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Above 1200 Sq/FT Planning a 40x60 build, question about 2 post lift location.

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1320stang

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So I think I'll be able to go forward with the 40x60 build this year. I'm only on 1.5 acres and have roads on 3 sides so there are easements involved, to further complicate things, my house is pretty much built in the center of the remaining lot. I'm in the county so I don't have building permits or inspections, but I will be following building codes.

I'm planning on using a bolt up kit with bents. It'll come with an engineer's seal which makes the bank happy. I have a structural engineer we work with for the slab and footings (I work for a mech/elec engineer).

I'd show a sketch but I'm posting this from my phone. Picture the 40x60 divided into 3rds each way, the 40' would be 13.33' bays and the 60' would be 20' bays. Lets say 13'x20' for simplicity. The building runs north/south and we'll give each bay a letter or number. Across the north end A is the NW bay, B middle and C is the NE bay, from north to south we'll go 1,2,3 with A1 being the NW bay and C3 being the SE bay.

The location is such that the main door will need to be on the north wall centered on A1. Because its a bolt up kit and I want a 12x12 door, I imagine the walls will have to be 14' tall. There will be a man door on the west wall of A1 and the electrical panel will be right there as well.

The whole west wall with have a lean-to down the length of it, 10'-12' deep that faces the backyard, A3 will probably have an 8x8 door on the west wall for some airflow and access to the backyard.

I think I want to reserve bay C1 for office space with some storage above. I plan on putting an above ground storm shelter in the office and it may not be office so much as it is a clean space.

My only other thought is that the whole 60' length of A be open, shelves along the west wall are okay, but the ability to put trailers inside along this wall is desired.

I already have a Rotary 9k asymmetrical 2 post lift but I'm not sure where to locate it. My initial thought was bay B1 between the 12x12 door and office, back into the building and pull forward to the lift, this means keeping B2 clear, an option would be to angle the lift towards the office, so B2 doesn't have to be as clear. (I think this may be the best.)

C2 is an option, just south of the office, pointing east, C3 is also an option, pointed into the SE corner, but thats a lot of floor space to keep open. And I guess A3 is an option, straight south of the 12x12 door with a cross breeze from the 8x8 door.

In the future I'd be able to add a 20x40 north of the building running north/south with the east walls lining up.
 
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How often will you use the lift? Are the projects cars going to live in the lean to? Whats a f100 LWD? lowered?

Unless a project is upon a trailer, I wouldnt worry about having a trailer in the shop.

exciting possibilities
 
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1320stang

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LWB = Long Wheel Base, dunno about LWD, LOL.

The lean-to is more of a porch that looked out over the backyard, Hoping for a pool out there one day so it just made it look nicer plus it shaded that west wall. Plus it cuts down on the height of a 12'-14' side wall on the building. The area out in front of the shop is my "junk yard", all privacy fence across the drive by the house garage back to the corner of the shop, then from the corner of the shop to the bqck porch. It'll be an area I can grind, cut, pressure wash, if I leave something out, so be it. If I had a racecar, or showcar, or something on or in a trailer, I wanted to be able to put it inside, not that it would live there, but if I chose to, it could.

The lift should be used pretty often, oil changes and tire rotations for 3-4 cars, but that's about as often as the big door will typically open. The shop is for long term projects, be it automotive, woodworking, fiberglassing, whatever.

I've, in fact, moved on from this plan (for now). I just counted different interations of this shop, that one is version #49, I'm now on #51, a 30x50 rotated 90*, no porch, peak runs east/west, four 12'-6" bays, the two bays closest to the house get 10x12 doors. The room on the back of the house (I added on) is 16x16 with an 8' deep porch on the west and south sides. The NW corner of the 30x50 moves halfway down that wall to the north, leaving 8' to the added on room and 8' from the back of the garage nook. I'll put a free-standing 24x8 patio cover to fill the gap between the buildings, a privacy fence from the corner of the added on room east to the shop, the man door into the shop will be straight east off that porch. From the south edge of the back porch, wrapping around that corner and then 25' wide from the shop to the driveway is 17 yards of concrete. I'll have room in the future to add a 24'x38' building 4' north of the shop all the way up to even with the front of the house, this building would be shorter with three 10x8 roll up doors.

I'm trying to work towards working from home if I get a chance to retire from working for "the man". Not including this shop, I'm 30 months away from being debt free and 58 years old at that time, I'll likely go to 72 unless I can afford to quit earlier.
 
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1320stang

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I finally fixed the D.

The dashed line around the lift is the recommended clearance, the smaller box around the posts is the size of the thickened slab if you have to cut and pour into an existing slab.

I'll post up a revised plan in a bit.
 
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