Pinless For The Summer

[bcradio]

I decided to go pinless for the summer this year. I couldn't resist that price plus $15 in points I had.

It is missing 19mm, but includes 3/4 (basically the same). Also missing the 1/2 but I don't really care about the SAE anyway... those are just bonus to me. Also, the universal IS pinless even though it isn't in the photo.


http://www.sears.com/craftsman-professional-use-17-piece-3-8-inch-drive/p-00948981000P?sid=IDx01192011x000001&kpid=00948981000&pla=&kispla=00948981000P&mktRedirect=y

 

[kunkernator]

Thats a pretty good deal. Any idea of COO?

 

[bcradio]

Thats a pretty good deal. Any idea of COO?

All current pinless are identical and made by the same company. US made (Craftsman/Armstrong/Matco/ and now Gearwrench)

 

[ich_liebe_meine_arbeit]

Also, this was posted in the comments/review section on the sears page:

"PROFESSIONAL QUALITY

THESE ARE PROFESSIONAL QUALITY. MADE IN USA.
I would recommend this product to a friend.

by 1985mustang Burlington, NJ | Fri, Mar 20, 2015"

 

[popparoach]

my Matco guy said those will rob you of torque due to the amount of slop in them and tend to break a lot.he talked me out of buying them from him.?

 

[LB-1911]

my Matco guy said those will rob you of torque due to the amount of slop in them and tend to break a lot.he talked me out of buying them from him.?

YMMV

I'm unsure of your type of use or what you'll work on but, this is a good starter set.

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-prof...0948981000P?prdNo=12&blockNo=12&blockType=G12

The set is missing the 1/2 and the universal joint is pinned but the set is still a good value.

I've used the pinless type from Matco/Armstrong/craftsman for over 10 years in a professional shop environment on the end of TIMAX impacts. Although I have worn a couple out, I haven't ever broken one.

As noted previously the universal is now pinless as well.

It is missing 19mm, but includes 3/4 (basically the same). Also missing the 1/2 but I don't really care about the SAE anyway... those are just bonus to me. Also, the universal IS pinless even though it isn't in the photo.


http://www.sears.com/craftsman-professional-use-17-piece-3-8-inch-drive/p-00948981000P?sid=IDx01192011x000001&kpid=00948981000&pla=&kispla=00948981000P&mktRedirect=y

 

[djb2]

my Matco guy said those will rob you of torque due to the amount of slop in them and tend to break a lot.he talked me out of buying them from him.?

That sounds like sour grapes.

Every universal joint will reduce the torque with a non-zero angle over some of its range. Likely over all of its range. (Unexpectedly, a non-CV joint might actually increase it over certain arc segments.)

A loose but precision joint is more likely to have low friction. A tight joint that wears is more likely to create a notch that binds, robbing power and making the torque really inconsistent.

The 'more likely to break' part could be true, but I would not take the word of a competitor without a heavy dose of salt.

 

[06 DIESEL]

I have a set of these and have never had an issue with them breaking, slipping, etc. Bought them a while ago in a set of every one they make with an impact for about $400 iirc.

 

[popparoach]

that's the weird part,they were matco sockets and he's a Matco dealer.I have no other experience with them.

 

[Nikon_RH50]

that's the weird part,they were matco sockets and he's a Matco dealer.I have no other experience with them.

Sales tactics...he is trying to gain your trust. Trust = easy sell