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Plastic electrical box?

rodm1

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Every time I use a plastic box (carlon super blue) I seem to brake the wire locking tabs of. Is this a code violation? I do staple with in 8 inches but it bugs me.

I think Arlington makes them with hold downs but haven't seen any for sometime.
 
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forced induction

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Are you allowed to drill holes in these super blues and use regular cable clamps?? I don't like those plastic retainers either.
 

Alchymist

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I don't even like the plastic boxes. Just think what might happen with a loose connection that starts to arc. Which box would you prefer when things start to heat up. And if a wire should come loose, the box is grounded.....
 

Norcal

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Are you allowed to drill holes in these super blues and use regular cable clamps?? I don't like those plastic retainers either.

No, find another brand besides Carlon, better yet use 4 square boxes raised rings 1/8" deeper then the material covering the stud, namely 5/8" for 1/2" drywall or 3/4" with 5/8" drywall, that way the ring is flush w/ the finished surface to give a SOLID mounting for receptacles or other devices, nothing worse then floating receptacles that shatter the plate when plugging something in because some stupid, lazy MoFo could not mount boxes correctly.

Going back to drilling boxes to use metal connectors, years ago used to work on some office buildings that were built in 1979, they roughed in the lighting circuits into 1 & 2 gang NM boxes in the ceiling after the gridwork for the suspended ceiling was installed, they used a 7/8" hole saw into the boxes to run 1/2 steel flex to the 2X4 recessed troffers, because at the time NM cable only had 60 degree C conductors & 90 C is required into them (codes no longer allow NM above a non residential suspended ceiling) but they neglected to pull a grounding conductor in the flex, meaning anytime some poor fool like me would touch the gridwork & a gas line they would get bit, the NM boxes were not made or listed for steel connectors & it is a big red flag that there is hackwork when one sees that....
 
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FlyBy

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I just redid the garage in a house I was living in temporarily (grandparents old house, was renovating). I always broke off the tabs, too damn annoying, but I made sure to secure the wires at the correct length to the studs.
 

Norcal

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The only boxes allowed to not have means to secure the cables where they enter is single gang non metallic ones, all others do.....................
 
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rodm1

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Thanks guys, Most of the time you have to deal with the junk that the home centers sells you. They had no steel boxes that would work.

The box is easy to move and I forgot about the air line drop its probable going to go wright where the box is. At least I have time to find a steel box.
 
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