Plomb tool picture thread - show your stuff!

[Capt. Spaulding]

The only Plumb I picked up this week.




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[Private Lugnutz]

...one of mine came with a 3/4" plug that fits the 1" head.

If you mean you have a 3/4-inch drive plug (with a 5652 part number) that fits in the head of a 1-inch drive ratchet head (with a 5849 part number), that's wild! I would love to see a pic.

 

[Outlawmws]

Prov, are you sure? I didn't realize my first one was removable til I "broke" it one day! The plug head is recessed so it's not obvious.

Lugz I'l drag them out a little later today for a "family" portrait.

 

[Provincial]

I looked closely at the 3/4 Proto and see no parting line for a drive plug. They ust have started making the square drive integral with the gear sometime in the 1950's. The parting line is fine, but visible on my wartime pebble plumb 3/4" ratchet.

 

[r_olson_06]

Boards are up! Have the 1/2" drive filled as much as possible but missing 2 and 2 are a stand in.
Looking for an
1-1/8" standard with standard bands
5352 1-1/16" deep with cross bar hole
5475 1/2" swivel socket (have the LA looking for the non LA)
5476 9/16" swivel socket


Any help you be appreciated. Have PLENTY of trade bait.



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[JoCoSawdust]

Looks good! How many hours have you logged just standing there staring at them and taking it in?

 

[r_olson_06]

Looks good! How many hours have you logged just standing there staring at them and taking it in?

Thanks,
Not alot. I think I may have about 5-6 hours into the boards. I think I may have more time into my master catalog I am working on that is a Google sheets.

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[Oldtuleguy]

Impressive!

 

[MR.X]

Boards are up! Have the 1/2" drive filled as much as possible but missing 3 and 2 are a stand in.
Looking for an

6523 Special Socket?? I have the caddy deepwell but this must a different one.

Any help you be appreciated. Have PLENTY of trade bait.

,

You probably already know this but when you do come across that 6523 check it for cracks I'd say about 1/3 of the ones I've come across have issues.

 

[RubiconJK]

Looks great Roy. I'll look through my dups for the sockets.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

6523 Special Socket?? I have the caddy deepwell but this must a different one.

V8 Connecting Rod socket with a 6-point 9/16" service opening. It's typically a no guarantee socket due to the extra thin wall at the business end. Hence MR. X's allusion to tendency to breakage. Snap-on and a few other OEM's are marked NO GUAR. Plomb may be too. I don't know. I don't have one.

EDIT: Because it's handy, here is the one in that Speedmaster set I just picked up. Plomb's is very similar. All base, short thin stepped down nose.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Here you go, Roy. (Can you tell I got rained out with all this free time on my hands? )

 

[r_olson_06]

V8 Connecting Rod socket with a 6-point 9/16" service opening. It's typically a no guarantee socket due to the extra thin wall at the business end. Hence MR. X's allusion to tendency to breakage. Snap-on and a few other OEM's are marked NO GUAR. Plomb may be too. I don't know. I don't have one.

EDIT: Because it's handy, here is the one in that Speedmaster set I just picked up. Plomb's is very similar. All base, short thin stepped down nose.

O wait I do have that socket. 6523 check. Didn't even think about the Vrod socket.

As Mr x said eluded is cracked.

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[r_olson_06]

Well here is the conversation piece. It is a 3140S. I didn't know a 31 series even existed. It is LA dated 38. Anyone have a catalog except or could shed some light of this wrench? 3/4" USS or 1-1/4" in size. I was thinking contract but that would go against other contract tools as it still carries a standard Plomb part number.

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[Outlawmws]

That's odd, offset matching DOE is usually 33 series?

Great find and referb on the boards! now you need to completely re-think the display! (and need more boards!)

 

[r_olson_06]

That's odd, offset matching DOE is usually 33 series?

Great find and referb on the boards! now you need to completely re-think the display! (and need more boards!)

If you find any boards let me know [emoji1]. I think they are quite rare but could be wrong.

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[r_olson_06]

A couple more filled with what I have. The DOE board and the Amber screwdriver board.

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[Outlawmws]

OK a mostly complete "family pic" of the big ratchets - There is an exposed gear P&C in a box I made into a "set" for portability, (in an original 3/4 drive set box, I resurrected) that I didn't dig out as that "portable" box weighs 80 lbs and can just keep setting where it is for now...

3/4 and 1" drive Pebbles, and a 1" round handle with the 3/4 plug, in it.


The 3/4 Pebble does come out as pictured but no they are not interchangeable...

 

[MR.X]

Well here is the conversation piece. It is a 3140S. I didn't know a 31 series even existed. It is LA dated 38. Anyone have a catalog except or could shed some light of this wrench? 3/4" USS or 1-1/4" in size. I was thinking contract but that would go against other contract tools as it still carries a standard Plomb part number.

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I know it's in the 17B,.. construction something or other...that catalog has to be somewhere on line.

 

[r_olson_06]

I know it's in the 17B,.. construction something or other...that catalog has to be somewhere on line.

Thanks for the heads up. I will do some digging and report back.

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[r_olson_06]

Thanks Mr. X. Attached is the "Hog Jaw" wrench offering.

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[Private Lugnutz]

3/4 and 1" drive Pebbles, and a 1" round handle with the 3/4 plug, in it.

The 3/4 Pebble does come out as pictured but no they are not interchangeable...

Thanks, Outlaw. That clears that up. I think it was probably just terminology that was causing the misunderstandings. That plug inside your 1" round handle ratchet is a 5855 1"-to-3/4" drive plug adapter, as I suspected. It's not a 3/4" plug and won't fit in a 3/4" ratchet. EDIT: Attaching a pic to help. On the left is the 1" drive plug. On the right is the 1"-to-3/4" drive adapter. The drive stud is 3/4", to turn 3/4" sockets, but it's not a 3/4" drive plug. That is what's inside your 1" ratchet, correct?

Nice ratchets!

 

[Outlawmws]

Yep!

 

[Project 2501]

Anyone familiar with these small plomb cases? I originally thought they were both 1/4" drive socket cases but quickly discovered that placing 1/4" sockets in either of those is asking for a frustrating mess. It appears that the red one is actually a 3/8" drive socket case and im thinking the green one might be for ignition wrenches..
What do you think?

 

[Project 2501]

I also found this cool engineers wrench.
Anyone know what the intended application was for this wrench?

 

[Project 2501]

And since im showing off things i might as well brag about my nearly completed 3/8" drive set. Im not exactly sure whats left to complete it but i know its not much. I know some of you purists will say it doesn't count as a vonpleted set because there are some proto tools in there and i get it... But it doesnt matter too much to me..

 

[d42jeep]

And since im showing off things i might as well brag about my nearly completed 3/8" drive set. Im not exactly sure whats left to complete it but i know its not much. I know some of you purists will say it doesn't count as a vonpleted set because there are some proto tools in there and i get it... But it doesnt matter too much to me..

Here are a few listings for 3/8” drive sets you might find interesting. The last shot is my set designed to be the 1945 5200AB set plus a few extras.
-Don

 

[d42jeep]

Anyone familiar with these small plomb cases? I originally thought they were both 1/4" drive socket cases but quickly discovered that placing 1/4" sockets in either of those is asking for a frustrating mess. It appears that the red one is actually a 3/8" drive socket case and im thinking the green one might be for ignition wrenches..
What do you think?

The 4795 boxes came in several configurations, some designed to just hold a variety of small tools while others were configured to hold 1/4” drive socket sets. I’m not familiar with your red box.
-Don

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Nice stuff. That red box is very interesting.

 

[r_olson_06]

I also found this cool engineers wrench.
Anyone know what the intended application was for this wrench?

Neat wrench. They are only in one catalog that I know of which is mid 40s. I have only 2 myself and they had a very large set up to 2-1/4" I believe. Not sure on the exact application.

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[RubiconJK]

Anyone familiar with these small plomb cases? I originally thought they were both 1/4" drive socket cases but quickly discovered that placing 1/4" sockets in either of those is asking for a frustrating mess. It appears that the red one is actually a 3/8" drive socket case and im thinking the green one might be for ignition wrenches..
What do you think?

Your red 3/8 drive box is for the 5200X Plomb "Challenger" set. It is shown in catalog 18A on page 25. Originally held the following: 5212H 3/8, 5214H 7/16, 5216H 1/2, 5218 9/16, 5220 5/8, 5222 11/16, 5224 3/4, 5265 hinge handle, 5266 pin for hinge handle, and the box was 5292.

Regarding your 1/4" set boxes, I don't recall any of the catalogs showing exclusively ignition wrenches in any of those boxes. I think Don is right that some did perhaps hold both sockets and small wrenches.

Edit: I've not found your 3514 single open end in any of the catalogs to which I have access, but AA does show one and refers to it as an Engineer's wrench. The example they show is marked 3542 and is a 1 5/16" size, so they must have had a pretty large selection of sizes since yours is a 7/16". Williams, Billings, Bonney and probably others made similar wrenches.

 

[MR.X]

And since im showing off things i might as well brag about my nearly completed 3/8" drive set. Im not exactly sure whats left to complete it but i know its not much. I know some of you purists will say it doesn't count as a vonpleted set because there are some proto tools in there and i get it... But it doesnt matter too much to me..

...so that item above the 3/8 set in the first pic...is that to discourage people from "borrowing" your tools?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

im thinking the green one might be for ignition wrenches..

I've never seen a 4795 partitioned like that. They made a 4793 (basically a smaller 4795) and a 4796 (16-1/2" long, for the speeder, and also several ignition wrenches) in the 30's, but those weren't partitioned like that either.

Im not exactly sure whats left to complete it but i know its not much.

On the contrary, you actually have more than what you need for a Cub "set". Don provided some scans of a 5200-A and -AB set. They made a number of other sets through the years, including sets with several flex sockets (5200-B in the 40's, and earlier in the late 30's, a 5200-H). Far too many different sets to list them all.

It looks to me like you are actually taking a similar approach to me, where you have a 3/8-inch drive box (5295) and you're using it to put as many 3/8-inch drive tools as you have in your collection that will reasonably fit in. See my box and my 3/8-inch drive tools collection here. The one difference is I was going for mainly WF- tools and you seem to have mainly 52xx (commercial) models.

Again, what you have in there is actually more than any of the "sets" they sold. I don't think any of the sets came with extra deep sockets, for example, or screwdriver attachments, etc. So what you really want to know is not what you need to complete a "set", but how many and which other 3/8-inch drive tools did Plomb make that you don't have.

The only things that pop out at me looking over your collection at a glance level is the 18" long extension (5263) and maybe a couple of swivel (universal) sockets.

 

[RubiconJK]

Again, what you have in there is actually more than any of the "sets" they sold. I don't think any of the sets came with extra deep sockets, for example, or screwdriver attachments, etc. So what you really want to know is not what you need to complete a "set", but how many and which other 3/8-inch drive tools did Plomb make that you don't have.

The only things that pop out at me looking over your collection at a glance level is the 18" long extension (5263) and maybe a couple of swivel (universal) sockets.

I agree for 5295 boxes. I do see 50XX deep sockets in the Tool Mobile Set 9969-4B, which is obviously a much larger set. And one (5018) included in a "Meter Man kit" 5400MM, which seems to be an odd set designation given it is a Cub set.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Agreed.

Project 2051,
Is that a 3/8-inch drive crow foot attachment I see in the socket tray? On its side? There were a mess of those. 4912 (3/8") through 4944 (1-3/8"). And they also made Phillips 5241 (No.2), 5242 (No.3), and 5244 (No.4) screwdriver attachments to go with that slotted one you have.

 

[r_olson_06]

Agreed.

Project 2051,
Is that a 3/8-inch drive crow foot attachment I see in the socket tray? On its side? There were a mess of those. 4912 (3/8") through 4944 (1-3/8"). And they also made Phillips 5241 (No.2), 5242 (No.3), and 5244 (No.4) screwdriver attachments to go with that slotted one you have.

Lugz you are correct n the crowsfoot. They seem hard find. I also haven't forgot on the leatherettes yet maybe tonight I should have some details coming your way.

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[MR.X]

And since im showing off things i might as well brag about my nearly completed 3/8" drive set. Im not exactly sure whats left to complete it but i know its not much. I know some of you purists will say it doesn't count as a vonpleted set because there are some proto tools in there and i get it... But it doesnt matter too much to me..

What is that A.Plomb over by the deep sockets?

 

[RubiconJK]

FYI, added a comment on your 3514 wrench to post #6489 above.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

What is that A.Plomb over by the deep sockets?

It sure looks like one

 

[r_olson_06]

Your red 3/8 drive box is for the 5200X Plomb "Challenger" set. It is shown in catalog 18A on page 25. Originally held the following: 5212H 3/8, 5214H 7/16, 5216H 1/2, 5218 9/16, 5220 5/8, 5222 11/16, 5224 3/4, 5265 hinge handle, 5266 pin for hinge handle, and the box was 5292.

Regarding your 1/4" set boxes, I don't recall any of the catalogs showing exclusively ignition wrenches in any of those boxes. I think Don is right that some did perhaps hold both sockets and small wrenches.

Edit: I've not found your 3514 single open end in any of the catalogs to which I have access, but AA does show one and refers to it as an Engineer's wrench. The example they show is marked 3542 and is a 1 5/16" size, so they must have had a pretty large selection of sizes since yours is a 7/16". Williams, Billings, Bonney and probably others made similar wrenches.

Don found the catalog location for me. I will see if I can find it.

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