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Tom2

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Surprised more people don't use it. Something like that should be more well known and popular.
If you sell anything big, the fees from PPl can be pretty nuts. Especially if you sell it on eBay and have to pay all those fees with it.
 

finallap

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Selling on here, Paypal "gift" is a good method of payment.

Selling on Ebay, yeah you just have to **** it up and pay both seller fees as well as PP fees. :monkey_po

Selling on CL, straight cash in person but "risky" buyer.
 

woody 73

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I do not understand some things in life and paypal is one of them. If I send someone cash (not my favorite way to go)then the person gets the full amount minus any fees?

If a person posts tools for sale and only wants paypal then some other GJ members like myself get the back seat which seems a bit unfair.(I just avoid reading those for sale posts;which seems like bad business).

What is wrong with a Bank check or a personnel check,it only takes a few days to get to ones house;do people need the cash that fast?

You can ask anyone on the GJ I pay as fast as the mail can get it to your house,but darn if I have to start doing paypal I have enough problems just keeping my other statements in order.

I apologize for the rant as I said some things in life I do not understand,and if I was a few years younger I would have looked into paypal.
 

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What is wrong with a Bank check or a personnel check,it only takes a few days to get to ones house;do people need the cash that fast?

You can ask anyone on the GJ I pay as fast as the mail can get it to your house,but darn if I have to start doing paypal I have enough problems just keeping my other statements in order.

I apologize for the rant as I said some things in life I do not understand,and if I was a few years younger I would have looked into paypal.

They Bounce.
 

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I do not understand some things in life and paypal is one of them. If I send someone cash (not my favorite way to go)then the person gets the full amount minus any fees?

If a person posts tools for sale and only wants paypal then some other GJ members like myself get the back seat which seems a bit unfair.(I just avoid reading those for sale posts;which seems like bad business).

What is wrong with a Bank check or a personnel check,it only takes a few days to get to ones house;do people need the cash that fast?

You can ask anyone on the GJ I pay as fast as the mail can get it to your house,but darn if I have to start doing paypal I have enough problems just keeping my other statements in order.

I apologize for the rant as I said some things in life I do not understand,and if I was a few years younger I would have looked into paypal.

They Bounce.

I sold on eBay for years taking checks, money orders or cash. I refused to sign up for Paypal because of the extra fees. Never once did I have a problem with a check or money order bouncing. When eBay went to the 'no paper' exchange, -Paypal only I quit selling.
I too skip over the ad on here that state Paypal only'.
Just my $0.02
mike
 

alex71

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I will generally take money orders or checks either on slow-moving items, or on items that I have many of.

The reasons are as follows, and this is from experience:

1. When you accept a MO from someone you have never dealt with, and it doesn't show up. days go by. it doesn't show up. it doesn't show up. In the mean time, you have the item marked as sold, or pending, or whatever, and have passed up real sales.

This has happened to me a bunch of times, both here and on other forums.

2. Going to the bank is a drag.


I do not understand some things in life and paypal is one of them. If I send someone cash (not my favorite way to go)then the person gets the full amount minus any fees?

If a person posts tools for sale and only wants paypal then some other GJ members like myself get the back seat which seems a bit unfair.(I just avoid reading those for sale posts;which seems like bad business).

What is wrong with a Bank check or a personnel check,it only takes a few days to get to ones house;do people need the cash that fast?

You can ask anyone on the GJ I pay as fast as the mail can get it to your house,but darn if I have to start doing paypal I have enough problems just keeping my other statements in order.

I apologize for the rant as I said some things in life I do not understand,and if I was a few years younger I would have looked into paypal.
 

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Checks can take weeks to clear.

Also time is money, and checks and money orders take time to deal with. Not only do you have to run into town for cashing, but with checks you have to monitor them to make sure they're cleared, remember what the heck they were for..., and then with both methods you have to fill in your shipping labels by hand. Paypal basically does everything for you.

It doesn't sound like that much to someone thats buying or selling one item, but it can be a royal PITA if you're selling lots of stuff. I greatly prefer paypal, would take money orders if I must, but I refuse a check. It isn't my hangup with paypal, so why do I need to be the one to keep track of your check / risk a bounced check / make a trip to the bank? Money orders are safer and require no risk or waiting to clear.

And yes, having your money in your paypal account faster than waiting for mail / clearing can be very helpful. Not only do you not have to mark it sold even though you haven't been paid, but you also keep your cash flowing. For me personally, thats the hardest part of buying and selling: having money in hand when the good buy comes along.

I don't have any idea why people fear paypal so much. If you're afraid of them (or someone else) stealing your money, set up a seperate bank account strictly for paypal, and use your normal credit card. Having paypal protections and credit card protections certainly outweigh the "risks" of paypal having your info.
 

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It doesn't concern me much here or other 'community' sites, but with eBay, Craigslist, etc, the risk of fraud is just too great. I did some volunteer work with some anti-scam organizations and you would not believe the amount of bad checks and money orders out there. (I have about $5,000,000 worth of them) Many of these are impossible to tell from the real thing and the consequences can be disastrous.

If you deposit a check that turns out to be fraudulent, not only will your bank take back the funds (along with a shitload of fees) but they will most often terminate your account and ding your credit rating.

And don't be lulled into a false sense of security just because a check has "cleared". There's no such thing when fraud is involved and the bank can recover the funds as long as 6 years later in most jurisdictions.

Paypal fees ****, but I think it's worth the security.

I'll take cash, but lots of people are reluctant to put that in the mail.

See these? All fakes.
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checks.jpg
 
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It doesn't concern me much here or other 'community' sites, but with eBay, Craigslist, etc, the risk of fraud is just too great. I did some volunteer work with some anti-scam organizations and you would not believe the amount of bad checks and money orders out there. (I have about $5,000,000 worth of them) Many of these are impossible to tell from the real thing and the consequences can be disastrous.

If you deposit a check that turns out to be fraudulent, not only will your bank take back the funds (along with a shitload of fees) but they will most often terminate your account and ding your credit rating.

And don't be lulled into a false sense of security just because a check has "cleared". There's no such thing when fraud is involved and the bank can recover the funds as long as 6 years later in most jurisdictions.

Paypal fees ****, but I think it's worth the security.

I'll take cash, but lots of people are reluctant to put that in the mail.

See these? All fakes.
4mwallpaper1.jpg

checks.jpg

Those pictures should be a "wake up call" for people who take Checks and Money Orders.
I'll take the advantage with a PP account any day.It helps on this forum for sure.
 

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Trouble is paypal wont let you buy anything firearms related (using paypal). Run a search on it. :mad:

That being said paypal does work ok. But there does need to be some alternatives to it. Problem is ebay would throw out a lawsuit in less time than it took to type this.

I hate the fact that ebay controls the market for auction sites and paypal type services. :mad:
 
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dabirdguy

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I don't have a fear of Paypal, I just hate being strong armed into ANYTHING.

Plus I think their fees are totally unacceptable.
 

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I do not understand some things in life and paypal is one of them. If I send someone cash (not my favorite way to go)then the person gets the full amount minus any fees?

If a person posts tools for sale and only wants paypal then some other GJ members like myself get the back seat which seems a bit unfair.(I just avoid reading those for sale posts;which seems like bad business).

What is wrong with a Bank check or a personnel check,it only takes a few days to get to ones house;do people need the cash that fast?

You can ask anyone on the GJ I pay as fast as the mail can get it to your house,but darn if I have to start doing paypal I have enough problems just keeping my other statements in order.

I apologize for the rant as I said some things in life I do not understand,and if I was a few years younger I would have looked into paypal.



no problem here either taking a personal check or money order....



However you will wait for my bank to clear it before I ship. that may be up to 7 days. most people do not want to wait the 7 days

jeff
 

fourfeathers

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A money order costs $, an envelope costs $, and a stamp costs $. I think Pay-pal should charge the buyer the equivalent plus a quarter. That seems fair.

I used to accept checks and MO on ebay, but it was a pain.
 

Ditchdigger

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Selling on here, Paypal "gift" is a good method of payment.


By checking the "gift" option the buyer forfeits any and all protection. If the seller is unscrupulous or misrepresents the item the buyer has no recourse whatsoever.

Just pad in the extra 3% in the initial price. 3 bucks on a hundred dollar item? that is not worth worrying about.
 

spongerich

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What is wrong with a U.S postal money order? You are going to the PO anyway, you get paid at the same time it ships.

People actually go to the post office?

The USPS picks up at no cost. They'll even deliver free boxes and other shipping supplies. I appreciate people's aversion to Paypal, but it's by far the safest and most convenient option out there. The fees annoy me sometimes, but at the end of the day, they're almost always worth it.
 

finallap

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The no fees for gift only works if they have money in the Paypal account. If they are funding it with a credit card or bank account, then the receiver pays.

OP, thanks for posting this!

I've sent and received "gift" transaction with bank account (instant transfer) and never charge with any fees.

And I mention the "gift" method of payment on GJ, assuming most play by the honesty card. :)
 

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I use Square payment for the shop to take credit cards, they charge a little less than Paypal and it's the easiest way I know of to take a credit card in person without a monthly fee. Paypal is easy enough online. That site the OP linked to looks like a scam, it's based in the fraud capital of America and their site seems cobbled together. I wouldn't use it.
 

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http://www.paypalsucks.com/

http://paypalsucks.org/

http://knaddison.com/opinions/why-i-hate-paypal-why-paypal-*****

http://www.paypalsucks.net/

http://www.paypalwarning.com/

http://www.google.com/search?q=Payp...apieHbBw&ved=0CIkBENUCKAI&fp=4824b41ba0d4cfd8

Screw Paypal. I will continue to send USPS MOs for anything that I can't pay with my normal debit card or cash. I refuse to have someone hold me hostage because they are the only game in town. Plus I don't support Ebay anymore because I can't sell anything without taking Paypal. Screw them.
 

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Screw Paypal. I will continue to send USPS MOs for anything that I can't pay with my normal debit card or cash. I refuse to have someone hold me hostage because they are the only game in town. Plus I don't support Ebay anymore because I can't sell anything without taking Paypal. Screw them.

x2

I sold many collectibles on eBay back in the late 90's and early 00's. I only accepted USPS MO's and cash. I remember when I sold my shot glass collection (over 500) the buyer paid in cash. We were both nervous about sending that much cash through the mail ($1250). The cash arrived and I immediately called the buyer to let him know the cash was in hand. Other buyers also paid in cash with no issues.

I stopped selling on eBay when they went PP only.
 

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There is a lot of bitterness there. Unfortunately, as you and others have mentioned, if you want to sell on ebay, you have no choice but to use paypal. I'm not talking about one or two things a month, but a much higher volume.

The fact is the vast majority of the time it works just fine. As high as the fees are, it is still worth it, or people wouldn't use it. That's why I grin and bear it. YMMV.
 
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wornoutoldman

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I use Square payment for the shop to take credit cards, they charge a little less than Paypal and it's the easiest way I know of to take a credit card in person without a monthly fee. Paypal is easy enough online. That site the OP linked to looks like a scam, it's based in the fraud capital of America and their site seems cobbled together. I wouldn't use it.

Please do your own research. This is NOT a scam.

http://www.revolutionmoneyexchange.com/about-us.aspx

Like I said earlier I've used them and am quite happy with them. If you want to pay Paypal fees that your choice.
 

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I can't seem to figure out how to register for this (Revolution Money Exchange) service. I can't find a sigh up button and it won't let me log in because I don't have a user name or password.
 

mtwaterguy

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Looks fishy to me also. Seems like they want you to maintain a min balance for them to make their money. In addition you can only send money to other members and they must be in the US.
 

roktoy

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Don't think anyone has mentioned it but I would bet Paypal sellers get higher prices on a sale much like CC vendors do. People will often spend PP money freer than they would cash.
 
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