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monkers

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I want to have a 220v outlet in 2 locations to use a saw in 2 spots,can I pigtail off the first outlet to a second one or do i need to run another line from the panel box? They will not both be used at the same time
 
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I did a pair of 30A-240v receptacles on each wall of my shop, with each pair run from a single breaker, using 10/2 Romex. I did it for the same reason as you, I might move stuff, and don't know where it will finally end up. The second receptacle is wired from the box behind the first, where the three wires for each leg are wire-nutted together and the grounds are crimped together. The inspector asked about it, looked it over, and passed it. He indicated that for convenience receptacles it could be done, but for hard-wired equipment it couldn't.
I am sure we'll hear from a bunch of electricians here that say otherwise.
 

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I left a spot in my box for one more 240V circuit. The thought is that if I can upgrade to a 240V welder, I would put a xxA (depends on the welder) run on my divider wall, with one outlet in the tool/work area and one in the car area. It's be a unique plug in the shop and I can only use the welder one place at a time.
 
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I have a separate, designated welder outlet on its own circuit. This is for a horizontal handsaw that will be in one spot 95% of the time, but if I need to cut a 20' length I can move the saw to the other area. Thanks guys
 

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I want to have a 220v outlet in 2 locations to use a saw in 2 spots,can I pigtail off the first outlet to a second one or do i need to run another line from the panel box? They will not both be used at the same time

If the breaker is sized for the wire, then it should not be a problem. Virtually all circuits have more amperage in outlets than the circuit can provide. So if you are wiring with 10 AWG, for example, then a 30 Amp breaker.
 

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I didn't look through the code book on this one, but I'll say most of the time I run dedicated circuits for welders, 240 volt equipment, etc when I'm doing commercial shops/garages/warehouses/etc. But for a home shop, I wouldn't have a problem daisy chaining a few of them together for a guy working alone wanting a little more portability. Just watch your box fill.
 

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If this is residential use property and your local jurisdiction follows the International Residential Building Code, multiple receptacles on circuits larger than 20A are not allowed.
 

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If this is residential use property and your local jurisdiction follows the International Residential Building Code, multiple receptacles on circuits larger than 20A are not allowed.

Strange as my house garage outlets and lights are on the same 15 amp circuit as my dinning room and breakfast area. Before the shop if the compressor kicked on, I couldn't do anything else until it kicked off.
So 120v you can put 20 outlets that all draw 20 amps no problem? Yet 2 outlets on a 30 amp are not allowed?
 
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Strange as my house garage outlets and lights are on the same 15 amp circuit as my dinning room and breakfast area. Before the shop if the compressor kicked on, I couldn't do anything else until it kicked off.
So 120v you can put 20 outlets that all draw 20 amps no problem? Yet 2 outlets on a 30 amp are not allowed?

All I can say is read IRC E3702.5
 

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Strange as my house garage outlets and lights are on the same 15 amp circuit as my dinning room and breakfast area. Before the shop if the compressor kicked on, I couldn't do anything else until it kicked off.
So 120v you can put 20 outlets that all draw 20 amps no problem? Yet 2 outlets on a 30 amp are not allowed?

you must have old house.

Current code requires dining room circuits to be on the SABCs...
 

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I had 4 240v outlets run to my garage when everything was being built. Electrical group ran 4 unique circuits from the main panel. I asked about a subpanel in the garage and they wanted to run directly from the 2 200a main panels. This was a 2015 build.
 

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If this is residential use property and your local jurisdiction follows the International Residential Building Code, multiple receptacles on circuits larger than 20A are not allowed.

OP may not be on the latest code cycle...
 

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OP may not be on the latest code cycle...

The IRC E3702.5 requirement has been in place for a long long time so it's not just something that's gone into place recently. If the OP's jurisdiction has adopted the IRC then that code section applies unless the local version was amended.
 

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The IRC E3702.5 requirement has been in place for a long long time so it's not just something that's gone into place recently. If the OP's jurisdiction has adopted the IRC then that code section applies unless the local version was amended.

This thread is from 2011 :lol_hitti
 

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If this is residential use property and your local jurisdiction follows the International Residential Building Code, multiple receptacles on circuits larger than 20A are not allowed.

Did you bring this back from the grave or did someone comment and then delete their comment before you?
 
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Did you bring this back from the grave or did some comment and then delete their comment before you?

That's odd, I didn't think I did. I'm sure it was at the top of the page as if it was a new post when I responded, at least I thought it was. Oh well, I didn't even think to look at the date when I posted. As you say, may be someone posted a new comment and deleted it as I was hunting and pecking. :dunno:
 
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