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asallwey

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Anybody still clean paint rollers? Just finished a latex project and cleaned the roller and brush. Took abut 15-20 minutes for the roller. Faster than a trip to HD (kind of my criteria) and not much fun, but it works. I haven't cleaned an oil based roller in years, not cost effective in my opinion. No, it wasn't the best roller, kind of a bottom end version.
 
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Do you have a roller spinner? Greatly speeds things up.
 

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Good roller covers are 10 bucks a piece and it is fast and easy to clean them.....as a pro, I had to clean covers daily when I had paint jobs going. The spinner and a cheap kitchen spray nozzle in a utility sink was key. A brush comb and sprayer for brushes that cost 20 bucks each. New roller covers **** as they can shed. Thinner is expensive so i would roll out the new roller covers on something disposable or hidden in case there were any loose fibers.

My frames and covers got cleaned every day even if using the same paint the next day. Keeping clean and well formed tools is vital to being able to do a nice finish and cut in with precision.

Lambs wool covers are great for water based finish. They hold a lot of paint, don't splatter much, don't shed, and last for a long time when cleaned and dried well. They would last years for a home owner.

Some people are afraid to spray the inside of a brush, but good ones hold up fine if shaken out by hand and hung to dry at least overnight and put back in the sleves to keep their shape. Not washing well enough causes build up and stiffness. A wire brush cleans the ferule and bristles and a steel comb untangles the bristles before shaking out.



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For some projects I buy cheap rollers and brushes. I'll wrap them in a plastic bag to reuse for doing 2nd or 3rd coat, even the next day. Putting them in the refrigerator also helps.

I do clean expensive brushes and rollers. Never timed the process but estimate it at much less than 15-20 minutes.
 

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I never clean the covers and the roller itself is like a time capsule for my paint jobs. If I was a pro, i would clean both.
 

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I buy nice Purdy rollers(and brushes) and clean/ reuses multiple times. My mother bought some cheap rollers to dispose of and they were terrible. Probably took 30%-40% longer to get the paint on and were more expensive per square foot to boot.
 

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heap Rollers IMHO, are not worth the time it takes to clean them and they don't do a good job of holding the paint.

Good Rollers are not cheap and are worth cleaning them carefully; again IMHO the life cycle cost of a good roller is less than that of a cheap roller.
 

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My rollers always look brand new when I'm done. Purdy for me, too. Keep in mind, if you're doing a job at someone else's place, the spinners can make a mess out of a slop sink in a hurry.

Tommy
 

yeldogt

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I buy good rollers for a project and lightly clean them if doing same color next day --- plastic bag in the refrigerator for the next coat. Top coat roller used for the next primer and then I toss.

I find no matter how much I clean they don't measure up for the next project if I let them dry out. A roller will last in the refrigerator for a long time .. clean it reasonably well and keep it wet ... couple drops of bleach if long term.

Even a good roller has a limit ...
 
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jeepinerdeep

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I normally scrap unless doing small interior work.

BUT- I may have to change that. My ACE is sold out of 4 and 9" paint rollers. Not a single one in stock.
 

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i keep mine in the freezer, got a shop refrigerator for cold drnks and a freezer compartment for latex paint rollers
 

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I clean my Purdy brushes and my good quality rollers with a technique i worked out.
After finishing the pant job i take the roller or brush to the sink. I put a good amount of Dawn dish soap on and spread that over the surface of the applicator where the paint is. Let sit for 10 minutes. Rinse the brush or roller. The paint just falls out. Rinse a time or two.
Then use a brush comb or a spinner or put the roller on a frame that is on a roller pole and spin the roller with leaf blower.
I hate painting, but this cleaning method has made painting less odious.
 

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Work oil based a a lot on the boats. Clean and reuse all.
*3 coffee cans each w/8oz spirits, labeled 1,2,3
*newspaper
* Unload brush on sawhorse legs
* Dip/swirl in can 1,wipe on paper
* Repeat in cans 2 and 3
*Roll brush handle quickly between palms
* comb and sleeve
Under 5 min for brushes.
** The solids will settle out of the spirits, which can be reused many times over.
If storing for long term - a final rinse in Lacquer Thinner or Acetone

Rollers- scrape down with 5 in 1 tool, unload as much as possible.
Ziploc bags with a couple oz thinner-same as cans above.
Spin dry or leave in bag o thinner if re coating over next day(s).



Epoxy Resin brush,roller,squeegees- go in a gallon can, half filled with Acetone- they last a long long time and save a lot of waste. Phenolic core only.
 

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asallwey

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Ok, the consensus is to clean rollers (and brushes of course). I've never tried a spinner for cleaning, have to look into it. I just applied a PVA sealer over drywall on 2 walls, and it was a cheap roller. It worked fine and cleaned up ok. I've used the bags and refrig method and it was fine for continuing work. I did see some tips here that I'll keep in mind. I appreciate all the suggestions.

How about another painting equipment issue. Do you wet a brush before using on latex paint (to prevent creep up to the top of the bristles)? I have, it does seem to help, but it thins the paint for the first 1/2 dozen strokes or so no matter how well I shake the brush. Any thoughts?
 

blacksporty

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Anybody still clean paint rollers? Just finished a latex project and cleaned the roller and brush. Took abut 15-20 minutes for the roller. Faster than a trip to HD (kind of my criteria) and not much fun, but it works. I haven't cleaned an oil based roller in years, not cost effective in my opinion. No, it wasn't the best roller, kind of a bottom end version.

Nope, a painter taught me to leave the roller in the paint can for use next time, also uses the small rollers for less spray coming off the roller as you roll.
 

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Nope, a painter taught me to leave the roller in the paint can for use next time, also uses the small rollers for less spray coming off the roller as you roll.

That's not a bad idea, though 12" rollers would need a 5 gallon pail to fit into and I don't know how you deal with 18" rollers. Yes, short nap is better if your surface is smooth. Long nap rollers get messy, but on deeply textured surfaces you don't have a choice.

I see all these comments about oil based paint. I use oil based from time to time and have dedicated oil brushes (brushes for "all paints" are too soft for oil IMHO which needs a natural bristle), but have never rolled it in bulk (I'll use a foam roller with Rustoleum on my patio furniture). Brush cleaning oil in mineral spirits is indeed very easy.

As for water based paint, I have no trouble cleaning my good brushes with warm water and Dawn, but I must be in the minority, because I've had terrible luck cleaning rollers. And I don't use **** rollers either. On plain sheetrock walls, I use Purdy White Dove. On my stucco textured interior plaster walls, I use Purdy Golden Eagle. It's just that no matter how much soap, water and energy I put into cleaning my rollers, I find they're always stained by the tint of the previous paint. That's fine if it was white, or if I'm re-using it on primer, but unacceptable if that tint can possibly transfer to my finish coat. For the cost of a roller (which is well under the cost of the paint), I'm not risking it.

I do extend the life of rollers though. I'll cover them in a plastic bag between sessions (even for a lunch break) to keep it from drying out. Double bagged, it's safe for about a week.

But I do agree with the lint comments. A fresh dry roller (or brush) from the package is not ready to use. It needs to be washed and spun dry. That removes any lint from rollers, and gets the deepest sections of a brush wet with water, so that they don't soak paint all the way up to the ferrule and get crusty inside.
 

yeldogt

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The best way to clean a good oil based brush is to use real thinner -- the odorless. I have large glass pickle jars of used thinner. I dump some out into a coffee can and clean off the brush -- dumping the used thinner into another empty jar. Repeat until the brush is clean -- the final rinse is fresh/ new product. After it sits for a few days -- it's almost like new and available for reuse. The last thing is to swish in real turpentine -- conditions the brush and you are good forever. I still have some of my grandfathers finishing brushes .. they used sable!
 
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The best way to clean a good oil based brush is to use real thinner -- the odorless. I have large glass pickle jars of used thinner. I dump some out into a coffee can and clean off the brush -- dumping the used thinner into another empty jar. Repeat until the brush is clean -- the final rinse is fresh/ new product. After it sits for a few days -- it's almost like new and available for reuse. The last thing is to swish in real turpentine -- conditions the brush and you are good forever. I still have some of my grandfathers finishing brushes .. the used sable!

+1 for real OMS. I can't say I've used a dip in turpentine though. Clean OMS always leaves my brushes silky clean. As with my water comment above, I dip and spin out (spinning a brush between your palms shakes out liquid without knotting up the bristles, unlike flicking) my brushes in OMS BEFORE I dip them in paint. I've got a number of brushes that were somebody's grandfather's (just not mine) that are WAY better than anything sold in box stores today).

Yes, exactly, old paint will settle out in a clear jar of OMS over time shockingly well. You pour that into a clean jar and rotate with each cleaning project.

I have a gallon of "non-flammable" paint thinner. It's not useful for thinning or brush cleaning, but it is good for cleaning your skin of oil based paint, where real OMS will strip more of your skins oils. Anyway, for those who don't know the difference, beware of the non-flammable stuff. It's awful on brushes.
 

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I have a gallon of "non-flammable" paint thinner. It's not useful for thinning or brush cleaning, but it is good for cleaning your skin of oil based paint, where real OMS will strip more of your skins oils.

I used to keep a tub of petroleum jelly in my brush box for cleaning oil paints off my skin. When painting overhead, I would get roller spray on my face and it only took one time using thinner to realize it burnt my skin.

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