Pavement or fence first?

[bullnerd]

Had a new garage added onto the house to replace one that burned down.

Planning to replace the fence that burned a bit too between us and neighbor.

Also planning new paved drive up to the garage.

Pavement will go right up to fence for maximum turn in room.

Should I install the fence first, then pave up to it? or verse-visa?

 

[RVDan]

The paving guys will say paving first. The fence guys will say fence first.

 

[Sevenhills1952]

Wouldn't it depend on type of fence and concrete or asphalt?
Me... I would fence first because it can be messy...then driveway last.

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[Radix2]

The paving guys will say paving first. The fence guys will say fence first.

Disagree, both would say paving first imo.

Paving guys have room to work, fence guys know exactly where to place.

 

[The Cobbler]

I would do the fence first. then you can pave right up to it and not worry about hacking the pavement when auguring the holes, or put the posts in, then pave, then complete the fence

 

[Slowgsr]

Fence first. There's a reason paving is done last.

 

[The Cobbler]

edit, I would do the posts, then the paving, then the fence , that way you can get a nice even space between the pavement & fence boards

 

[ford33]

Fence then paving. Although the idea of digging and installing the fence posts does make good sense.

 

[Higgins]

Having seen a neighbors driveway done several weeks ago, I would say driveway 1st.

The side of the asphalt machine is several feet wider that the side of the asphalt being laid down. Would require them to shovel the asphalt material to be shoveled into that area then compacted my the large roller.

Just something to think about!!

 

[readhead]

What would you say if the fence was existing? The paving guys are used to paving up to an edge or wall. That being said I would set the posts, pave then fence. Less chance for damage.

 

[bullnerd]

edit, I would do the posts, then the paving, then the fence , that way you can get a nice even space between the pavement & fence boards

I like the way that sounds.

Having seen a neighbors driveway done several weeks ago, I would say driveway 1st.

The side of the asphalt machine is several feet wider that the side of the asphalt being laid down. Would require them to shovel the asphalt material to be shoveled into that area then compacted my the large roller.

Just something to think about!!

That's what I was worried about.

Problem with doing the pavement first is with my luck it will be a wavy mess right where I want a nice straight fence line. At least with the posts they have a boundary, but room to work.

Thanks guys.

 

[Red 17]

Do a block wall with an 18" wide concrete footer, which will be the edge of your driveway. A little lip on it will keep water flowing in the direction you want, and be a guide when you are parking. Serving suggestion.

 

[Jinks]

Should I install the fence first, then pave up to it? or verse-visa?

Yes.

 

[Dozerhand]

What kind of fence? Stockade, chain link, split rail?

 

[bullnerd]

What kind of fence? Stockade, chain link, split rail?

Wood, similar to a stockade...but more fancier.

 

[ard]

Disagree, both would say paving first imo.

Paving guys have room to work, fence guys know exactly where to place.

Agree.

I'd like full access for asphalt guys, rollers, compaction.

If you want, drill holes first. Let's dirt fall in. Fence guys clean it out after asphalt is down.

You can even go a few inches wide on the asphalt, then move the fence in a bit...will make a neater bottom 'joint'. (And avoid weeds there...)

But ask both.

 

[NUTTSGT]

edit, I would do the posts, then the paving, then the fence , that way you can get a nice even space between the pavement & fence boards

This is probably what I would do.

 

[Farmall450]

I would do the fence first. then you can pave right up to it and not worry about hacking the pavement when auguring the holes, or put the posts in, then pave, then complete the fence

^^^^^^

 

[LS6 Tommy]

Disagree, both would say paving first imo.

Paving guys have room to work, fence guys know exactly where to place.

X2.

Tommy

 

[CTyankee]

Had a new garage added onto the house to replace one that burned down.

Planning to replace the fence that burned a bit too between us and neighbor.

Should I install the fence first, then pave up to it? or verse-visa?

Since the neighbors are probably the ones paying for the fence...I'd let them decide.

 

[ddawg16]

What kind of pavement? If it's concrete, then fence first.

 

[machsnell]

Asphalt guy says either way. But cobbler has it nailed.

1st choice- posts in pave then fence. Best chance for clean edge. If you are doing fence then for sure this way. Fence contractor might want to charge extra for 2 mobs. Run a string for bottom of fence so asphalt guys can pave to it.

If asphalt goes first then put up a rough form. A ripped 2x4 to depth or a 2x4 on its side staked outside like you would use for concrete will ensure a straight edge.

Or...overpave and just sawcut on chalk line. It's hard to pave dead straight. You can straighten with lute but you would have to monitor crew.

If fence first maybe hang off fence a few inches so the roller and plate tamper dont hit it. You will be bound to get some diesel or asphalt in the bottom of the fence boards so maybe tape with duct tape if you dont want.

Fence first does allow you to lock in a visual elevation to grade and pave too also.

Lots of ways to skin this cat and only one is truly the best option.

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[Dozerhand]

Well for a stockade style fence id say fence first, preferably with the posts on the back side. Pave right to the fence no problem. It won't hurt to run a plate compactor against it. Wouldn't even consider doing it the other way.

 

[James-W]

Is there a particular reason why you need a fence? If a fence isn't absolutely necessary I would forget about putting one up and just put the driveway up to the lot line. You will have more room to maneuver around and in bad weather you won't hit the fence.

 

[bullnerd]

Thanks guys.

Fence is for my neighbors yippy dog that barks as soon as we move outside.

Aaaannd she walks the said yippy dog in some crazy azz muumuu outfit that is just annoying in the morning.

Basically the 19' door faces directly at the side of her house and I want to block the neighbor from seeing into the new garage.

Plus, I like to work out naked and she'll be trying to come over and bother me and ****...I don't need that.

 

[James-W]

Thanks guys.

Fence is for my neighbors yippy dog that barks as soon as we move outside.

Aaaannd she walks the said yippy dog in some crazy azz muumuu outfit that is just annoying in the morning.

Basically the 19' door faces directly at the side of her house and I want to block the neighbor from seeing into the new garage.

Plus, I like to work out naked and she'll be trying to come over and bother me and ****...I don't need that.

That is a lot more than I wanted to know.

 

[bad_idea]

Not a professional in either trade, but an above average skilled DIY type (in my opinion) here.

I would want the driveway done first and then the fence built along the driveway. Concrete man should be able to pour a nice straight line. Then the posts can be dug right against the driveway. Installation of a fence is much less likely to damage a driveway than the heavy equipment needed to install a driveway. Easier you make the concrete guy's job, better the outcome will be.

Another thought that occurs to me is the replacement of the fence posts at a later date. If the driveway is on top of the concrete for the fence posts, you will catch hell pulling them up to replace. If the posts are stepped off the driveway 4" or so you can yank the posts out later without tearing up the driveway. Put a strip of bricks between the driveway and the fence to make a decorative and maintenance free edge.

 

[sberry]

I am going to ask my paver bud but,,, sure seems like more **** in the way doesn't make things easier.

 

[bullnerd]

I am going to ask my paver bud but,,, sure seems like more **** in the way doesn't make things easier.

Agree.

Also, it will be an asphalt driveway.

My biggest concern with doing the fence first is probably the pitch of the pavement. I want the paving guy to pitch it the way he wants.

If I install the fence first, then I might get the pitch wrong.

 

[machsnell]

Also if fence is in first and pitched towards the fence (grade/asphalt), the rollerman will have heavy side of roller (roller heavier on the downhill side) close to the fence and he will be moving slow so he doesnt hit the fence. Whether vibratory is on close to fence or not there will be a roller mark just off the edge of the fence.

With a plate tamper or hand tamper it will be difficult to get the same density in that asphalt that hasnt been rolled that you can be left with a ridge or water hold area.


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