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Guys Im making a wood fired pizza oven for my dad for christmas. I need ideas for what material to make the "floor" out of. The dome is welded up 18 ga. steel. It will be raised up a little higher than waist height on an angle iron frame.

Im thinking some sort of stone, MAYBE tile? It needs to withstand very high heat. Hopefully 700-1000 range.
 
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By the way it'll need to be somewhat portable, i'll be delivering it in my pickup and he rents his house so no permanent brick structures were going to be used
 
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I was planning on making a metal frame of angle iron and a metal grate to support the bricks, probably out of 1/4" rod.

That will be raised on angle iron legs and placed over a brick patio.
 

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Not sure where you are located but if you are near a metro area check commercial restaurant equipment re-seller or repair place.

Regular pizza ovens have replaceable stones if one cracks they are replaced and the old ones thrown away. I have also seen ovens that are too costly to repair get scrapped and the stones are sold.
 
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I havent taken a recent measurement but originally it was about 36 inches in diameter and 20 tall. That's likely changed as the metal sheets moved as I bent them and welded.
 

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I second firebrick, this is exactly what they're for. Great for high temps, don't break, and will help keep your temperatures more constant due to the thermal mass.


Just **** them up against each other tight starting in the center, and cut the ones around the edges to size as best as you can. No mortar necessary for the bottom of your oven.


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I agree with the firebrick. Do you want a metal floor under the firebrick? That's how woodstoves are built. You just insert the bricks through the door.
 
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Thanks for the input guys.

Here she is so far, in her ugly glory:
 

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Are you going to coat the metal with anything? The problem is the metal won't hold the heat in like a true pizza oven
 

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Terracotta tiles... you can put them in or remove/replace them easily, works great for the kitchen oven too, you just lay them on the grate and slide the pizza off the peel on it...
Pre-heat...
 
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The metal will be painted with high temp paint

Luckily the oven is large enough to have a large wood fire - and I could move the coals around the perimeter - hopefully to maximize the heat.
 

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The metal will be painted with high temp paint

Luckily the oven is large enough to have a large wood fire - and I could move the coals around the perimeter - hopefully to maximize the heat.

Have you watched some of the youtube videos on diy ovens? Covering it with some insulation will help keep heat in, also the chimney has some specific criteria to make it work correctly.
 

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Guys Im making a wood fired pizza oven for my dad for christmas. I need ideas for what material to make the "floor" out of. The dome is welded up 18 ga. steel. It will be raised up a little higher than waist height on an angle iron frame.

Im thinking some sort of stone, MAYBE tile? It needs to withstand very high heat. Hopefully 700-1000 range.

I know a guy that built his pizza oven out of red clay and wheat straw. For the floor he used part of a free slate pool table top. He used wet sand piled up into the shape he wanted, covered the sand with wet newspaper, then added the clay/straw on top. He mulched the straw with his mower and bagger and mixed the clay up with it in a cement mixer. After it dried for about a week or so, he dug the sand out through the door he made and fired the oven to finish curing it. When it gets a crack, he just smears some clay over the crack.
 

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Good idea, but finding food grade stainless plate the size of a pizza oven may be a challenge.

Who said anything about stainless? The "baking steel" is just shot blasted A36 steel (like a restaurant griddle), that is oil seasoned just like a cast iron pot.
You just need something thick enough that it won't warp in the heat (say 1/4").

Speaking of cast iron, that's what I actually use in my oven. I used to use a cheap pizza stone, but after breaking two (and being annoyed by the round stone in a rectangular oven), I went in search of something better. I had actually considered slate, since I got a scrap pool table years ago and used the biggest piece to make my kitchen table, but I was afraid of it flaking in the heat (same with granite, and soapstone is too expensive).

Anyway, after looking at fibrament (the best stone solution I could find), I started to read up on the metal option. Pound for pound, cast iron holds twice as much heat as stone (higher specific heat), AND it conducts that heat much faster into what you're baking. Win/win.
Then I happened upon a large (almost 150lbs) slab of cast iron that used to be a restaurant griddle (in awful condition) for $30. The depth was the exact width of my oven rack. It was meant to be. I plasma cut off a 40lb oven rack sized piece from the end without the drain, cleaned it up (there was much grinding and acid soaking), seasoned it in my grill, and now it lives permanently in my upper oven. Yeah, it takes almost an extra half hour to properly pre-heat my upper oven now, but it's worth it.
The bigger remaining piece became a fireback for my fireplace.
 

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if you want a somewhat decent and usable oven metal won't work. The whole point of the pizza oven is to have something that will soak in the heat and hold it for longer periods. So with that said I would recommend you get some castable refractory cement and make the oven out of it. you can probably get away with 1-1.5 inches wall thickness. There are few methods on how you can make a mold to cast the cement. for the floor you would use medium density firebrick. Also you would needs some ceramic fiber board under the cooking floor and ceramic fiber blanket over the oven to insulate the oven so the heat doesn't escape.
There are some homemade recipes using vermiculite but ceramic fiber insulation is far better.
Even with the refractory cement you can still have a portable oven on a stand with some casters.
 

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Way too far into this to change materials guys. I know stone is superior but im not going to build that and transport it to his house 180 miles away.

I'll get creative and make it work. I'll post the results after its been used.
 

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I know a guy that built his pizza oven out of red clay and wheat straw. For the floor he used part of a free slate pool table top. He used wet sand piled up into the shape he wanted, covered the sand with wet newspaper, then added the clay/straw on top. He mulched the straw with his mower and bagger and mixed the clay up with it in a cement mixer. After it dried for about a week or so, he dug the sand out through the door he made and fired the oven to finish curing it. When it gets a crack, he just smears some clay over the crack.

I'd like to see a video on how to do this.
 
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Fender1325

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Just wanted to say the pizza oven was a great success. Metal does work! That sucker got HOT.

Critical to have DRY DRY DRY wood.
 
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