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mrholeshot

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Saw my package for my new 84T ratchets out for delivery yesterday so I was pumped up. UPS man pulls up around 3:30 and brings me several boxes. I noticed one was mangled pretty bad so I told the driver to hang on just a second. I open the box and it was the one from Sears. Instead of my 84T ratchets it had 1 each of the 60T Craftsman Pros. I taped it back up and refused delivery on that package. I called the Customer service number. Pure hell for 2 hours without ever talking to a human. I'll be back at it again today. Just can't beleive they screwed up the order that bad and have no human to resolve the issue. They ****
 
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mrholeshot

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Yeah, I wonder how can you screw up a part number? I could understand if the part numbers had been one off and they reached in the wrong bin and sent me one part wrong but to hit 3 ratchets on the same order is just absolutly unreal.
 

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A couple years ago I bought a set of CM Pro deep offset long pattern box wrenches.

However when my package arrived it was a violin.

I called Sears up and they agreed to send me the correct wrenches and told me to keep the violin. I ended up selling the violin on CL.

Yes, Sears has a terrible order fulfillment system. How long have they been doing mail order? 100 years??
 

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Since those ratchets are coming from the "Act of Kindness" I am dismayed to hear of the troubles you are having!
 
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Since those ratchets are coming from the "Act of Kindness" I am dismayed to hear of the troubles you are having!

It will all work out, I just feel like they thought that I would not notice the differance. Had they sent me a riding mower that was like one number off then I would be so ticked off but to send me three wrong items with three similar items wasn't an error in my eyes. It was downright deception
 

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A couple years ago I bought a set of CM Pro deep offset long pattern box wrenches.

However when my package arrived it was a violin.

I called Sears up and they agreed to send me the correct wrenches and told me to keep the violin.

A violin, really? That must be the most absurd thing I've heard all week...

I guess they really do have monkeys in the stockrooms. :lol_hitti
 

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http://www.contractsales.sears.com/contactus/scs_contact_dm_locations.html

I went through some fun and excitement :rollseyes: when I bought a washer and dryer on black friday. Kenmore front loader PAIR for $599. long story short, i got them @ the end of may. When they got there, the Washer didn't work... Next fun was trying to get someone to come fix it, they hired the most ignorant non english speaking customer service reps for setting up service appointments. got both my cell phone number and my wifes cell phone number wrong in the computer, scheduled it, then when the number didn't go anywhere canceled it, so I took a day off work for nearly nothing. Called them and said WTF? Oh sorry, we got your number wrong it seems, we have another service appt in 2 weeks. 2 weeks?!?! Called that district manager number, talked to who I thought was a nobody, but in 15 minutes there was the repair guy @ my door with a smile asking who's skirt I blew up laughing. 10 minutes it was fixed and he told me the whole story behind the idiots that schedule his apts. So the link I posted WILL fix things.
 

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Capital One is like that too. Its like 30 mins of automated garbage before you get a human. I am usually so frustrated that by the time I get to talk to someone I am ready to rip their head off.
 

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Some of you all believe the root cause of sears' downfall is from moving production to china... and while that surely did not help ( I don't buy 'china' craftsman stuff ever) their whole marketing and service is absolutely horrible... the craftsman website *****, and sears.com is quite bad too. In fact, it is one of the WORST large online stores I have ever seen. I consider myself pretty computer savvy and I get so frustrated when looking for an item, I simply close the web-page and decide to either just look in the store or not buy anything at all. Not everyone has a catalog with part numbers handy. Duh.

In the store they are annoying as well. You can't even browse in peace without someone asking you if you need help every 5 minutes. NO. I don't need help. If I did I would ask. When I am shopping around in a retail store I don't like to be bothered, just make sure you have employees around so I can easily find them when you need them. It's the same thing when I go out to eat at a restaurant. A good server will check in once in a while and just be vigilant to see if the customer 'needs' anything. It's not good to bother someone, interrupting conversation every few minutes asking them if they are ready to leave or it they want anything else when they are CLEARLY doing fine and still eating. It's annoying. Yes I want service but I also want to relax - not everyone is in a hurry to get the f*** out. There is a fine line and they need to learn it at sears.

I remember last week when I was in there another shopper got asked like 5 times in what seemed like under 30 minutes. He finally just said 'STOP asking me if I need help - every few minutes someone keeps asking me and I just want to browse in peace'. It's like they are so desperate for your sales they harass you right out of the store. It makes me feel like I am 14 or 15 again and the employees are just bothering me because they think I am trying to steal something - which of course I was not.

I am reminded of a merchant in a crowded Chinese market who is pressuring you and bothering you, ignorant to your body language which clearly indicates displeasure as they attempt to coax you in to purchasing all their 'goods' - and I use that word loosely. If you want to ask me ONCE when I first enter the store if I need any help or if I just want to browse - fine. However, enough is enough.

The funny thing is, when you actually WANT service... you know, like your order to actually be shipped in a timely fashion, undamaged, and to be... you know, what you actually ordered... there is a decent chance it won't be. This is surely not the first time I have heard crazy stories like that and is one reason I don't order from sears. The entire top level management at sears should be fired and replaced with people who actually know something about marketing and how to run a successful business. They could learn a LOT from amazon.com's shipping service, and why not set up their online store like newegg.com for example. Newegg sells a **** load of technical products and I have never had trouble finding what I needed or getting my order on-time and in undamaged condition. I have ordered over 100 items from those sites if I had to take a guess and I have never had a problem. Quite the contrary in fact my orders usually arrive ahead of schedule. Don't even let me get started or the POOR quality of the navigation on the craftsman website which I know they paid some reject tons of money for... it *****. It's like they say up north...

"maaeeeh, it's f***in' gae-baege"
 

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I've had a ton of troubles with Sears trying to get some toolboxes that were not damaged and have have dealt with their CS quite a bit in the last few months.

877-235-9959 is the number I've used for sears CS on my last issue and have immediately gotten people clearly in the US on the phone in a few seconds. Not sure if that's an anomoly or not.

I also have 800-283-6940, 800-349-4358, and 800-366-3028 written down on various receipts LOL!!!

Sears appears to be ineptly managed, as said their website sux -search for something specific craftsman 17 mm professional wrench and you get 500 matches including drills (use google advanced instead), etc. I have not been overly bothered by salespeople in the store as they are usually kids and all standing in one place and talking to each other LOL. Anyway, I can't see how sears will survive much longer at this rate. They will move all the cman stuff to china which will stop most of the "old timers" that grew up with sears from setting foot in the store.
 

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sorry to hear about that, i got my second 84T 3/8" [for home] in the mail just fine and expect the 1/4" on monday. Also everything i've gotten recently has been packaged in about 6" of packing peanuts. Entirely unnecessary for tools but its the exact opposite to other peoples experiences of getting things bouncing around in a box. Sounds like whoever works at your local warehouse needs a kick in the ***.
 
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I had to read that 2x about the violin... lol i did not even know sears sold those... thanks everyone for the contact #'s I'm sure I will be using them...
 

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Sadly, its a store I want to like shopping at. Even despite some of the Craftsman line going overseas, and the annoying sales staff, I do like their tools for what they are. A reasonably priced, mostly domestic manufactured line of tools with a great warranty for the weekend guy.
But it seems they are cutting their own throat. By selling cheap chinese merchandise I can buy down at Menards or Wal-Mart, I don't feel the store has any advantage. Those customers aren't concerned with durability of the products, its all about price point. For example Sears has their 20v Pro Li-Ion drill on sale for 99$, but I've never seen it in stores. Joe Blow who is in the market for a new cordless drill is gonna go down to Wally World and pick up the 29.97$ Black N Decker model and never know the difference because that Craftsman drill isnt even in the store. And even if the customer did know it was on sale and asked the sales person about it, I seriously doubt they would be any help.
I know I should just order online, but I still like purchasing from a brick and mortar place. I can view/handle the actual product before buying and I dont have to wait or wonder when the UPS will arrive. Atleast then I dont have to deal with their retarded website.
 

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I hear you guys on the brick and mortar experience. I was at Sears twice this week. Nowadays I usually order online for in-store pickup. That's what I did for this week's first trip (a pair of 26" 6-drawer GripLatch top chests). I never have problems with that tactic. Second trip was for some more Hansen socket trays and drawer liners. I decided to just go in the store and pick up those items. Three separate people pestered me about help, and I assume that Sears is paying them based on how many people they ring up. I don't need help browsing. But then when I went to check out, I had to wait several minutes for someone to show up behind the register. I know it's holiday shopping season in their minds so they've got the floor overstaffed, but not having someone behind the register is not very customer-friendly. This happens every time I go to Sears.

Also, the web site will show things in stock for store pickup that aren't on the shelves in the store. I wanted a pair of 3/8" Hansen metric trays. Web site says they have 6 in stock. None are on the shelves in the store; only 1/4" SAE and 1/2" metric. Makes me wonder if the brick and mortar stores are headed toward just being pick-up centers.
 

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Yes the people on the floor work on commission. I can't remember how it's figured but it's x amount from whatever is sold.
 

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The problem with Sears and Craftsman web site is that it's not Apple OSX (Safari browser) friendly. You'll find the same problem with the Pep Boys site. I could only have them work for me on a Windows based (Internet Explorer browser) computer. The Craftsman site has improved, but the Pep Boys site is worthless.
 

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Sorry to hear Sears didn't satisfy you. Yesterday I had to go to two Sears stores to get a defective battery replaced. Very frustrating in-store experience, they wanted a receipt on power tools and treated me like a liar and thief.
 

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Everything people are bringing up, jibes with my experience working @ Sears; its sad but true! I don't know if they will ever fix anything! As a employee you can try your hardest to do your best but many times the Sears distribution infrastructure and policies destroy all the good that you are trying to do! Very frustrating on the customers end of thing BUT ALSO very frustrating as a Sears employee, trying your best to help the customer as well! :(
 

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Glad i aint the only one pissed at sears.i go there in search of sets of stubby wrenches,not a problem a few years ago.now the whole wrench isle is reduced by half.the other half is all gearwrench stuff,gear stubby, gear flexhead,gear 1/4 twist,some craftsmen and some gearwrench brand,i like gears but sometimes i need a non gear stubby thats not too thick to get between a nut and a manifold.the thing that pisses me off is they sell stubbys by the wrench and not by the set.sets are catalogue or online only.i go online and the 20 piece met/sae set thats 99 bucks is on backorder,so are they from china now too,what else can they do to piss me off.i dont like craftsmen that well anyhow,even less now but i do like the stubbs for the price,my home set are great for the money.stupid idiots on ebay pay more than msrp for used sets,guess i'll look for some chiawon brands
 
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I've been back and forth with them all day.As soon as mu package arrives back they said they would send out my ratchets. I didn't accept the first package but they still have to have the old one. Been one hectic day
 

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It's not really that I hate sears, its just I feel the company has made/is making so many poor decisions. It's no wonder why Sears has lost much of its reputation as one of the top go-to places to get quality American-made tools at a price that the average homeowner/hobbyist can afford, a nice alternative to the far more costly truck brands. Sears is alienating its most loyal customers. There are already 'cheap' tool sources such as HF and often even Kobalt/Husky brands. I strongly suggest Sears updates its marketing, online experience and customer service.

Its also important that they offer a top-of the line USA made line if they want to stand out from the rest and keep many of their long-time customers. I don't think offering 'cheaper' line made in china/taiwan is a bad idea so that they can remain competitive, but to change even their so called top of the line products to china manufacturing is a mistake. What incentive do I have to go to a future sears that has all its products made in china when I can buy the same thing at lowes/hd for less money and pick up my lumber, screws, drywall etc. for the job at the same time? Seriously... think about it... I can only hope the new premium USA ratchets are a sign of a positive change to come... but if they don't make them widely available and market them as top quality USA made products they won't be successful...

With snapon shifting much of its production to china, this could be sears chance to attract a following, should they be able to offer a top quality USA made line at a fraction of the cost, with a lifetime warranty
 
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I want to like Sears, my father worked there for 20 years after WWII and he bought so much Sears stuff. But they really need to refresh their management.

I visit a lot of online vendors, and Sears website is the only one I have a problem using. For the past week I am unable to sign in to sears.com, they must have changed something. They need to fire their current website designer and hire a new one.
 

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I've been back and forth with them all day.As soon as mu package arrives back they said they would send out my ratchets. I didn't accept the first package but they still have to have the old one. Been one hectic day

question, does the actual packing slip reflect Premium Grade ratchets or did that magically adjust to thin profile as well?

my suggestion to you would be to simply get a straight refund and order them again through your local store.
 
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The website has sucked forever; I don't see this getting any better, either! :( Its pretty embarrassing; trying to help a customer order something at a kiosk, you work @ Sears and can't even get your own companies website to work! LOL! Believe me; many times we just called the order "hotline" instead; was easier faster and more reliable..... THEN, you get someone on their who you couldn't understand... english? The brain damage is everywhere you turn @ Sears... Bleah! :(
 
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