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Freefallin2000

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Hey guys, my garage just got skip troweled. I taped everything off last night with FrogTape and began laying Killz primer. I got the ceiling and one of the walls primered. I am using a Behr premium 9" 5/8" roller. How often should I clean or change the roller? And how thick or thin to apply primer? Only have about half left so need it to last.
 
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I don't clean a roller until the job is done. If it's time to quit but the job isn't done I cover the roller with a plastic bag and stick it in the frig or freezer, depending on how long it will be before painting can resume.
 

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Hey guys, my garage just got skip troweled. I taped everything off last night with FrogTape and began laying Killz primer. I got the ceiling and one of the walls primered. I am using a Behr premium 9" 5/8" roller. How often should I clean or change the roller? And how thick or thin to apply primer? Only have about half left so need it to last.

Sounds like you may be about a wall short on primer. I would not skimp on it. You'll end up with a better paint job. You're aready saving money by doing it yourself, right?
 

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For primer on wallboard, I like like oil base as it absorbs into the paper and gypsum forming a tighter bond for the paper to gypsum. Especially with oil base I do not want an air tight surface so moisture does not become an issue between the topcoat and the oil base surface, so I never go for complete a complete seal, as you would get with a heavy coat or two light coats. I lay on a light but even coat, you should be able to see seams pencil marks etc easily. With Killz primer, I thin it down a bit and use a low nap roller, straight from the can it is to thick. Killz is a good choice, as other oil primers can get rather expensive, and no better. Would not worry if you applied it heavy, as it is an interior, the moisture issue is primarily with exterior painting. As to the topcoat, I assume your using latex, I find it easier to do two light coat, again with low nap roller, which are getting harder to find. With the topcoat, apply one full coat with a brush (older the better, as the split ends of a well used brush give the best coverage) for the trim, let dry, then the rolling goes very quick. Primarily I use low nap rollers, as high naps leave to much paint on the wall, twice the work to make sure you get full cover with one coat, lastly it much harder to make the roller marks disappear with high naps/heavy coat.
 
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Freefallin2000

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I threw some sarran wrap over the roller befor I left for work this morning. So are you guys saying I can continue to use the same rollor to finish the rest of the garage? I am pretty happy with how the primer is going on thus far, I am just going to thin it down with water a bit.
 
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I threw some sarran wrap over the roller befor I left for work this morning. So are you guys saying I can continue to use the same rollor to finish the rest of the garage? I am pretty happy with how the primer is going on thus far, I am just going to thin it down with water a bit.

Yes. Just keep the Saran on it so it stays wet. When you are done with the primer wash out the roller really well (until you stop seeing pigment come off of it). Let it dry until it's just barely moist to the touch, but don't let it fully dry or tiny bits of the remaining primer will dry and change the texture noticeably. You can then wrap it in Saran again until you are ready to use it for painting.

Also, some people just soak them in paint thinner or mineral spirits after washing them to prevent them from drying out. It's up to you, but I hate the smell of an open bath of mineral spirits stinking up the room for days at a time.
 
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Freefallin2000

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Yes. Just keep the Saran on it so it stays wet. When you are done with the primer wash out the roller really well (until you stop seeing pigment come off of it). Let it dry until it's just barely moist to the touch, but don't let it fully dry or tiny bits of the remaining primer will dry and change the texture noticeably. You can then wrap it in Saran again until you are ready to use it for painting.

Also, some people just soak them in paint thinner or mineral spirits after washing them to prevent them from drying out. It's up to you, but I hate the smell of an open bath of mineral spirits stinking up the room for days at a time.


Yeah, not a fan of mineral spirits lingering either. But I guess the main questions is as stated above: I have primed the ceiling and wall; can I use the same roller on the REST of the garage walls?

I will of course use a new roller for each color and clean them after. Can I just use warm water and Zep Cutrus Degreaser 4:1 to clean them off for storage?
 

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Are the REST of the garage walls using the same primer? If so, do as you already are with the saran wrap or baggie or just clean it.

You don't need a new roller for each color if you clean them thoroughly. However, rollers are relatively cheap, even for good ones.
 

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I tend to use a roller with a heavier knap.....it gives a bit more texture and tends to hide the 'minor' imperfections.....

I also prefer to use exterior paint....my ceiling is high gloss (the texture breaks up the reflections) and on the walls I used semi-gloss....
 
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Freefallin2000

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I am using Glidden Semi-Gloss on my walls. So I CAN use the same roller for the rest of the primer then.
 
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