Please educate me, bench grinder wheel mounting

[badgcoupe]

So I know this isn't right so I'm turning to the pros.

Attached is how I have it in there right now. I ended using a bunch of washers to get it tight, without them I can't tighten the wire wheel in without running out of threads.




So what am I missing? A bushing of some sort correct? Where would I find some? I tried to do my homework but easily because overwhelmed with all the options.

Thanks all!

 

[930dreamer]

Most have a plastic bushing that goes on the shaft, then the wheel. Do you have a "cup" type spacer that rests against the wheel?

 

[Kaervak]

Yeah, you're missing the arbor collars. Should be able to get a set from Sears as I don't think they change all that much between the years.

 

[RCStocker]

When you change wheels save your old ones. Most wheels come with different inserts or are made for the shaft. I have a **** load but I am not sure where to locate them. I think they are on the frarm in Indiana or I would send them to you. I have never seen them at HF I don't thinks Sears has them. Try ENCO.COM

 

[TwoInch]

you are missing the large hard plastic/rubber cups, one goes on each side of the wheel. they sandwich the wheels and stabilize, and also take up all that extra thread.

i wouldnt run it the way you have it set up.

 

[TwoInch]

here, they will be similar to this.

http://www.delviesplastics.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/BaldorBuffer.jpg

mine are black, but they are silver in this picture, on a buffer. there is no wheel in the picture.

 

[badgcoupe]

So I'm definitely missing the cup like bushings. I picked up an old USA made Dayton as well and it has these cup style bushings but they look fabricated in a shop, not mass produced. I assumed the machine shop made them for it as that is where I picked it up. So I guess the search now begins to find some that will fit this grinder. Thanks for the responses all, if anyone knows where I can find some please let me know.

Thank you!

** EDIT **
Technically I'm not looking for bushing though right, they are more of a washer?

 

[Jim Johnstone]

So I'm definitely missing the cup like bushings. I picked up an old USA made Dayton as well and it has these cup style bushings but they look fabricated in a shop, not mass produced. I assumed the machine shop made them for it as that is where I picked it up. So I guess the search now begins to find some that will fit this grinder. Thanks for the responses all, if anyone knows where I can find some please let me know.

Thank you!

Perhaps someone on here could fabricate a set for you. If I had my machine shop setup and running in my garage, I would be happy to help.

 

[TwoInch]

the bushing goes on the shaft, between the wheel and the arbor to take up the slack and make a tight fit. the cups go on the sides, to stabilize the wheels, and give them a good bite. they shouldnt be to hard to source. ill look online and see what i can find. they should be pretty universal i would imagine

 

[JASTECH]

Some wire wheels come with a set, mine did and the brand is "Weiler".

 

[TwoInch]

i also think my weiler buffing wheels came with them also, but not totally positive

 

[Outlawmws]

First off, you are better off not going to the stops on the shaft for the inside wire wheel posiiton. Get another nut the right size/tread (one side is right hand thread and the other is left...)

Use a nut (a Jam nut is sufficient) as the first thing on the shaft, next one of the stepped washers, to both take some space, and they flex a bit so it keeps tension on the nuts so they are less likely to loosen.

Bushings center the wire wheel on the shaft so it stays concentric. use one wide enough that it won't go off to the side but will allow the stepped washers to clamp on the wheel and not on the bushing.

I like to adjust so the wheel is close to the outside edge so I can take the outer cover off if i need to get in tight, (sometimes I'll run san's guard, to this purpose, YMMV...)

Another stepped washer, another nut, tighten securely, and Bob's your Uncle.

 

[Outlawmws]

Finally got my camera to co-operate w/ the Ltop...

Pic of bushings (red) and the stepped washers of various sizes and types.

Bushings come in sets so you can slide them apart to get different sizes or use them together to go from a small shaft to a large hole. The also come in different lengths. if your wheel is narrow you need a fairly narrow bushing but not so narrow that it can creep to the side inside one of the stepped washers, and "drop" the wheel.

ps: You should be able to get these at any decent hardware store. OSH used to be decent, but they have gone WAY downhill for stuff like this. Try a larger ACE?

 

[woody 73]

Never and I repeat never drill out a center to enlarge a hole,(on any wheels)
trust me on that one unless you have a mill with some kind of runout. Because I made that mistake on a very expensive wire wheel it now shakes like a tornado on steroids.

I am using spacers like the op because I paid so much for the wheel I don't want to throw it away. I will never do that mistake ever again!

 

[Major Ramifications]

Sears used to carry a wire wheel mounting kit, I assume that they still do.

 

[badgcoupe]

Awesome, thank you so much. A picture is worth 1000 words! I haven't seen them at my local Sears but now I know what to look for, thanks again!