Pittsburgh 1/2 Drive Pro Stress Test

[Ruger_556]

Where's the guy on this message board that told me " you just don't get it " , when I had mentioned in my own thread how I'd love to see a stress test comparison between these ratchets and a snap on equivalent. Please remind me how a $20 ratchet that stood up to that abuse isn't worth spending any money on... I believe his point was how the SO was "smoother", and therefore a quality tool better worth the investment, and testing it to its breaking point served no purpose.. It's like listening to a heroin addict trying to justify his habit.. Next they'll be saying "okay, but let's see if the action lasts 20 years too"

Alright man, this goes both ways... This "they" you speak of is you right now. If you can't take it don't dish it out...

 

[Hiball]

Where's the guy on this message board that told me " you just don't get it " , when I had mentioned in my own thread how I'd love to see a stress test comparison between these ratchets and a snap on equivalent. Please remind me how a $20 ratchet that stood up to that abuse isn't worth spending any money on... I believe his point was how the SO was "smoother", and therefore a quality tool better worth the investment, and testing it to its breaking point served no purpose.. It's like listening to a heroin addict trying to justify his habit.. Next they'll be saying "okay, but let's see if the action lasts 20 years too"

Why on earth would you allow anyone's opinion on a Internet forum determine how you spend your money? Silly... Everyone is entitled to there reasoning, there are no rules claiming someone needs to be right or wrong.

 

[Hiball]

Alright man, this goes both ways... This "they" you speak of is you right now.

Correct...

 

[kctyphoon]

Alright man, this goes both ways... This "they" you speak of is you right now. If you can't take it don't dish it out...

Well how else should you test a ratchet other than to its point of failure if your arguing quality a material as THE REASON for not buying certain brands??? Every other aspect is relative and only opinion when it comes to how "smooth" you like it, or how it's "fits?" your hand.. This is the only way to avoid opinion contaminating your findings since this is what the tools does.. I also think it's fair to say that the more torque a ratchet can withstand is a bit telling into the likely longevity of the tool. That is, unless you expect me to wait 10 more years for a result on that also..

Besides, I'm fairly confident that many buyers would be greatly disappointed if the smoothest, most expensive ratchet they owned broke just applying half their body weight.. Maybe it's me, but I would fail to see the point in spending $150 on a ratchet if you constantly felt you needed to turn to the $20 one every time you had a stubborn bolt. The test here is valid for that same reasons they crash test cars.. Nobody intends to drive their Honda into a wall, but it's nice to know I probably won't die if I did..

 

[Bigblue&Goldie]

Where's the guy on this message board that told me " you just don't get it " , when I had mentioned in my own thread how I'd love to see a stress test comparison between these ratchets and a snap on equivalent. Please remind me how a $20 ratchet that stood up to that abuse isn't worth spending any money on... I believe his point was how the SO was "smoother", and therefore a quality tool better worth the investment, and testing it to its breaking point served no purpose.. It's like listening to a heroin addict trying to justify his habit.. Next they'll be saying "okay, but let's see if the action lasts 20 years too"

I'll be the second guy to say "You just don't get it". It might not make sense to you to buy a Snap On, but it doesn't make sense to a lot of people to spend $20 on a HF tool.

These new ratchets are a great deal for many people, but they simply aren't a Snap On. The action might be strong, but it definitely isn't as smooth, the selector *****, the heads are floppy, the grips are retarded big, and they are a disposable item as soon as HF stops selling them.

Opinions are like assholes.......everyone has one and they all stink.

 

[kctyphoon]

Why on earth would you allow anyone's opinion on a Internet forum determine how you spend your money? Silly....

Sorry but did you NOT come here to watch a video and gain some impression over the result???????? Or did you NOT notice how many people wrote how they now planned on going out to buy some after seeing that test?

The entire point of these online forums is to share information and gain knowledge to help better make your own choices...

 

[Hiball]

Sorry but did you NOT come here to watch a video and gain some impression over the result???????? Or did you NOT notice how many people wrote how they now planned on going out to buy some after seeing that test?

The entire point of these online forums is to share information and gain knowledge to help better make your own choices...

What does any of that have to do with crying about someone else's opinion? Please explain?

 

[kctyphoon]

I'll be the second guy to say "You just don't get it". It might not make sense to you to buy a Snap On, but it doesn't make sense to a lot of people to spend $20 on a HF tool.

These new ratchets are a great deal for many people, but they simply aren't a Snap On. The action might be strong, but it definitely isn't as smooth, the selector *****, the heads are floppy, the grips are retarded big, and they are a disposable item as soon as HF stops selling them.

Opinions are like assholes.......everyone has one and they all stink.

I bet he has track lines in his arms.....

 

[Toyota mechanic]

This is becoming the 'Why Buy Snap-on' thread all over again...

Snap-on has such a great warranty you all say.

Do a follow up video, or just shut up already!

Snap-on is fine, but I swear!..... Some of you have a Snap-on sickness of some sort.

 

[Hiball]

I bet he has track lines in his arms.....

And Now you have stepped outside of that "Discussion" theory you presented earlier.

Congrats..

 

[Hiball]

This is becoming the 'Why Buy Snap-on' thread all over again...

Snap-on has such a great warranty you all say.

Do a follow up video, or just shut up already!

Snap-on is fine, but I swear!..... Some of you have a Snap-on sickness of some sort.

If your actually being Fair, it's just as much "Why buy anything but HF", you might not admit it, but it's in black and white.

So many good brands.. Why limit yourself?

 

[kctyphoon]

What does any of that have to do with crying about someone else's opinion? Please explain?

The opinion was that the amount of torque a $20 ratchet vs a $150 ratchet could withstand before failure had no bearing on what constitutes a good investment for PEOPLE. ( not just professional mechanics) Please explain the reason you require an in depth explanation on that before you ask me to explain it again..

It's a ratchet, not the space shuttle.. WHAT ELSE is it designed to do other than turn bolts?

 

[Hiball]

The opinion was that the amount of torque a $20 ratchet vs a $150 ratchet could withstand before failure had no bearing on what constitutes a good investment for PEOPLE. ( not just professional mechanics) Please explain the reason you require an in depth explanation on that before you ask me to explain it again..

I'm not the one trying to convince everyone reding this thread one brand is better than another? You should probably go back and reread some of your posts... You seem confused.

 

[Toyota mechanic]

If your actually being Fair, it's just as much "Why buy anything but HF", you might not admit it, but it's in black and white.

So many good brands.. Why limit yourself?

I don't, I actually do not buy much for HF tools. I buy tarps, rags, face shields, odds and ends, at HF, and occasionally a tool that looks good and useful.

I enjoy write ups on all tools.

 

[Toyota mechanic]

This was a great thread, someone finally did a video! Great thread...

He will do a Snappy next... lol.. I bet............................

The Snap-on ratchet will put on a show too! Oh my!

Tired of all the Snap-on, HF, whatever....

I like Craftsman USA stuff, Proto, and GearWrench... as much as anyone says it *****... I do care, but this whole forum is brutal, with all the crying, and moaning... lol


Nice thread to the OP, action not words....

 

[Hiball]

I don't, I actually do not buy much for HF tools. I buy tarps, rags, face shields, odds and ends, at HF, and occasionally a tool that looks good and useful.

I enjoy write ups on all tools.

As do I.. And I wasn't trying to critise your tool choices, they have no bearing on me regardless of brand.

 

[kctyphoon]

I'm not the one trying to convince everyone reding this thread one brand is better than another? You should probably go back and reread some of your posts... You seem confused.

No guy - YOU SEEM CONFUSED.. I never once said, claimed, or implied that any HF tool was a better tool than a SO.. If you read my other threads and posts, I actually state how I believe there is a place for tools of their cost and engineering level in some places, - I just personally don't think their place is in the hands of students or $20hr, work for someone else mechanics..

I did however, say HF ratchets are a better BUY if the thing can withstand similar torque for far less money, since I really don't care what color the grip is, or mind having to withstand the enormous inconvenience of removing 3 screws to apply some lube to obtain something comparable to a $150 tool. Please don't put words in my mouth.

 

[Hiball]

No guy - YOU SEEM CONFUSED.. I never once said, claimed, or implied that any HF tool was a better tool than a SO.. If you read my other threads and posts, I actually state how I believe there is a place for tools of their cost and engineering level in some places, - I just personally don't think their place is in the hands of students or $20hr, work for someone else mechanics..

I did however, say HF ratchets are a better BUY if the thing can withstand similar torque for far less money, since I really don't care what color the grip is, or mind having to withstand the enormous inconvenience of removing 3 screws to apply some lube to obtain something comparable to a $150 tool. Please don't put words in my mouth.

Words in your mouth... ? Your right, you havent attempted to **** on anyone who buys Snap on by insinuating they are drug addicts and such. I'll ignore the language in between the lines and move on, the OP deserves better than this after taking time out if day to bring something to the forum.

In the time I've been here, I've yet to see a trophy presentation.. Keep trying guys, I'm sure your getting close.

 

[kctyphoon]

Words in your mouth... ? Your right, you havent attempted to **** on anyone who buys Snap on by insinuating they are drug addicts and such. I'll ignore the language in between the lines and move on, the OP deserves better than this after taking time out if day to bring something to the forum.

In the time I've been here, I've yet to see a trophy presentation.. Keep trying guys, I'm sure your getting close.

ROTFLMFAO

 

[Bigblue&Goldie]

I bet he has track lines in his arms.....

Funny thing is I've been on a Snap On truck exactly 1 time...........and bought nothing.

 

[kctyphoon]

Funny thing is I've been on a Snap On truck exactly 1 time...........and bought nothing.

I honestly can't walk out of a store without buying SOMETHING... So I commend you on that one..

 

[ATC]

Ok kctyphoon...tap me in, I got this!

lmao

Someone send the OP a Snap-On equivalent...I got $5 towards it!

 

[nicksnothereman]

Thanks for posting. I'm glad to see China taking a run at the higher level tools through mainstream distribution. Someone has to motivate SK and Snap On aND the others to raise the bar.

That must have been 500 ft lb. Man...

I think the chinese craftsman 1/2" tested that high (actually higher than that in the 600s as I recall). One piece though. (from my memory; the US made was in the 700s or higher). I'm sure the taiwanese stuff is at least as high as the chinese ratchets. This was from some half-assed test though that used vintage US stuff too.

For a flex this was more than respectable performance but I think the weak point would be the socket not the ratchet itself (at least for a non-flex). Even if you get that level of torque on a ratchet it doesn't mean the socket can take it. My assumption though.

No one really wants to have a real test; I'm not sure what they're afraid of...at least as far as the 2nd tier US mfgs and the lower tier mfgs. I know what snap on and mac/proto (stanley) are afraid of the "not better enough to justify the cost". Must be a gentleman's agreement not to do it because day to day torque tolerance shouldn't really matter if it's beyond someone's ability to get that torque/need it to remove a fastener; if they're using an adequate drive size.