Plomb tool picture thread - show your stuff!

[Provincial]

The NAF specification probably required greater strength. One quick and easy way would be to use a larger blank (like the next size up) and only cut the smaller openings.
The N series of P&C DBE wrenches are short and stout compared to the commercial equivalents. I suspect the Navy was expecting wrenches to be abused.

 

[r_olson_06]

The NAF specification probably required greater strength. One quick and easy way would be to use a larger blank (like the next size up) and only cut the smaller openings.
The N series of P&C DBE wrenches are short and stout compared to the commercial equivalents. I suspect the Navy was expecting wrenches to be abused.

Makes sense.

 

[r_olson_06]

Contribution to the thread.
A mixed 3/8" Socket set 95% LA including some early 6 & 8 points and the early socket box.
This also has my earliest 3/8" socket showing a 1931 date code just after the Letter/Number to all Number MPN change.

 

[r_olson_06]

A few additions. A 1/2" ratchet with the large forge logo rounding out the triplicate WF series.


Also picked up a WF-136 to add to the rare deep WF sockets. Here is a family shot the 1/2" along with 2 other military contact sockets.

 

[d42jeep]

Here is what’s left of an early round nose chisel. Over the years it has been made to be much shorter than it started out.
-Don
As found ground to a point.
Today
Catalog image.
-Don

 

[r_olson_06]

Here is what’s left of an early round nose chisel. Over the years it has been made to be much shorter than it started out.
-Don
As found ground to a point.
Today
Catalog image.
-Don

Not a common one.

 

[Mark914]

Found in Dads stuff. Brake adjusting tool or a pry bar? I’m guessing it’s from the 1930’s Los Angeles period ? I’m surprised it’s in such good shape

 

[Outlawmws]

brake adjuster.

 

[d42jeep]

Yours is a 1938 brake spoon. Mine is a little later.
Before.
After.
-Don

 

[z28lsc]

I Scored these on ebay recently. I didn't know they made these bent nose pliers. Plomb No. 203

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Plomb No. 203

Besides being a cool uncommon tool to own, it's also a key knowledge base tool.

With the PLVMB marking, the MFD. marking and the herringbone pattern grip, it could only have been made in the former J.P. Danielson factory from November 1946, after the Plomb Tool Co purchase, through December 1948, before Plomb embarked on the doomed Dual-Marked debacle in January 1949, and certainly no later than March 1950, when all traces of their company name were removed from the tools.

That jibes perfectly, and vice versa, with the series of wartime and immediate postwar catalogs and my dating analysis of them...

The No. 203 bent nose pliers first appear on page 62 of Catalog 19-R THIRD PRINTING, which also features (also for the first time) a J.P. Danielson adjustable wrench (instead of a Utica). I date this catalog to NET 10/1946 to NLT 3/1948. Note that it does not appear in any catalogs prior to that. It appears again on page 62 of Catalog 19-R FOURTH PRINTING, and then on page 35 of the first Plomb Tool Co. catalog to feature Proto branding, Catalog No. 4820.

You can see a handy chart and my rationale in a post in the Plomb Lawsuit thread linked here.

On a side-note, I have always admired the pliers in this era. I have had a few and although they were not as vivid in survival as their depiction in the catalogs, they are handsome tools, sporting a two-tone finish, with the head being "polished" and the handles being much darker, almost black, what Plomb called "gun metal" (assuming Parkerized or Sheradized), with a stark diagonal dividing line around the pivot area.

 

[d42jeep]

That is good dating information. Here are a couple more pairs of Plomb marked slip joint pliers with the Danielson handle pattern. Plomb 276 (6”) and 278 (8”).
-Don

 

[Beerhippie]

Here's a pair of thin-nose slop joints labeled only J.P. Danielson Co, Inc:

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Also a pretty tight production period, from 1942, when J.P. Danielson switched to the herringbone grip, to 10/1947, when Plomb bought them out. Wartime JPD tools are popular with WWII collectors. You can find other examples on the JPD thread.

 

[Beerhippie]

Also a pretty tight production period, from 1942, when J.P. Danielson switched to the herringbone grip, to 10/1947, when Plomb bought them out. Wartime JPD tools are popular with WWII collectors. You can find other examples on the JPD thread.

Thanks!

 

[z28lsc]

Besides being a cool uncommon tool to own, it's also a key knowledge base tool.

With the PLVMB marking, the MFD. marking and the herringbone pattern grip, it could only have been made in the former J.P. Danielson factory from November 1946, after the Plomb Tool Co purchase, through December 1948, before Plomb embarked on the doomed Dual-Marked debacle in January 1949, and certainly no later than March 1950, when all traces of their company name were removed from the tools.

That jibes perfectly, and vice versa, with the series of wartime and immediate postwar catalogs and my dating analysis of them...

The No. 203 bent nose pliers first appear on page 62 of Catalog 19-R THIRD PRINTING,

Thank you for the info.

 

[four.cycle]

fascinating.
that pair of 203's @z28lsc posted are pretty snazzy. wasn't aware Danielson even made pliers!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

...wasn't aware Danielson even made pliers!

 

[four.cycle]

I had no idea. Only Danielson I know of is adjustables and those "kit" wrenches.

 

[d42jeep]

A few more that I’ve been meaning to post.
-Don
41-B-309 D-I unmarked 1/2” drive 3211 extension cad plated


41-P-1652 Danielson 8” Pliers
41-W-3009 New Britain 9/16“ 1/2” drive socket


41-H-1509 Handle ¼” Drive Spinner Insulated – S-K 40954
41-S-1638 Phillips Screwdriver #2 - Plomb 9784

fascinating.
that pair of 203's @z28lsc posted are pretty snazzy. wasn't aware Danielson even made pliers!

More Danielson plier pictures.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I had no idea. Only Danielson I know of is adjustables and those "kit" wrenches.

We have a J.P. Danielson thread. See the Index!

 

[Outlawmws]

I have 4 slip joints, a lineman's and a pair of dykes, branded J.P Danielson...

 

[d42jeep]

This 3030 DOE wrench arrived yesterday that I was missing from my collection.
-Don

 

[r_olson_06]

This 3030 DOE wrench arrived yesterday that I was missing from my collection.
-Don

Nice Don,
Which ones are you still missing yet?

 

[Outlawmws]

Picked up these Plomb, (round "O") LA slip joint water pump pliers. The bad news is they lost the jamb nut, and some wonk PO slag welded the bolt threads to "make" a nut...

 

[d42jeep]

I’ll bet that you could just drill out through the weld and replace the bolt. It doesn’t look all that special on my pair. A donor shouldn’t be that hard to find.
-Don

 

[d42jeep]

Nice Don,
Which ones are you still missing yet?

Here are the ones I have.
-Don




The green are in my GMTK.
The GMTK could use these two found in the UK but they seem to be unicorns in the US. Possibly special made for Lend-Lease.

 

[Outlawmws]

I’ll bet that you could just drill out through the weld and replace the bolt. It doesn’t look all that special on my pair. A donor shouldn’t be that hard to find.

Vaguely in the plan; finding a suitable bolt is step one though.

Interesting that yours and mine have the head on opposite sides...

 

[RubiconJK]

Here are the ones I have.
-Don

Don,
Would this one be of any interest to you? I don't collect DOE's so you would be welcome to it.

 

[d42jeep]

I would be happy to take that one off your hands.
-Don

 

[RubiconJK]

I would be happy to take that one off your hands.
-Don

Its yours. I sent you a PM to confirm I still have the right address.

 

[RStewart]

Got my hands dirty at Habitat today. All I had to see was Los Angeles on these two sockets. Never saw weatherhead sockets before. All important PLOMB is there. The Proto was a buck and the Snap On came in a nice little metal box with no name sockets 1/4”-7/16”. There is a logo on the sockets, NB in a circle.

 

[r_olson_06]

Got my hands dirty at Habitat today. All I had to see was Los Angeles on these two sockets. Never saw weatherhead sockets before. All important PLOMB is there. The Proto was a buck and the Snap On came in a nice little metal box with no name sockets 1/4”-7/16”. There is a logo on the sockets, NB in a circle.

Nice score. Those weather heads are hard to come by. The NB circle sockets are "None Better"

 

[RStewart]

Thank you. It’s a neat little set

 

[RStewart]

Here’s a picture

 

[four.cycle]

^ very nice N/B set there.

 

[Provincial]

A few more Plomb items wandered in recently.

USA items:
1240 combo 1-1/4
1140 DBE (grind-off) 13/16 x 7/8
1228 combo 7/8
1220 combo 5/8
8161 DBE 1/2 x 9/16
5343 1/2 dr. 12-pt. deep 5/8

LA 1145 DBE 7/8 x 1"

A. Plomb items:
16" line-up bar
DBE 3/8 x 7/16

 

[r_olson_06]

A few more Plomb items wandered in recently.

USA items:
1240 combo 1-1/4
1140 DBE (grind-off) 13/16 x 7/8
1228 combo 7/8
1220 combo 5/8
8161 DBE 1/2 x 9/16
5343 1/2 dr. 12-pt. deep 5/8

LA 1145 DBE 7/8 x 1"

A. Plomb items:
16" line-up bar
combo 3/8

Nice line up bar. I didn't know that A Plomb made those.

 

[ecotec]

This was some of the stuff that I got at an estate sale yesterday.

I pass up Plomb tools all the time, but this was the first 1/4” Plomb that I have ever found. Honestly, I usually ignore Plomb. Common Plomb (like the Plomb equivalent of the F 6 E Snap-on) can be found pretty regularly in the 1954 Cosmoline.

The 1/4”x14” extension is finished much nicer than the usual Plomb I find.

 

[Outlawmws]

I usually ignore Plomb. Common Plomb (like the Plomb equivalent of the F 6 E Snap-on) can be found pretty regularly in the 1954 Cosmoline.

Where do you live that Plvmb is this common?