paint store will have some.
Try using a guide coat to see where the low spots are. It's carbon black. Makes a mess, but shows you the low/high spots.
I used a combination of electric, air and hand sanding.

POST PAINT
If you spray it right, you will get no orange peel, or maybe just a touch. You will need to wetdsand it. I used 1000-1500-2000. I bought rolls of the good stuff. Softsanders.com has sanding blocks and the rolls. For polishing after sanding, find a "system" you like. I used Chemical Guys compounds with a TorqX polisher.

PPE
Respirator (I used a lower face one), hood, googles, coveralls, gloves. Mandatory. Don't mess around, just do it.
If you wear glasses, you will get paint on them, so wear an old pair that you can throw out when done. I kept my old pair until I was totally done painting the car. I tried to clean them off, but it's not easy.
I didn't wear anything while wet sanding, but did wear a face mask when polishing.

I'm sure I'll think of something I forgot.
 
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Dude I painted this Cj5 in my driveway with a harbor freight $15 purple gun. Zero issues.

I just painted another Cj2a in my garage using the same method.

So long as your prep is good, you'll have no issues. Prep is like 98%!

Another tip: Cut your paint with acetone, that way it flashes faster and you get less contamination.

I usually paint early, like around 6am before the wind kicks up, and then it has all day to cure in the sun.

As far as getting paint, depends on what your trying to do. For the Cj5 i used House of Kolour. For the Cj2a, it was GCI Marine Forest Green military paint.

Eastwood is also a great resource for paint and primers.
 

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I painted my Dodge truck inside my 2-car garage. I lined the walls and floor with clear plastic sheeting ($3 for 200 sq ft at Home Depot). I shot it with single stage then layed a few coats of clear over that. Bought all my supplies from Summit Racing and used a cheap HF purple spray gun. Came out really nice. Didn't cost more than $400 for everything.



 

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There was a good tutorial on finishing academy but once people understood the principle they might not have went to the school,, ha. Learning the basics of a booth and how to move air to ventilate it gets easy and simple, a paint booth is a negative pressure draw, needs the intake, air tuned to create flow.
 

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Fussing with some incense or other smelly stuff in a bedroom with fan in the window is a good way to grasp the concept. Let air in to the house and restrict it with the door, note too wide and it doesnt move, too tight no air moves. I have used rubber band on the door to set it.
 

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nice temporary "booth"

I was thinking the next time I need to spray something big to use my 12x24 canopy frame,that I made for swap meets, and cover with plastic.
 

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nice temporary "booth"

I was thinking the next time I need to spray something big to use my 12x24 canopy frame,that I made for swap meets, and cover with plastic.

That is basically what I did when I painted my 4Runner. I had a 10x20 portable garage tent thing. Some plastic, a couple of filters, a box fans and some drop lights and it made a great booth.

Don’t forget the floor. I did and my driveway had a very obvious orange tint from the overspray that was really hard to get rid of.
 

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Don't forget good lighting. It can be really hard to see against a strong back light (like the sun if you are on the shadow side looking towards sun) so have so 4' led daylight balanced lights available (cheap and bright).
 

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I'm about to put my temp booth up again for base and clear coats. I had the plastic pipe so all I had to do is buy a 7700 CFM fan, 6mill plastic and a piece of OSB. Oh, and some filters.

Like said, be careful of what kind of paint your using.
 

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Are there more than one different types of base/clear?


Yes tons. Recommend getting all products from primer to topcoat from same place so you know no issues.
As said check out Eastwood. Lots of clear instructions and lines.
I’m struggling with this as well. Materials are expensive so don’t want to mess it up. Consider talking to local macco and see how much it would be for them to shoot it and if you can buy materials. I just spent 20 hours on a quarter panel and scared my rookie paint try will negate my hard work.


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One thing to keep in mind that doing ONE paint job isn't the same as doing it day in and day out. Use your head, take reasonable precautions, don't go crazy for a one time use.

Bad advice!
 
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