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FORMUD

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Can I use a exterior Acrylic paint over a oil based primer sealer (Kilz) Or am I going to run into problems?
Thought I was getting an enamel paint.....Even asked the guy and he said it was.... Only after I got home and read the fine print, did I see it was Acrylic resin paint.
I guess next time I bring my reading glasses.:D

I'm painting over new OSB and new drywall.
 
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Yes, that's the preferred combination of coatings as a matter of fact. Though the kilz not necessarily needed on the sheetrock it's fine, and great on the osb. No reason to go with alkyd paints as a finish. They tend to yellow anyway and are not flexible so you have a greater chance of developing cracks.

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FORMUD

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How bad are these paints when it comes to breathability?
Are we talking dust mask or should I break of the real mask?
From what I've read, the Kilz smell to high hell....Does that mean it's the worst of the two?

Edit; I'm using a sprayer.
 
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IIRC there are 2 types of Kilz. One is a varnish base (which smells) and the other is a water based. Just make sure as I'm going off memory and I know I'm killing off thousands of brain cells every day
 

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IIRC there are 2 types of Kilz. One is a varnish base (which smells) and the other is a water based. Just make sure as I'm going off memory and I know I'm killing off thousands of brain cells every day

Ayuh,... I can't imagine sprayin' That stuff,...

Rollin' it on, with fans ventilatin' the room will still take yer breath away,..
Painted a closet once with it,... Got Higher than a kite,...
 
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Anytime you spray you should wear a full respirator with filters ment for paint. Dust masks are for dust. Lots of ventilation if you're using oil based.

Don't forget to back roll.
 
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Krodad

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I missed the fact that you said exterior paint...but you're painting the interior, correct?
If so, you should really be using interior paint on the interior...it's a more cleanable, durable paint in the ways that are important inside a shop or garage. Exterior paints are made to be more elastic than interior paints, and therefore tend to be less resistant to impact and certain types of abuse.

As for the smell with the Kilz, it's going to be noticeable for sure with the standard solvent based version, but open the doors and windows and have everything ready, then roll that sucker out and get done. No big deal. And you can just hold your breath the entire time instead of using a pesky respirator ; )
 

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Kilz oil is a interior primer used for stain blocking. You asked if you can use exterior latex on top of it. Is this a inside or outside paint job? If outside, skip the kilz. If inside your latex exterior paint will dry slow and smell quite a bit.
 
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FORMUD

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I guess I wan't very clear, it's all inside. I was assuming an exterior paint would be longer lasting.
It's kinda hard to figure out whats going to work the best....Sometimes you can get to many different opinions while search a topic.
 

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The Kilz oil-based primer will stink. When I have used it out in the garage, I roll it on and leave the garage, done for the day. The smell would give me a headache and about make me nauseous.

IMHO, it's damn good stuff though, maybe a little overkill for the interior of a house in regular duty.
 

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Exterior paint has fungicide in it to prevent mildew from rain/snow/fog. If the interior of your garage is so wet you need fungicide you've got more problems than just paint selection!

There's nothing wrong with using exterior paint inside a garage, it's simply not needed.

An oil primer with latex topcoat is a great combination. However, modern latex primers are as good as oil primers in many applications. A water based primer will swell OSB though, so you should only use an oil based one here.

Want to save money? Use a PVA (polyvinyl acetate) drywall "primer/sealer" for the drywall only. It has minimal hide but seals the paper facing and gives "tooth" for the topcoat. A PVA drywall sealer is cheaper than regular primer because it has less pigment in it. New drywall doesn't need a high hide. Old drywall with discolouration needs a stain blocking primer, or you'll be using multiple top coats to get an even colour.

So, use an oil based primer on the OSB and lay it on thick: it will absorb a lot. Use a drywall primer/sealer for the, um, drywall. :) Then top coat everything with the best quality latex topcoat you can afford. 100% acrylic is best, but don't pay extra for zero or low VOC paints, as their only benefit is less odor which is useful for hospitals, schools, etc but not necessary in a garage. Top coat with two full coats. The second top coat will use less paint than the first. If you do these steps you won't have to paint again for a very long time.
 
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