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rsanter

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I use purple power in my parts cleaner and it works good.
For old lathes and machines that will be taken apart and cleaned up I like to scrape the **** off so I can take some of the parts off and then I can hit the larger pieces with the pressure washer and then into the parts washer.
Small parts go into a screen basket and submerged in purple power.

If the purple stuff doesn’t get it done then I go to thinner/acetone
 
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I'm in CA and have restored a lot of machines, including some at least as filthy as your South Bend (a Burr King that was near the exhaust of a grinder comes to mind).

-I use a heated ultrasonic cleaner with Cascade dishwashing powder and Evaporust for everything that will fit in it. Don't ask me why Cascade---I have tried all the usual suspects plus several other brands and had various problems, but Cascade in the green box works great.

-I use Simple Green + SOS (or Scotch Brite) + hot water on everything else EXCEPT MACHINED SURFACES.

-Kerosene will clean old paint without removing it.

-I use a lot of Acetone, too. It is not very bad for you if you get it on your skin, unlike other strong solvents (your body makes it in small quantities). Of course, the leaded paint and grime you dissolve with it will follow it through your skin, so wear thick latex chem gloves (it will eat Nitrile). Acetone works amazingly well---it is an excellent solvent---and is cheap and widely available. Apply it and keep it from evaporating for a minute or so, then watch as the grime magically goes from solid to easy-to-remove. Use it outside to avoid fumes.

But if I were in your shoes with another huge filthy machine, I would be tempted to remove everything with electronics or bearings in it, then have it steam cleaned. Reliable Tool (remember them? huge socal machine tool reseller) used to do this (well, without removing anything) before they shut down---machines from them were always nicely degreased. There are a ton of steam cleaning outfits around here. If you have it on a trailer, then someone with a steam cleaner running can do it in like 4 minutes.

There are also lots of blasting and acid dip places around if you plan to repaint anyways.

So, let's see your lathe
 

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Ahh, there is where you are wrong. Hot tank solution is caustic soda, not just soapy water. It is difficult to find an engine builder in Arizona who still has a traditional hot tank, since the EPA has outlawed them.
Thats what I said in my reply. The EPA has not actually "outlawed" them as far as I know but the cost of disposing of the dirty solution is pretty outrageous. I know of two shops local to me that still have one.
 

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Acetone works great for really crusty stuff.

PSC1000 from Tractor Supply is what I use in my parts washer. Works great, though you'll need to do a final rinse with brake cleaner or similar since the PSC1000 takes forever to evaporate.
 

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Ahh, there is where you are wrong. Hot tank solution is caustic soda, not just soapy water. It is difficult to find an engine builder in Arizona who still has a traditional hot tank, since the EPA has outlawed them.
Yup. A true hot dip tank is a bit of a beast. I was mechanic in a diesel shop that used to have a engine rebuild shop out back, complete with a hot tank. Looked like something out of a horror movie used to disolve bodies. A scary but effective tool.
 

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Another vote for TS and PCS1000. Have had it in my Harbor Freight parts washer for several years. I never knew how good a proper parts cleaner solvent worked!! Especially compared to **** that is water based. Just no comparison at all.

No evaporation, No smell and a very high flash point so minimal fire hazard. Do keep the metal containers it comes in as if you ever need to move the parts washer all the fluid can be drained into the storage containers and it makes it much easier to transport.
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Tractor supply sells solvent in 5 gallon pails that works reasonably well in a parts washer. Autozone sells a engine degreaser in aerosol cans that works well if you let it soak for about 30 min.
 

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you can get it in California for boat stove use.
So maybe at West Marine?

However the denatured fuel alcohol appears to 50%+ methanol.

Is it the same stuff?

I recall denatured alcohol being ~90% ethanol. Maybe this just dates me.
 

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I post this weekly now, but one of my race team's sponsors is a biodegrable/somewhat green parts cleaner. I think it's available in Californa at the moment. I use it in my parts washer at home, and Honda has been buying it for our parts washers in the shop.


^^ Very cool---tell us more! Is it safe on Aluminum? Where do you purchase a small bottle to try? I'm in for one if I can get it.[/url]
 

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^^ Very cool---tell us more! Is it safe on Aluminum? Where do you purchase a small bottle to try? I'm in for one if I can get it.[/url]

I can probably get our sponsor to send you a bottle, or I will send you some. PM me your contact information.

Note: It is not corrosive on aluminum (or anything that I have found yet).
 

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Every engine shop has one. There are two near me. It's just detergent & hot water. We haven't outlawed soap yet. :)
Yeah...I've got a small one in my garage...always 1 inch too small in one dimension for the fuel tanks I need to boil.

Edit...maybe I don't...I guess mine is a 'spray washer'.
 
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toyotadriver

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I have been using the tractor supply solvent in my own parts washer and like it just fine.


I've been using it too and I like it a lot. PSC 1000. Use it to clean guns in a small parts washer and to clean everything else in a large parts washer. Really good cleaner and pretty reasonable to purchase. Paid something like $40 for 5 gallons.

No idea if it's legal to sell/purchase in CA though.
 

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Industrial machinery is often cleaned with a dry ice blasting process. Cleans quickly and thoroughly. It might be cost prohibitive in a residential environment but is probably an option in California.
 

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Industrial machinery is often cleaned with a dry ice blasting process. Cleans quickly and thoroughly. It might be cost prohibitive in a residential environment but is probably an option in California.

That's what I was going to recommend. Cold Jet comes to mind since they are in the building next to my office.

 

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See if there's a Crystal Clean dealer in your area, they will deliver a 25 gallon drum of solvent for well under $200 and retrieve it when you're done with it. I use them for my parts cleaner at home. Great stuff, works just like Safety Kleen for less than 1/2 the price. Their stuff is solvent based, not water based.
 

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You can still buy stoddard solvent, aka white mineral spirits. Less flammable than gasoline and less smelly than diesel or kerosene.
Stoddard's is just a hydrocarbon fraction. It's properties are similar to kerosene or diesel fuel. Just different fractions. But they dissolve the same things.
 

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I've been using it too and I like it a lot. PSC 1000. Use it to clean guns in a small parts washer and to clean everything else in a large parts washer. Really good cleaner and pretty reasonable to purchase. Paid something like $40 for 5 gallons.

No idea if it's legal to sell/purchase in CA though.
It is. I bought mine at the TS in Moorpark, CA.
 

toyotadriver

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It is. I bought mine at the TS in Moorpark, CA.



Pretty sure it's naphtha based judging by the smell and the MSDS.

I may go pick up another couple cans just to have some spare although 5 gallons will last me for a number of years.
 

toyotadriver

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Most likely. Very reminiscent of Zippo fluid. Works good, though, for being CA compliant. Like I mentioned, you'll just need to rinse your parts with brake cleaner when you're done.


I've had good luck just blowing whatever I'm working on with compressed air and it dries things right out. Definitely stays wet longer than mineral spirits but dries out with compressed air just fine. When I get it one my hands it definitely strips oils off my hands.
 

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Can you get denatured alcohol in AZ?
If you're looking for 100% alcohol, you should be able to get methanol race fuel. California is a hotbed of speedway motorcycle racing. Do an internet search. Can get at track, or nearby race fuel seller. Karts use it too.
 

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I've had good luck just blowing whatever I'm working on with compressed air and it dries things right out. Definitely stays wet longer than mineral spirits but dries out with compressed air just fine. When I get it one my hands it definitely strips oils off my hands.
I'll try that. Maybe I'm just impatient!

If you're looking for 100% alcohol, you should be able to get methanol race fuel. California is a hotbed of speedway motorcycle racing. Do an internet search. Can get at track, or nearby race fuel seller. Karts use it too.
I used to use denatured alcohol as an inexpensive general purpose degreaser/cleaner in my shop. Once I used up my supply and CA outlawed it, I now use 99% isopropyl alcohol. CA legal, works as good as denatured, safe for plastics and easy on your skin!
 

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you can get it in California for boat stove use.
Actually, there's a chemical supplier in west Sacramento where I can buy anything from a gallon of hexane to 5lbs of potassium dichromate. The California regulations don't apply because it's for things like chemical manufacturing. You just have to show your driver's license in case the police or the fbi become interested.
 
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Just about anything that dissolves in diesel will also dissolve in 100% biodiesel, and the biodiesel is easier on your hands.
 
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