Permits for CA? (Bay Area) Charging

[superm1]

Is this actually necessary? I am getting a Tesla Wall connector and have enough surplus on my breaker.

Do they actually need diagrams and such or is it DIY friendly?

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Is this actually necessary? I am getting a Tesla Wall connector and have enough surplus on my breaker.

Do they actually need diagrams and such or is it DIY friendly?

What city do u live in?

Surplus on your breaker? What does that mean?

U will need a dedicated branch circuit.

 

[Shiftless]

What city do u live in?

Surpluson your breaker? What does that mean?

U will need a dedicated branch circuit.

OP probably meant that he has the ability to install another breaker in his panel to give him the 50 amp 220 connection with a NEMA 14-50 for the at home charger. This draw something like 10 kW of power. Doesn't sound like a job for inexperienced amateurs. I wouldn't do it.

Of course permits will be required. Tesla has a list of recommended electricians who are familiar with the installation procedure, but I suppose a homeowner could do it himself. But I bet in any city, to be "legal", a permit and inspection will be required.

 

[ddawg16]

Is this actually necessary? I am getting a Tesla Wall connector and have enough surplus on my breaker.

Do they actually need diagrams and such or is it DIY friendly?

Yes, you need permits. While it might sound like a trivial task, you would be amazed at how quickly something like that can be done wrong and burn down your house.

The cost of the permit is minimal compared to the cost of installing the outlet.

Yes, you may have the capacity in your load center. But then you need to get the right size wire to the location you want...and the right connector installed.

Or, you could choose to not get a permit....and take the chance the wrong size wire is installed.....and take the chance of a fire.

All those permit rules? Came about because someone got hurt or property was damaged.

 

[Norcal]

OP probably meant that he has the ability to install another breaker in his panel to give him the 50 amp 220 connection with a NEMA 14-50 for the at home charger. This draw something like 10 kW of power. Doesn't sound like a job for inexperienced amateurs. I wouldn't do it.

Of course permits will be required. Tesla has a list of recommended electricians who are familiar with the installation procedure, but I suppose a homeowner could do it himself. But I bet in any city, to be "legal", a permit and inspection will be required.

PG&E nor any other California PoCo offers/supplies "220".

Permits and inspections are required for everything, the fee schedule should be on the website of whatever city or county the OP lives in.

 

[tfi racing]

If you can afford a Tesla,you certainly have more than enough money to pay an electrician to do the job right.

 

[Shiftless]

Norcal:
I probably should have referred to that voltage as "220" in quotes.
I know the measured voltage is closer to 240 but since so many people refer to it as 220 that is what I typed in.
Last time I metered what PGE was supplying me, an unloaded circuit was giving me 234 volts. Of course with a load, that number will drop.

 

[nadogail]

IMHO, 208, 220, and 240 are nominally interchangeable for residential uses.

The only timeI have had to adjust for the differences in residential work has been when restringing a clothes dryer heater.

Industrial work with larger motors has been a different matter.

I realize that my experience has been limited, I obviously have not been everywhere and seen everything.

 

[Falcon67]

Is this actually necessary? I am getting a Tesla Wall connector and have enough surplus on my breaker.

Do they actually need diagrams and such or is it DIY friendly?

Some cities - like the "larger" one here - allow home owners to pull their own permit for electrical work, but require that the homeowner pass a test of some sort first.

If you read the code in some places - Fort Worth as I remember is one - you can't technically replace a wall outlet without a permit. As you'd expect, pretty much anyone familiar with that operation doesn't call City Hall before fixing the thing.

"DIY Friendly" is relative - I think most places try to be nice, but inspectors have usually seen a lot of amateur work and can easily get into a mode like people should have a license even to buy electrical tape.

 

[Lassen Forge]

You have something else to consider. If you don't do the install per Tesla's instructions (or "guidance") you could void your warranty. That could be a mistake almost as expensive as burning your house down.

By the way... Currently my voltage input is 232.7. Oops, make that 235.4... No, it's 236.1. Never mind, it's back to 233.4... So let me ask the burning question - If I call it 220, how many people here *don't* know what I mean?

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Only 8 posts and no reply from the OP makes me suspect this was a troll posting!

You have something else to consider. If you don't do the install per Tesla's instructions (or "guidance") you could void your warranty. That could be a mistake almost as expensive as burning your house down.

By the way... Currently my voltage input is 232.7. Oops, make that 235.4... No, it's 236.1. Never mind, it's back to 233.4... So let me ask the burning question - If I call it 220, how many people here *don't* know what I mean?

The problem arises when people post on the forums and dont provide their location so are we to assume theyre in the US or a foreign country that actually still uses 220v system??? People in foreign countries do sometimes start threads here...